Aurora 4x
C# Aurora => C# Bureau of Design => Topic started by: Barkhorn on July 27, 2020, 12:56:57 AM
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These are my first warships in my first real campaign in C#. They're going to work in squadrons of 4, 3 Clemsons and 1 Mahan. I plan on including a tanker/supply ship for longer deployments. Does this seem reasonable?
Clemson class Destroyer 8 000 tons 236 Crew 1 574.6 BP TCS 160 TH 336 EM 0
4200 km/s Armour 4-35 Shields 0-0 HTK 53 Sensors 24/24/0/0 DCR 5 PPV 62.36
Maint Life 2.03 Years MSP 615 AFR 102% IFR 1.4% 1YR 200 5YR 2 995 Max Repair 504.000 MSP
Commander Control Rating 1 BRG
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Morale Check Required
Magneto-plasma Drive EP672.00 (1) Power 672.0 Fuel Use 29.28% Signature 336.000 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 348 000 Litres Range 26.7 billion km (73 days at full power)
15cm Railgun V40/C3 (4x4) Range 120 000km TS: 4 200 km/s Power 9-3 RM 40 000 km ROF 15
Twin Gauss Cannon R300-100 Turret (1x8) Range 30 000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30 000 km ROF 5
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 Turret (1x12) Range 30 000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30 000 km ROF 5
Beam Fire Control R64-TS16000 (70%) (2) Max Range: 64 000 km TS: 16 000 km/s 84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
Beam Fire Control R256-TS4200 (50%) (1) Max Range: 256 000 km TS: 4 200 km/s 96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R12-PB10 (1) Total Power Output 12.3 Exp 7%
Active Search Sensor AS9-R1 (70%) (1) GPS 32 Range 9m km MCR 812.4k km Resolution 1
EM Sensor EM2.25-24.75 (70%) (1) Sensitivity 24.75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 39.3m km
Thermal Sensor TH2.25-24.75 (70%) (1) Sensitivity 24.75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 39.3m km
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Mahan class Destroyer Leader 8 000 tons 206 Crew 1 439.7 BP TCS 160 TH 336 EM 0
4200 km/s JR 4-50 Armour 4-35 Shields 0-0 HTK 45 Sensors 24/24/0/0 DCR 5 PPV 38.36
Maint Life 1.89 Years MSP 562 AFR 102% IFR 1.4% 1YR 203 5YR 3 041 Max Repair 504.000 MSP
Cryogenic Berths 1 000
Commander Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Morale Check Required
J8000(4-50) Military Jump Drive Max Ship Size 8000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 4
Magneto-plasma Drive EP672.00 (1) Power 672.0 Fuel Use 29.28% Signature 336.000 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 341 000 Litres Range 26.2 billion km (72 days at full power)
Twin Gauss Cannon R300-100 Turret (1x8) Range 30 000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30 000 km ROF 5
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 Turret (1x12) Range 30 000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30 000 km ROF 5
Beam Fire Control R64-TS16000 (70%) (2) Max Range: 64 000 km TS: 16 000 km/s 84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
Active Search Sensor AS8-R1 (70%) (1) GPS 21 Range 8.6m km MCR 771.7k km Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor AS9-R1 (70%) (1) GPS 32 Range 9m km MCR 812.4k km Resolution 1
EM Sensor EM2.25-24.75 (70%) (1) Sensitivity 24.75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 39.3m km
Thermal Sensor TH2.25-24.75 (70%) (1) Sensitivity 24.75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 39.3m km
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
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Looks alright.
Might drop one of the B-FCS for the turrets, potentially split the engines into two different engines. Unless you're role-playing, the Electronic Hardening only works vs. Microwave weapons, so you can probably do without it.
Deployment is really high, and your MSP isn't great considering that beam weapons now eat MSP. The IFR is definitely sensible, too many folks underbuid their Engineering Spaces. I'd try slashing about 3 months of deployment and shoving some Maintenace Storage Bays in, and you should be golden.
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Hi,
I would change the following:
- Use 2 half size Engines. So you are not dead in the water if one engine fails. It will probably also reduces max repair
- You should have 2x Max Repair MSP capacity to field repair your Ships
The Beam Fire Control R256-TS4200 (50%) is IHMO useless as your Weapons can only fire at 30 000km Range, so I would remove itThe Reactor is not needed. Gauss Cannons don't need Enegy- The Active Search Sensor AS8-R1 on the Mahn has the same Resolution as the Active Search Sensor AS9-R1. I would remove it, or replace it with an other Resolution e.g R100
- Use the freed space to increase the MSP capacity, add Armour, Weapons
Edit: I missed the Railgun
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I am not a big fan of single engine ships. If you lose the engine you are completely immobile that is problem especially for beam combatant. It also means that your big engine is expensive to repair. Your MSP supply barely cover the cost of the repair for the engine - 504MSP from the supply of 615 and 562 in case of Mahan. In beam combat you will need MSP to repair your weapons and you will not be able to replace them from supply ship during combat.
Other than that I would maybe consider switching reactor for several smaller ones - same reasoning as for the engine. If you loose your one reactor you will not be able to fire at all.
To Kelewan - reactor is for railguns not gauss.
Edit: You have cryo on Mahan, presumably to rescure survivors? I would use smaller one, maybe two Emergency Cryos? You can use the freed space for engineering. Or equip your supply ship with cryo and drop it on Mahan completely, if your supply ships will be close behind the destroyers they can wait until combat is over to pick them up.
As for the deployement, I would keep 12 months. For me, that is the minimum for combat ship. You may need to guard JP or protect mining operation. I think 12 months is minimum to do things like that.
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I have to agree with what others said.
The two problems are MSP and the single engine. Definitely use at least two engines, both so you're not dead in the water if one breaks and to spend less MSP if one breaks and has to be repaired.
As for MSP, every time a beam weapon shoots you have 1% chance the weapon will "break" and require to be repaired with MSP. For beam weapon combat, unless you plan to win every single engagement with alpha strike, you need a buffer of MSP. The longer you plan to fight, the more you should have.
I'd double the ones you have at the moment.