Aurora 4x

VB6 Aurora => Aurora Bugs => Topic started by: BobS on June 12, 2008, 12:52:32 PM

Title: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: BobS on June 12, 2008, 12:52:32 PM
...i have some problems :cry:
I'm going to uninstall and try to install it again-after you guys tell me what it it you think i did wrong.
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Post by: Erik L on June 12, 2008, 01:26:43 PM
Try to compact the database. I believe there's a menu item for it on one of the far right menus.
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Post by: Erik L on June 12, 2008, 01:27:25 PM
And I moved it to the bugs forum :)
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Post by: IanD on June 12, 2008, 02:21:17 PM
Eric
I got the same error after selecting my PDC task group and inadvertently clicking on "no orders possible for task groups with PDCs". It not only will not go away it?s locked the entire program.  It also locked various PC functions, like Alt Ctrl Del!

I was trying to see if I had to load ordnance into them (the PDCs and do you?) as I still have all my missiles on Earth in my planetary missile stocks, even though I have ordered the Battlefleet to "load ordnance" and where can I select what is loaded (if I can load them!)?

Sorry to be such a numbskull :oops:

Regards
Ian
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Post by: Erik L on June 12, 2008, 03:48:42 PM
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Eric
I got the same error after selecting my PDC task group and inadvertently clicking on "no orders possible for task groups with PDCs". It not only will not go away it?s locked the entire program.  It also locked various PC functions, like Alt Ctrl Del!

I was trying to see if I had to load ordnance into them (the PDCs and do you?) as I still have all my missiles on Earth in my planetary missile stocks, even though I have ordered the Battlefleet to "load ordnance" and where can I select what is loaded (if I can load them!)?

Sorry to be such a numbskull :oops:

Regards
Ian


You need to load ordnance (I think), but you have to do it manually from the F6 ship display screen. On the ordnance tab on the right side is a series of buttons. One of these will reload from planetary stocks.
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Post by: BobS on June 12, 2008, 04:10:43 PM
Thanx for the quick reply erik. I'll try that when i re-install. I'm very much a novice at manually installing files so it might be a while before i can let you know how it went :D
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: SteveAlt on June 12, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: "BobS"
...i have some problems :cry:
I'm going to uninstall and try to install it again-after you guys tell me what it it you think i did wrong.

It sounds like the problems associated with using the wrong database. Its probably best to re-install and make sure you follow every step carefully. I really need to create a new install so you don't need to go through all the steps.

Steve
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Post by: Brian Neumann on June 12, 2008, 07:49:17 PM
This also sounds like the problem that I had with new versions.  Are you using Vista.  If so what worked for me was to do the install.  At each stage where you copy a new version over the old version I had to delete the old version first, empty the trashcan then do the new version.  After everything was done I then compacted the database as the very first thing I did on opening the program.

Hope this helps
Brian
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Post by: BobS on June 13, 2008, 06:03:45 PM
@Brian....OY!!!
There is no way i can do all that. I'm just too noob at that kind of thing. I do have vista and i try to do as little as possible with it. I even use mozila/firefox to webserf as ie is just too slow and ive never been able to figure out how to fix it.
As much as it pains me, i think ill have to wait til steve makes it easier to install.
Of course, if some of you guys would update your campaigns the wait might not seem so bad :D
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Post by: Erik L on June 13, 2008, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: "BobS"
@Brian....OY!!!
There is no way i can do all that. I'm just too noob at that kind of thing. I do have vista and i try to do as little as possible with it. I even use mozila/firefox to webserf as ie is just too slow and ive never been able to figure out how to fix it.
As much as it pains me, i think ill have to wait til steve makes it easier to install.
Of course, if some of you guys would update your campaigns the wait might not seem so bad :D


By default, Aurora is installed in C:\Program Files\Aurora

When doing an update, open that directory in Windows Explorer, and delete Aurora.exe and Stevefire.mdb

Then empty the recycle bin, and apply the update. Wash, rinse, repeat as necessary.
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Post by: BobS on June 14, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
OK, I tried a new install after removing the first one (emptied the trashcan). After running the exe i got, "cannot create aurora images..."
I closed that warning and extracted the image file as per instructions and got, "Cannot create Aurora exe"
"Access denied"
I got that warning each time i extracted the exe files of the 150 and 250 steps.
i also got the 3265 DAO.Field error and a 429 ActiveX component can't create object error.
When i finished as per the instructions (there were so many errors i gave up trying to right them down) I tried running the program. What came up was a small window titled Game Details with a game titled,"Nemesis campaign". Not knowing what to do i hit Select and got a toolbar titled Nemesis campaign with pulldowns titled, Game Spacemaster empires,...etc
So,what do yas think? To the best of my recallection i did install exactly as stated in the instructions. I did NOT do it the way Brian did. I'm kinda pleased that i went as far as i did but im not ready to "push it" :D[/note]

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When i opened the Aurora folder, along with the files it's supposed to have, it had 2 zipfile icons with aurora stuff in them. are they supposed to be there? Seemed kind of odd to me. I've extracted mod files to other games -WoW, Battlezone, Homeworld- and i dont recall seeing zipfile icons in the destination folders....
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Post by: Steve Walmsley on June 14, 2008, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: "BobS"
OK, I tried a new install after removing the first one (emptied the trashcan). After running the exe i got, "cannot create aurora images..."
I closed that warning and extracted the image file as per instructions and got, "Cannot create Aurora exe"
"Access denied"
I got that warning each time i extracted the exe files of the 150 and 250 steps.
i also got the 3265 DAO.Field error and a 429 ActiveX component can't create object error.
When i finished as per the instructions (there were so many errors i gave up trying to right them down) I tried running the program. What came up was a small window titled Game Details with a game titled,"Nemesis campaign". Not knowing what to do i hit Select and got a toolbar titled Nemesis campaign with pulldowns titled, Game Spacemaster empires,...etc
So,what do yas think? To the best of my recallection i did install exactly as stated in the instructions. I did NOT do it the way Brian did. I'm kinda pleased that i went as far as i did but im not ready to "push it" :D
Think i should wait for the Easy EXE ? :D[/note]

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When i opened the Aurora folder, along with the files it's supposed to have, it had 2 zipfile icons with aurora stuff in them. are they supposed to be there? Seemed kind of odd to me. I've extracted mod files to other games -WoW, Battlezone, Homeworld- and i dont recall seeing zipfile icons in the destination folders....

The Nemesis campaign was in v1.0 so you are somehow using the original version of the database rather than the latest one.

Here are the full step by step instructions for install, with the extra steps sometimes required for Vista. If you follow this all the way through, you should be ok

1) If the C\:program Files\Aurora directory exists, delete it

2) Right-click the recycle bin icon on your desktop and select "Empty recycle bin" from the popup menu

3) Download AuroraInstall and unzip it. You will have four files called Aurora.CAB, Setup.exe, Setup.LST and AuroraImages.zip

4) Run Setup.exe. This should run a standard Microsoft install program, installing to the default C:\Program Files\Aurora directory

5) Unzip AuroraImages.zip into the same directory

6) Go into the install directory and delete Stevefire.mdb and Aurora.exe

7) Right-click the recycle bin icon on your desktop and select "Empty recycle bin" from the popup menu

8) Download Aurora120.zip

9) Unzip it into the install directory

10) Go into the install directory and delete Stevefire.mdb and Aurora.exe

11) Right-click the recycle bin icon on your desktop and select "Empty recycle bin" from the popup menu

12) Download Aurora300.zip

13) Unzip it into the install directory

14) Download ExtraGraphics.zip

15) Unzip the extra flags and race pictures into the flags and races directories

16) Download Medals.zip

17) Unzip it into the installation directory, creating a new Medals sub-directory

Steve
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Post by: IanD on June 16, 2008, 03:43:40 AM
Hi
I am also running Aurora on a PC with Vista Ultimate. I have found that if I want to install patches for Aurora (or other programs such as Space Empires V) from zipped files I have to unzip in a folder on my desktop and copy the resultant unzipped files to the Aurora directory, over writing older files then. You have to OK it a couple of times with Vista e.g. ?Do you wish to continue? etc.
This has worked fine for me; any errors are purely of my own making, (principally an Overflow error in a system display) :roll: .
The installation process is a little different for Vista but not much, Once I have run the install program all the other files are unzipped before copying them into the various Aurora folders as above.

If all else fails can you borrow another PC running XP and install Aurora on a memory stick? You can run it from that in your Vista PC quite happily.

Regards
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Post by: IanD on June 16, 2008, 10:40:23 AM
Hi
As I said above I am using Vista and had a problem with an overflow error in the system display, I just tried to compact my database to see if that resolved the matter and had the files ST6UNST.000 and Stevefire deleted :cry: .

Any idea why or what happened?
Regards
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Post by: BobS on June 19, 2008, 04:38:37 PM
hey all. i tried to install again. had no problem til i unzipped 120.made the mistake of trying to unzip the whole folder instead of each individual file. got the "access denied" error plus a couple more. my sons system is XP so ill try getting him to install it on his machine.hopefully he has better luck than me :/
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Post by: IanD on June 20, 2008, 03:32:12 PM
Hi BobS`
If you unzipped the 120 files (and all the others) on your desktop and copy them to the correct directories I think it will work for you. That?s the way I have to do it. For some reason Vista will not let me unzip successfully in the Aurora directory. However I would be interested in how you get on on your XP machine, all you have to watch for there is the screen resolution.

Regards
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Post by: Buaman22 on August 05, 2008, 07:36:17 PM
For some reason I can't post a New Topic because I don't have special access, so I'm going to hijack someone else post.

I've tried a couple different fixes, but nothings worked so far.

When I first start the program I get:

Error in PopulateGameList

Error 3061 was generated by DAO.Database
Too few parameters.  Expected 2.

Anyone have some help for me?

I've tried uninstalling and trying from a lower version, an every version on the way up to 3.11.
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Post by: Erik L on August 05, 2008, 07:51:56 PM
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For some reason I can't post a New Topic because I don't have special access, so I'm going to hijack someone else post.


I do that so new people that are potential spammers cannot start threads. I've given you group access so you can start your own now :)
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: BobS on January 15, 2009, 01:47:11 PM
Ok, after lurking a while, hoping Steve would simplify the aurora instalation, I tried once again to d/l the game. I printed out steve's instructions and followed them to the letter. I cant get past the 120 install ( i keep getting the "access denied, cant install{or run? } aurora exe).I tried extracting the folder 2 way; first i simply extracted the folder icon in the rar file- a little folder image followed by several dots (i do it this way when i extract addon folders for WoW-no problem). When that didnt work, i deleted EVERYTHING aurora- and dumped the trash- started over and when i got to the 120 stuff i extracted them individually...when i tried to extract the exe file i got the error again.
So, to review :D. Looking around a bit i found a "Compatible" or "
comparable" file button and it opens to reveal the planets and flags and ships files and, interestingly, the stevefire.mdb file. but no exe file.
So, is there anyone out there can tell me where i went wrong?
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: welchbloke on January 15, 2009, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: "BobS"
Ok, after lurking a while, hoping Steve would simplify the aurora instalation, I tried once again to d/l the game. I printed out steve's instructions and followed them to the letter. I cant get past the 120 install ( i keep getting the "access denied, cant install{or run? } aurora exe).I tried extracting the folder 2 way; first i simply extracted the folder icon in the rar file- a little folder image followed by several dots (i do it this way when i extract addon folders for WoW-no problem). When that didnt work, i deleted EVERYTHING aurora- and dumped the trash- started over and when i got to the 120 stuff i extracted them individually...when i tried to extract the exe file i got the error again.
So, to review :D. Looking around a bit i found a "Compatible" or "
comparable" file button and it opens to reveal the planets and flags and ships files and, interestingly, the stevefire.mdb file. but no exe file.
So, is there anyone out there can tell me where i went wrong?
If you are using Vista are you installing with admin rather than user rights?  To install Aurora on my Vista machine I enventually had to turn off User Account Control.  To turn it off use the help and support link on the start menu.  Type in User Account Control follow the turn on or off link.  See if this helps.
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: BobS on January 15, 2009, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: "welchbloke"
Quote from: "BobS"
Ok, after lurking a while, hoping Steve would simplify the aurora instalation, I tried once again to d/l the game. I printed out steve's instructions and followed them to the letter. I cant get past the 120 install ( i keep getting the "access denied, cant install{or run? } aurora exe).I tried extracting the folder 2 way; first i simply extracted the folder icon in the rar file- a little folder image followed by several dots (i do it this way when i extract addon folders for WoW-no problem). When that didnt work, i deleted EVERYTHING aurora- and dumped the trash- started over and when i got to the 120 stuff i extracted them individually...when i tried to extract the exe file i got the error again.
So, to review :D. Looking around a bit i found a "Compatible" or "
comparable" file button and it opens to reveal the planets and flags and ships files and, interestingly, the stevefire.mdb file. but no exe file.
So, is there anyone out there can tell me where i went wrong?
If you are using Vista are you installing with admin rather than user rights?  To install Aurora on my Vista machine I enventually had to turn off User Account Control.  To turn it off use the help and support link on the start menu.  Type in User Account Control follow the turn on or off link.  See if this helps.
I'm installing as the admin.
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: welchbloke on January 15, 2009, 04:25:28 PM
Quote from: "BobS"
Quote from: "welchbloke"
*SNIP*
If you are using Vista are you installing with admin rather than user rights?  To install Aurora on my Vista machine I enventually had to turn off User Account Control.  To turn it off use the help and support link on the start menu.  Type in User Account Control follow the turn on or off link.  See if this helps.
I'm installing as the admin.
If you haven't already tried it try turning off UAC and see if it makes a difference.  Not allowing the exe to unzip sounds like a typical Vista 'I know better than my user' firewall/secuirty issue.  I'm not great with Vista and the only way I've found to circumvent security issues lilke this is to turn UAC off and then on again after I've done what I need to do.
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: BobS on January 15, 2009, 07:08:34 PM
ill probly give that a try, but the exe in the first d/l installed fine so i dont give it much hope...
maybe im better off reading the stories and waiting on a simplified install  exe :D
Title: Re: Hi all, first post and naturaly...
Post by: Erik L on January 15, 2009, 07:28:32 PM
For some reason UAC does not like zip file updates (hopefully fixed in Windows 7).

I always extract the files to a "storage" folder on one of my drives... then copy the extracted files over to the program directory. Might try that with UAC off...