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Title: Terraforming Io
Post by: Alno on December 20, 2020, 10:45:31 AM

Hey Everyone,

I am currently trying to terraform Io and i don't know why i can't get the hydrographic Extend high enough.  I am currently at just under 4 atm of pressure, 3 of which are just water vapour.  Is there some special property of Io, that i am missing? Is that thing just a sponge? I have no idea what i am doing wrong and if i could have known this would happen before i started terraforming.

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: Squigles on December 20, 2020, 11:28:35 AM

Water vapor takes time to condense out of the atmosphere.  If memory serves that rate is . 1 atm/year, and each . 025 atm becomes 1% hydrographic extent.  You probably are going to need to turn around and remove some.

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: Rich.h on December 21, 2020, 03:29:19 PM

Terraforming takes a lot of math if you are doing it totally manually. I would suggest instead using the terraforming calculator that someone created in the utilities section, it takes all the headaches out of the process.

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: Alno on December 21, 2020, 08:12:31 PM

Thanks, you two.  I did not know water needed some time to condense.  On Luna and Mars that seemed to happen instantly.  I'm still a bit confused why that takes so much longer on Io, but it is happening now and my colony cost is 0!
I will check out the calculator for less surprises in the future.  :)

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: db48x on December 21, 2020, 09:40:20 PM

Io is smaller than Mars, enough to make terraforming about four times quicker. The condensation happens at the same speed for both, though.

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: Steve Walmsley on December 22, 2020, 03:23:24 AM

Quote from: Alno on December 21, 2020, 08:12:31 PM

Thanks, you two.  I did not know water needed some time to condense.  On Luna and Mars that seemed to happen instantly.  I'm still a bit confused why that takes so much longer on Io, but it is happening now and my colony cost is 0!
I will check out the calculator for less surprises in the future.  :)

The moon and Mars start with ice, so that will become water as you terraform.

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: Jeltz on December 22, 2020, 08:26:49 AM

Quote from: Steve Walmsley on December 22, 2020, 03:23:24 AM

Quote from: Alno on December 21, 2020, 08:12:31 PM

Thanks, you two.  I did not know water needed some time to condense.  On Luna and Mars that seemed to happen instantly.  I'm still a bit confused why that takes so much longer on Io, but it is happening now and my colony cost is 0!
I will check out the calculator for less surprises in the future.  :)

The moon and Mars start with ice, so that will become water as you terraform.

I don't know to what extent Aurora simulates planetary conditions ...
But the mass of Mars is 0.151 Earth with 0.3794 g while the mass of Io is 0.015 Earth with 0.183 g; Mars has a faint but "real" atmosphere, while Io's volcanic gases not only cannot be held back to form an atmosphere, but are torn from Jupiter's magnetosphere and create an obital plasma torus associated with a radial flux tube .

Io is a really bad place to terraform

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: Garfunkel on December 22, 2020, 11:02:48 PM

Aurora does not model any of that.

Title: Re: Terraforming Io
Post by: RougeNPS on December 22, 2020, 11:57:53 PM

Yeah if you want that go play KSP and add some mods. Or Universe Sandbox.