Post by: welchbloke on November 18, 2009, 12:42:00 AM
Firstly a 20 000 Battleship design:
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Cymru class Battleship 20000 tons 1800 Crew 4770 BP TCS 400 TH 3200 EM 600
8000 km/s Armour 10-65 Shields 20-300 Sensors 12/12/0/0 Damage Control Rating 34 PPV 56
Annual Failure Rate: 94% IFR: 1.3% Maintenance Capacity 5068 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Flag Bridge Magazine 672
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (16) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres Range 240.0 billion km (347 days at full power)
Gamma R300/6 Shields (10) Total Fuel Cost 60 Litres per day
15cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser (6) Range 180,000km TS: 8000 km/s Power 6-3 RM 3 ROF 10 6 6 6 4 3 3 2 2 2 1
CIWS-120 (4x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Fire Control S16 96-12000 (2) Max Range: 192,000 km TS: 12000 km/s 95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
GCAM P20 Reactor (1) Total Power Output 20 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Longsword Mk1 AS ML (8) Missile Size 4 Rate of Fire 25
Looking Glass MK1 AS MFC (1) Range 108.0m km Resolution 20
Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) (168) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 93.7m Range: 112.5m km WH: 6 Size: 4 TH: 133 / 80 / 40
Leading Eye Mk1 LRS (1) GPS 7200 Range 72.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1) Sensitivity 12 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM2-12 (1) Sensitivity 12 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 12m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Post by: welchbloke on November 18, 2009, 12:43:39 AM
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Ynys Mon class Missile Cruiser 16000 tons 1463 Crew 4101 BP TCS 320 TH 2600 EM 0
8125 km/s Armour 6-56 Shields 0-0 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 26 PPV 50
Annual Failure Rate: 78% IFR: 1.1% Maintenance Capacity 4165 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 1490
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (13) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres Range 300.0 billion km (427 days at full power)
Rapier Mk1 AM ML (10) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 10
Longsword Mk1 AS ML (10) Missile Size 4 Rate of Fire 25
Monicle Mk1 AM MFC (2) Range 5.4m km Resolution 1
Looking Glass MK1 AS MFC (2) Range 108.0m km Resolution 20
Dart Mk1 AMM (610) Speed: 32,000 km/s End: 31.2m Range: 60m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 277 / 166 / 83
Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) (220) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 93.7m Range: 112.5m km WH: 6 Size: 4 TH: 133 / 80 / 40
Leading Eye Mk1 LRS (1) GPS 7200 Range 72.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Post by: welchbloke on November 18, 2009, 12:44:52 AM
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Broadsword class Destroyer Escort 10000 tons 827 Crew 2743 BP TCS 200 TH 2000 EM 300
10000 km/s Armour 6-41 Shields 10-300 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 11 PPV 20
Annual Failure Rate: 72% IFR: 1% Maintenance Capacity 1886 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 420
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (10) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,050,000 Litres Range 630.0 billion km (729 days at full power)
Gamma R300/6 Shields (5) Total Fuel Cost 30 Litres per day
CIWS-120 (2x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Rapier Mk1 AM ML (20) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 10
Monicle Mk1 AM MFC (2) Range 5.4m km Resolution 1
Dart Mk1 AMM (420) Speed: 32,000 km/s End: 31.2m Range: 60m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 277 / 166 / 83
Extra Eye Mk 1 MRS(HR) (1) GPS 360 Range 3.6m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Post by: welchbloke on November 18, 2009, 12:46:23 AM
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Iron Duke class Frigate 8000 tons 785 Crew 2062 BP TCS 160 TH 1600 EM 120
10000 km/s Armour 6-35 Shields 4-300 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 11 PPV 20
Annual Failure Rate: 46% IFR: 0.6% Maintenance Capacity 1772 MSP Max Repair 180 MSP
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (8) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres Range 450.0 billion km (520 days at full power)
Gamma R300/6 Shields (2) Total Fuel Cost 12 Litres per day
15cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser (5) Range 180,000km TS: 10000 km/s Power 6-3 RM 3 ROF 10 6 6 6 4 3 3 2 2 2 1
CIWS-120 (1x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Fire Control S16 96-12000 (2) Max Range: 192,000 km TS: 12000 km/s 95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
GCAM P20 Reactor (1) Total Power Output 20 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Roving Eye Mk1 MRS (1) GPS 3600 Range 36.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Post by: welchbloke on November 18, 2009, 12:47:38 AM
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Hunt class Fleet Scout 13000 tons 1163 Crew 4455 BP TCS 260 TH 3000 EM 0
11538 km/s Armour 6-49 Shields 0-0 Sensors 120/120/0/0 Damage Control Rating 21 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 64% IFR: 0.9% Maintenance Capacity 4498 MSP Max Repair 1800 MSP
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (15) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,500,000 Litres Range 692.3 billion km (694 days at full power)
CIWS-120 (1x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Telescope Mk1 ERS (1) GPS 36000 Range 360.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH20-120 (1) Sensitivity 120 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 120m km
EM Detection Sensor EM20-120 (1) Sensitivity 120 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 120m km
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Post by: waresky on November 18, 2009, 09:18:16 AM
Am like name on items onboard.Good.
And..damn u have REALLY FASTEST ships.
Am beginining on real tech on earth..so for now am stopped on Ion,because am think r very hard for now "on real world" and in early Aurora stage campaign,reach a very good drive design.
ive plotted my Tech Drive advance every 50..100..150..300 years..
Post by: Beersatron on November 18, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
- The active search sensors on the missile ships are far shorter range than the fire control and the actual missiles range, so if your scouts bite the bullet then you will have to get in closer
- Is 1 FC enough for all 8 launchers? I find that having the option to split my fire helps a lot, especially if you up against FACs or similar.
- Does your AS missiles have on board sensors? If you are fighting at max range and have 20 salvos in the air at a target but it only takes 12 salvos to kill it then the other 8 are just going to get wasted. With some sensors they might be able to lock onto another target.
- The missile cruiser is missing a resolution 1 active search sensor
-The AM has 60m km range? Could you increase the speed and agility and decrease the range to the same as the FC? That way you will get a far higher interception rate.
I like the engines and the lasers!
The missile cruiser looks like it could take on the Battleship what with the 60m km range AM missiles! The kind of salvo density it could put out might be enough to swamp the lasers in PD mode as well as the CIWS.
Post by: waresky on November 18, 2009, 10:03:33 AM
another r range of Anti-Missile.--drop at max 5-7 milliokM,and raise drammatically SPEED and Agility.
only that.
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ahh..beers are more faster than me in reply and awesome ideas.
For Beersatron: ive u show lasers of mine ship's Danguard?..300mm Extra far 600.000 km range,am lucky found.
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30cm C10 Extreme X-ray Laser (2) Range 600,000km TS: 8000 km/s Power 24-10 RM 9 ROF 15 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 21
GB Fire Control S05 300-10000 H40 (1) Max Range: 600,000 km TS: 10000 km/s 98 97 95 93 92 90 88 87 85 83
Post by: Beersatron on November 18, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
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only little idea: lately ive read some history around,in Aurora am mean,and ive found very USEFUL 2+ MissileFireControl onboard,1 for 4-5 missilesBatterys
another r range of Anti-Missile.--drop at max 5-7 milliokM,and raise drammatically SPEED and Agility.
only that.
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ahh..beers are more faster than me in reply and awesome ideas.
For Beersatron: ive u show lasers of mine ship's Danguard?..300mm Extra far 600.000 km range,am lucky found.Code: [Select]30cm C10 Extreme X-ray Laser (2) Range 600,000km TS: 8000 km/s Power 24-10 RM 9 ROF 15 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 21
GB Fire Control S05 300-10000 H40 (1) Max Range: 600,000 km TS: 10000 km/s 98 97 95 93 92 90 88 87 85 83
Damn nice range on the lasers, and the dmg looks a treat too!Wouldn't want to jump through a JP and into those
Post by: welchbloke on November 18, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
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Looks good for the most part, only things I can see are:To answer the points in turn:
- The active search sensors on the missile ships are far shorter range than the fire control and the actual missiles range, so if your scouts bite the bullet then you will have to get in closer
- Is 1 FC enough for all 8 launchers? I find that having the option to split my fire helps a lot, especially if you up against FACs or similar.
- Does your AS missiles have on board sensors? If you are fighting at max range and have 20 salvos in the air at a target but it only takes 12 salvos to kill it then the other 8 are just going to get wasted. With some sensors they might be able to lock onto another target.
- The missile cruiser is missing a resolution 1 active search sensor
-The AM has 60m km range? Could you increase the speed and agility and decrease the range to the same as the FC? That way you will get a far higher interception rate.
I like the engines and the lasers!
The missile cruiser looks like it could take on the Battleship what with the 60m km range AM missiles! The kind of salvo density it could put out might be enough to swamp the lasers in PD mode as well as the CIWS.
- I've accepted the risk regarding the sensor ranges (I may revisit this after some heavy combat) and each of my task groups should have 2 fleet scouts assigned.
- I'd completely missed the single FC for eight launchers :oops:
- I agree with the excessive AM range, the next generation will have a much reduced range and increased agility/speed.
Thanks for the feedback.
Post by: welchbloke on November 19, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
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Arenig Fach class Battlecruiser 20000 tons 2100 Crew 4613 BP TCS 400 TH 3200 EM 300
8000 km/s Armour 5-65 Shields 10-300 Sensors 12/12/0/0 Damage Control Rating 34 PPV 88
Annual Failure Rate: 94% IFR: 1.3% Maintenance Capacity 4901 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 880
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (16) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres Range 240.0 billion km (347 days at full power)
Gamma R300/6 Shields (5) Total Fuel Cost 30 Litres per day
15cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser (2) Range 180,000km TS: 8000 km/s Power 6-3 RM 3 ROF 10 6 6 6 4 3 3 2 2 2 1
CIWS-120 (4x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Fire Control S16 96-12000 (2) Max Range: 192,000 km TS: 12000 km/s 95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
GCAM P20 Reactor (1) Total Power Output 20 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Pilum Mk1 HAS ML (10) Missile Size 8 Rate of Fire 50
Binocular Mk1 LR ASM MFC (1) Range 216.0m km Resolution 20
Spear Mk1 HSM(S) (100) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 93.7m Range: 112.5m km WH: 12 Size: 8 TH: 133 / 80 / 40
Lance Mk1 LSM(S) (10) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 156.2m Range: 187.5m km WH: 6 Size: 8 TH: 66 / 40 / 20
Roving Eye Mk1 MRS (1) GPS 3600 Range 36.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1) Sensitivity 12 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM2-12 (1) Sensitivity 12 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 12m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposesI know the reactor is far more than is required but it is 1HS in size and I've kept a common reactor design for all my warships.
Post by: welchbloke on November 19, 2009, 11:00:10 PM
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Ynys Mon Batch2 class Missile Cruiser 17000 tons 1556 Crew 4610 BP TCS 340 TH 2800 EM 0
8235 km/s Armour 6-58 Shields 0-0 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 27 PPV 50
Annual Failure Rate: 85% IFR: 1.2% Maintenance Capacity 4576 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 1490
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (14) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 850,000 Litres Range 300.0 billion km (421 days at full power)
Rapier Mk1 AM ML (10) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 10
Longsword Mk1 AS ML (10) Missile Size 4 Rate of Fire 25
Monicle Mk1 AM MFC (2) Range 5.4m km Resolution 1
Looking Glass MK1 AS MFC (2) Range 108.0m km Resolution 20
Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) (220) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 93.7m Range: 112.5m km WH: 6 Size: 4 TH: 133 / 80 / 40
Dart Mk2 AMM (610) Speed: 32,000 km/s End: 3.1m Range: 6m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 352 / 211 / 105
Extra Eye Mk 1 MRS(HR) (1) GPS 360 Range 3.6m km Resolution 1
Leading Eye Mk1 LRS (1) GPS 7200 Range 72.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Post by: waresky on November 20, 2009, 10:51:42 AM
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Ynys Mon class Missile Cruiser 16000 tons 1463 Crew 4101 BP TCS 320 TH 2600 EM 0
8125 km/s Armour 6-56 Shields 0-0 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 26 PPV 50
Annual Failure Rate: 78% IFR: 1.1% Maintenance Capacity 4165 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 1490
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (13) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres Range 300.0 billion km (427 days at full power)
Rapier Mk1 AM ML (10) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 10
Longsword Mk1 AS ML (10) Missile Size 4 Rate of Fire 25
Monicle Mk1 AM MFC (2) Range 5.4m km Resolution 1
Looking Glass MK1 AS MFC (2) Range 108.0m km Resolution 20
Dart Mk1 AMM (610) Speed: 32,000 km/s End: 31.2m Range: 60m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 277 / 166 / 83
Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) (220) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 93.7m Range: 112.5m km WH: 6 Size: 4 TH: 133 / 80 / 40
Leading Eye Mk1 LRS (1) GPS 7200 Range 72.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposesmine..
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FNE Kennedy class Missile Cruiser 34350 tons 2998 Crew 8001.36 BP TCS 687 TH 1287 EM 0
2497 km/s Armour 4-94 Shields 0-0 Sensors 96/240/0/0 Damage Control Rating 125 PPV 48
Annual Failure Rate: 89% IFR: 1.2% Maintenance Capacity 15287 MSP Max Repair 1344 MSP
Magazine 1413
Grumman Ion Engine E3.75 ARM-2 (33) Power 52 Fuel Use 37.5% Signature 39 Armour 2 Exp 3%
Fuel Capacity 520,000 Litres Range 72.6 billion km (336 days at full power)
CIWS-320 ECCM-1 (2x4) Range 1000 km TS: 32000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
RGM Size 6 Missile Launcher (8) Missile Size 6 Rate of Fire 25
A-Boat Missile Fire Control FC240-R18 (40%) (2) Range 129.6m km Resolution 18
RGM-6 Arrowhead 167 (119) Speed: 28,800 km/s End: 37.6m Range: 65m km WH: 14 Size: 6 TH: 220 / 132 / 66
RGM-6 Arrowhead T 169 (116) Speed: 16,000 km/s End: 125m Range: 120m km WH: 12 Size: 6 TH: 122 / 73 / 36
AS 16 Active Search Sensor S768-R20 (40%) (1) GPS 15360 Range 153.6m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH3-96 (40%) (1) Sensitivity 96 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 96m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-240 (40%) (1) Sensitivity 240 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 240m km
ECCM-1 (1) ECM 10
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Am use a Termal Size 6 missile,8 launcher instead ur 10..
mine slightly far range,high difference warhead (ur 6 mine 12) but UR ship r awesome hightech Drive..
so the difference r zero,i think ur r better,because u can stay out of range much faster than mine..
and urs r heavily armored
And at last but betetr chance u have ANTI-MISSILES weaponsystem,mine not.
Post by: welchbloke on November 20, 2009, 03:50:23 PM
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Code: [Select]Ynys Mon class Missile Cruiser 16000 tons 1463 Crew 4101 BP TCS 320 TH 2600 EM 0
8125 km/s Armour 6-56 Shields 0-0 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 26 PPV 50
Annual Failure Rate: 78% IFR: 1.1% Maintenance Capacity 4165 MSP Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 1490
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (13) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres Range 300.0 billion km (427 days at full power)
Rapier Mk1 AM ML (10) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 10
Longsword Mk1 AS ML (10) Missile Size 4 Rate of Fire 25
Monicle Mk1 AM MFC (2) Range 5.4m km Resolution 1
Looking Glass MK1 AS MFC (2) Range 108.0m km Resolution 20
Dart Mk1 AMM (610) Speed: 32,000 km/s End: 31.2m Range: 60m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 277 / 166 / 83
Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) (220) Speed: 20,000 km/s End: 93.7m Range: 112.5m km WH: 6 Size: 4 TH: 133 / 80 / 40
Leading Eye Mk1 LRS (1) GPS 7200 Range 72.0m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
mine..Code: [Select]FNE Kennedy class Missile Cruiser 34350 tons 2998 Crew 8001.36 BP TCS 687 TH 1287 EM 0
2497 km/s Armour 4-94 Shields 0-0 Sensors 96/240/0/0 Damage Control Rating 125 PPV 48
Annual Failure Rate: 89% IFR: 1.2% Maintenance Capacity 15287 MSP Max Repair 1344 MSP
Magazine 1413
Grumman Ion Engine E3.75 ARM-2 (33) Power 52 Fuel Use 37.5% Signature 39 Armour 2 Exp 3%
Fuel Capacity 520,000 Litres Range 72.6 billion km (336 days at full power)
CIWS-320 ECCM-1 (2x4) Range 1000 km TS: 32000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
RGM Size 6 Missile Launcher (8) Missile Size 6 Rate of Fire 25
A-Boat Missile Fire Control FC240-R18 (40%) (2) Range 129.6m km Resolution 18
RGM-6 Arrowhead 167 (119) Speed: 28,800 km/s End: 37.6m Range: 65m km WH: 14 Size: 6 TH: 220 / 132 / 66
RGM-6 Arrowhead T 169 (116) Speed: 16,000 km/s End: 125m Range: 120m km WH: 12 Size: 6 TH: 122 / 73 / 36
AS 16 Active Search Sensor S768-R20 (40%) (1) GPS 15360 Range 153.6m km Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH3-96 (40%) (1) Sensitivity 96 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 96m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-240 (40%) (1) Sensitivity 240 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 240m km
ECCM-1 (1) ECM 10
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Am use a Termal Size 6 missile,8 launcher instead ur 10..
mine slightly far range,high difference warhead (ur 6 mine 12) but UR ship r awesome hightech Drive..:D
Post by: waresky on November 20, 2009, 04:18:17 PM
This 2 simple items can take lonely more than 50% ships mass.
IVE a simple ION Drive,and if am will my ship travel little fast than a Deer AM MUST put onboard a HUGE Drive mass.
Only that.
Post by: waresky on November 20, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
Ther r many guys love begin with absolutely incredible Marvel Drive.
in early 2070,and am think for no more than 30 next year,..r narrow to impossible pass a simple ION..
In terms of REALITY and low profile tech.
If someone can think who human take a "easy" Stars Road..r free to learn UltraSCAM drive on 2050.Freely on.
Post by: welchbloke on November 20, 2009, 04:43:19 PM
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All r blinded upon a mereley fact,no 2: DRIVE weight and Engineer spareAh, makes sense now I didn't check how many engines you had
This 2 simple items can take lonely more than 50% ships mass.
IVE a simple ION Drive,and if am will my ship travel little fast than a Deer AM MUST put onboard a HUGE Drive mass.
Only that.
I noticed the engineering MSP but I didn't think it contributed so much.....
Post by: waresky on November 21, 2009, 04:19:19 AM
But ive another question,am put another post: better Engineer spare (many) OR many Damage Control and few Engineer spares????..
Post by: welchbloke on November 22, 2009, 12:24:10 AM
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Buoy Size: 8 MSP (0.4 HS) Armour: 0
Reactor Endurance: 40 months
Active Sensor Strength: 3.6 Resolution: 20 Maximum Range: 720,000 km
Cost Per Buoy: 14.8333
Second Stage: Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) x1
Second Stage Separation Range: 150,000 km
Materials Required: 1.5x Tritanium 8x Boronide 3.75x Uridium 1.8333x Gallicite
Development Cost for Project: 1483RPHere's my first go at a Sensor Buoy. Again how can I improve the design?
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Buoy Size: 8 MSP (0.4 HS) Armour: 0
Reactor Endurance: 80 months
Active Sensor Strength: 7.2 Resolution: 20 Maximum Range: 1,440,000 km
Cost Per Buoy: 23.2
Materials Required: 16x Boronide 7.2x Uridium
Development Cost for Project: 2320RPI've designed both of these to be able to be fired from my largest shipboard ML. Should I design a specialist launcher?
Post by: welchbloke on November 22, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
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Dreigiau class Assault Shuttle 1000 tons 45 Crew 213 BP TCS 20 TH 400 EM 0
20000 km/s Armour 2-8 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 8% IFR: 0.1% Maintenance Capacity 133 MSP Max Repair 100 MSP
Drop Capacity: 1 Battalion
Scorpion SCAM(GB) Drive (1) Power 400 Fuel Use 300% Signature 400 Armour 0 Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres Range 30.0 billion km (17 days at full power)
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposesAny pointers?
Post by: waresky on November 22, 2009, 04:34:38 AM
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Northrop BuoyLauncherSystem 8
Maximum Missile Size: 8 Rate of Fire: 600 seconds
Launcher Size: 132 Tons Launcher HTK: 1
Cost Per Launcher: 29.04 Crew Per Launcher: 4
Materials Required: 7.26x Duranium 21.78x Tritanium
Development Cost for Project: 290RP
Probably r good this one?
Post by: welchbloke on November 24, 2009, 05:42:27 PM
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Thanks, having reviewed Steve's design from his Federated Nations campaign I think I'm going to design some new bouys. I think I'm going to go all out and design some size 24 buoys and mines. I'll post them for critique in a day or two.Code: [Select]Northrop BuoyLauncherSystem 8Probably r good this one?
Maximum Missile Size: 8 Rate of Fire: 600 seconds
Launcher Size: 132 Tons Launcher HTK: 1
Cost Per Launcher: 29.04 Crew Per Launcher: 4
Materials Required: 7.26x Duranium 21.78x Tritanium
Development Cost for Project: 290RP
Post by: welchbloke on November 25, 2009, 01:35:38 AM
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Captor Mk2 HMB(A)
Buoy Size: 24 MSP (1.2 HS) Armour: 0
Reactor Endurance: 100 months
Active Sensor Strength: 1.8 Resolution: 100 Maximum Range: 1,800,000 km
Thermal Sensor Strength: 0.3 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 300,000 km
EM Sensor Strength: 0.4 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 400,000 km
Cost Per Buoy: 35.4332
Second Stage: Arrow Mk1 ASM(S) x4
Second Stage Separation Range: 2,000,000 km
Materials Required: 6x Tritanium 20x Boronide 3.1x Uridium 8.0832x Gallicite
Development Cost for Project: 3543RP
Sensor Buoy:
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Sentry Mk2 HSB(A)
Buoy Size: 24 MSP (1.2 HS) Armour: 0
Reactor Endurance: 120 months
Active Sensor Strength: 32.4 Resolution: 100 Maximum Range: 32,400,000 km
Cost Per Buoy: 56.4
Materials Required: 24x Boronide 32.4x Uridium
Development Cost for Project: 5640RP
Specialist Mine/Buoy Launcher:
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Palantir Mk1 MBL
Maximum Missile Size: 24 Rate of Fire: 145 seconds
Launcher Size: 24 HS Launcher HTK: 12
Cost Per Launcher: 192 Crew Per Launcher: 240
Materials Required: 48x Duranium 144x Tritanium
Development Cost for Project: 1920RP
Is a 10 yr life for a sensor buoy too long do you think?
Post by: welchbloke on November 25, 2009, 01:44:33 AM
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Rygbi class Assault Transport 16000 tons 826 Crew 2989 BP TCS 320 TH 2600 EM 0
8125 km/s Armour 6-56 Shields 0-0 Sensors 12/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 25 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 81% IFR: 1.1% Maintenance Capacity 2919 MSP Max Repair 100 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 5000 tons Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions
Merlin SCAM(Mil) Drive (13) Power 200 Fuel Use 30% Signature 200 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 750,000 Litres Range 281.3 billion km (400 days at full power)
CIWS-120a (2x4) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1) Sensitivity 12 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 12m km
ECM 10
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposesThis ship would carry 5 of the Dreigiau Class assault shuttles posted earlier in the thread.This is the Troop transport consort to the Rygbi Class:
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Garnedd Goch class Troop Transport 41500 tons 648 Crew 2238 BP TCS 830 TH 5000 EM 0
6024 km/s Armour 1-106 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 21 PPV 0
Maintenance Capacity 708 MSP Max Repair 125 MSP
Troop Capacity: 10 Battalions
Donkey SCAM(Civ) Drive (10) Power 500 Fuel Use 3% Signature 500 Armour 0 Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres Range 867.5 billion km (1666 days at full power)
CIWS-120 (4x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
This design is classed as a commercial vessel for maintenance purposesBecause I was feeling generous I've designed a Jump Drive equipped TT as well:
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Snowdon class Jump Troop Transport 65000 tons 1126 Crew 3515 BP TCS 1300 TH 8000 EM 0
6153 km/s JR 2-25(C) Armour 1-144 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 35 PPV 0
Maintenance Capacity 1183 MSP Max Repair 210 MSP
Troop Capacity: 10 Battalions
JC65K Commercial Jump Drive Max Ship Size 65000 tons Distance 25k km Squadron Size 2
Donkey SCAM(Civ) Drive (16) Power 500 Fuel Use 3% Signature 500 Armour 0 Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 1,150,000 Litres Range 1061.4 billion km (1996 days at full power)
CIWS-120 (4x2) Range 1000 km TS: 12000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
This design is classed as a commercial vessel for maintenance purposes
Bizarrely it is slightly faster than the 'vanilla' troop transport
Post by: Andrew on November 25, 2009, 03:44:36 AM
Post by: welchbloke on November 25, 2009, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: "Andrew"
I don't see any cargo handling systems, Could be I missed them. If not you need to have them otherwise you can forget loading troops or trasnferring them to drop bays in less than geological time.No you haven't missed them; these were my first designs since Steve changed the rules and I completely forgot to include them!
Post by: Beersatron on November 25, 2009, 03:45:20 PM
If you have active sensors is there any point in having the TH and EM ones too? I am still a bit unsure as to which sensor 'hands-off' to the missile and how much sensor range the missile needs.
i.e.
Step 1. Buoy has 1million km ASS
Step 2. Missile has 250k km ASS
Step 3. Buoy detects Target, downloads targeting data to Missile and launches missile
Step 4. [Buoy self destructs on release of missile??]
Step 5. Missile locks onto Target using on-board ASS? (this is the part I'm not sure on, if the Buoy self destructs and the Target is 900k km away then the Missile won't loose it)
Step 6. Missile tracks and attempts to hit Target
Step 7. [Buoy self destructs after Missile has hit the Target/lost Target/ran out of fuel??]
Step n-1. ..
Step n. Profit?
Post by: welchbloke on November 25, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: "Beersatron"
What are the stats for the Arrow Mk1 ASM(S)?
If you have active sensors is there any point in having the TH and EM ones too? I am still a bit unsure as to which sensor 'hands-off' to the missile and how much sensor range the missile needs.
i.e.
Step 1. Buoy has 1million km ASS
Step 2. Missile has 250k km ASS
Step 3. Buoy detects Target, downloads targeting data to Missile and launches missile
Step 4. [Buoy self destructs on release of missile??]
Step 5. Missile locks onto Target using on-board ASS? (this is the part I'm not sure on, if the Buoy self destructs and the Target is 900k km away then the Missile won't loose it)
Step 6. Missile tracks and attempts to hit Target
Step 7. [Buoy self destructs after Missile has hit the Target/lost Target/ran out of fuel??]
Step n-1. ..
Step n. Profit?
:D What I should have done is looked at whether I could squeeze another submunition in.
Post by: Andrew on November 25, 2009, 04:59:24 PM
Quote from: "welchbloke"
So did I on my first designs , hence the comment about Geological time to move troops aroundQuote from: "Andrew"I don't see any cargo handling systems, Could be I missed them. If not you need to have them otherwise you can forget loading troops or trasnferring them to drop bays in less than geological time.No you haven't missed them; these were my first designs since Steve changed the rules and I completely forgot to include them!
Post by: welchbloke on November 26, 2009, 05:07:36 PM
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 28, 2009, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: "Beersatron"
What are the stats for the Arrow Mk1 ASM(S)?The buoys don't self-destruct. This is to make mine-clearing harder as you won't know which buoys are still potential captor mines.
If you have active sensors is there any point in having the TH and EM ones too? I am still a bit unsure as to which sensor 'hands-off' to the missile and how much sensor range the missile needs.
i.e.
Step 1. Buoy has 1million km ASS
Step 2. Missile has 250k km ASS
Step 3. Buoy detects Target, downloads targeting data to Missile and launches missile
Step 4. [Buoy self destructs on release of missile??]
Step 5. Missile locks onto Target using on-board ASS? (this is the part I'm not sure on, if the Buoy self destructs and the Target is 900k km away then the Missile won't loose it)
Step 6. Missile tracks and attempts to hit Target
Step 7. [Buoy self destructs after Missile has hit the Target/lost Target/ran out of fuel??]
When it releases sub-munitions, the captor mine passes on the target location to the sub-munitions. They head for that location and try to pick up the target on their own sensors. So the missile sensors need to have enough range to account for any potential target movement between initial detection by the captor mines and their arrival at that location. For example, assume you were using active sensors, the captor mine had a one million km range and the sub-munitions had a speed of 20,000 km/s. The missiles would take a maximum of fifty seconds to reach the target. If you assumed a target speed of 4000 km/s, then you might give the missiles a 200,000 km sensor range. Faster sub-munitions are likely to need a smaller sensor range.
Giving the sub-munitions multiple sensors is a valid design choice as they would use any available sensors to find a target, although you may be better with one sensor and more speed or a larger warhead.
Steve