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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: ExChairman on July 19, 2020, 01:55:14 PM

Title: Terraforming
Post by: ExChairman on July 19, 2020, 01:55:14 PM
I found this little hot Venus planet with some 55 atm...

BUT it got atmos 402 000 000 tons of all the goodies you could need...

So I sent all terraform ships, about 20 terraformers with 10 modules each and started lifting the 300 groundbased terraformers and 68000 infrastructure, almost 11 million Terrans now live in safety...
But all are assigned to Agriculture and environmental jobs, nothing ells...

How do I get people to start terraforming?
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: QuakeIV on July 19, 2020, 02:18:22 PM
You have to start messing with the environment tab and start setting how much atmospheric gases you want to add.
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: hubgbf on July 19, 2020, 02:51:18 PM
Sorry but when the environment is very difficult, no one will be able to work.
Everybody will be used to maintain life systems.

Use orbital habitat for the population if you want them to work (on terraformers or on mines)

Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: QuakeIV on July 19, 2020, 05:46:19 PM
Oh I get the question now.

Yeah this is one of the bigger reasons to use orbital terraforming modules, so that you can terraform places with surfaces that are effectively unlivable.
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: James Patten on July 19, 2020, 07:16:11 PM
Since someone brought up the subject of Terraforming, I have a question.  I'm not sure if what I found is a bug or a feature.

I was trying to terraform and add in Water Vapor to a planet that has a temperature below freezing.  After a while I noticed that nothing was really happening to the atmosphere, although my hydrostatic number was rising.  Is this because any water vapor you add to a sub-freezing planet will turn to snow?
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: skoormit on July 19, 2020, 08:29:14 PM
Since someone brought up the subject of Terraforming, I have a question.  I'm not sure if what I found is a bug or a feature.

I was trying to terraform and add in Water Vapor to a planet that has a temperature below freezing.  After a while I noticed that nothing was really happening to the atmosphere, although my hydrostatic number was rising.  Is this because any water vapor you add to a sub-freezing planet will turn to snow?

Snow, or ice. Either way, it falls out of the atmosphere. The water is still there on the planet, it just won't translate into atmospheric water vapor until you raise the surface temperature enough.

The same thing is true on the opposite end, but worse--if you add water vapor to a body with a surface temperature above ~94C, it will just boil away and leave nothing behind. Always lower the temp first in this case.
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: ZimRathbone on July 19, 2020, 10:56:06 PM
Since someone brought up the subject of Terraforming, I have a question.  I'm not sure if what I found is a bug or a feature.

I was trying to terraform and add in Water Vapor to a planet that has a temperature below freezing.  After a while I noticed that nothing was really happening to the atmosphere, although my hydrostatic number was rising.  Is this because any water vapor you add to a sub-freezing planet will turn to snow?

This is Working as Intended...to add water to a planet you add water vapour and it condenses out of the atmosphere into seas  or ice sheets (if the temp is suitable).

You'll  probably notice the colony cost reducing slightly until the Hydro value is high enough that its not causing any penalty.  Don't think it has a very big effect on temp tho - certainly doesn't seem to in my Mars teraform in my current game which is working pretty much as you describe (currently -17C and 11% Hydro).
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: Cobaia on July 20, 2020, 06:10:54 AM
Joining in the Terraforming thread...

Frozen Oxygen is supposed to help in turning the atmosphere breathable?

It doesn't make sense but I've 2 planets with 0 colonization cost from breathable atmosphere with frozen oxygen.
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: SpikeTheHobbitMage on July 20, 2020, 02:55:01 PM
Joining in the Terraforming thread...

Frozen Oxygen is supposed to help in turning the atmosphere breathable?

It doesn't make sense but I've 2 planets with 0 colonization cost from breathable atmosphere with frozen oxygen.
If nothing else those worlds should be way too cold to be cost zero, unless you are using a custom species.  There is some...weirdness with custom species right now.
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: Rich.h on July 21, 2020, 03:24:13 AM
If the planet has that many minerals then my first thought would be automines automines automines. Start with a small amount and use the output of that planet to build more until you have a couple of thousand or so. Then ship everything to a nearby planet/moon with a much lower colony cost. Terraform that body instead and save yourself both many many years waiting to terraform, a huge headache getting around the colonist workers issue, and likely cheaper in build costs all round compared to things like habitates and such.
Title: Re: Terraforming
Post by: davidb86 on July 21, 2020, 03:19:57 PM
Joining in the Terraforming thread...

Frozen Oxygen is supposed to help in turning the atmosphere breathable?

It doesn't make sense but I've 2 planets with 0 colonization cost from breathable atmosphere with frozen oxygen.


The breathable atmosphere cost may be 0 but the temperature cost is significantly higher,  oxygen will boil (unfreeze) far below the temperature for colony cost 2, so by the time you get to colony cost 2 your atmosphere will be breathable if you have at least  0.1 atm of oxygen and it is less than 30% of the atmosphere.