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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: gamemonger56 on February 27, 2011, 03:07:11 PM

Title: Terraforming Venus
Post by: gamemonger56 on February 27, 2011, 03:07:11 PM

I have a dream.....

Anyway, I have the following at Venus

11 Terraforming Engines

Oxygen 28.55%  20Atm
Safe Greenhouse .07%   .05 Atm
Nitrogen  71.38% 50Atm
  greenhouse Faction  3.0



What to do what to do

The Czar for Breathable Air
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Erik L on February 27, 2011, 03:14:24 PM
I have a dream.....

Anyway, I have the following at Venus

11 Terraforming Engines

Oxygen 28.55%  20Atm
Safe Greenhouse .07%   .05 Atm
Nitrogen  71.38% 50Atm
  greenhouse Faction  3.0



What to do what to do

The Czar for Breathable Air

You need to drop the atmo to a breathable pressure. 70 atm is a bit much ;). Try reducing the gasses in half first. Keep reducing them until you get to ~1 Atm. Note- This might take a LONG time.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: sloanjh on February 27, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
You need to drop the atmo to a breathable pressure. 70 atm is a bit much ;). Try reducing the gasses in half first. Keep reducing them until you get to ~1 Atm. Note- This might take a LONG time.

Might?  :)
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: James Patten on February 27, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
Try 100 terraforming engines, and you might get a habitable Venus in your lifetime.  ;D
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Tarran on February 27, 2011, 05:32:15 PM
Also, 20 Atms of oxygen is WAY too much. The max humans can breath is .3 Atms.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: sloanjh on February 27, 2011, 07:06:22 PM
To be serious for a moment, if you're going to try to terraform Venus (or any other h***hole), do it from orbit.  The colony cost takes a straight percentage off the available workers - on really bad worlds like Venus you have 0 available workers to run the terraforming machines - they're all presumably plugging holes in the habitat.

John
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Erik L on February 27, 2011, 07:26:27 PM
Anything I want to colonize with a cost over 4ish, gets orbital ships. Anything under that gets installations AND orbital ships.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Icebird on February 28, 2011, 01:29:19 AM
I just finished removing 50 atm of carbon dioxide, and in another 20 years I will have finished removing the 50 atm of nitrogen, thx to my 5 Atlas class giant terraformers:

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Atlas class Terraformer 2638400 tons     23075 Crew     58930.3984 BP      TCS 52768  TH 21875  EM 0
414 km/s     Armour 1-1700     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control 1     PPV 0
Maintenance Capacity 14 MSP
Terraformer: 100 module(s) producing 0.4 atm per annum

C- ICF Drive E0.225 (100)    Power 218.75    Fuel Use 2.25%    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 1 500 000 Litres    Range 45.4 billion km   (1269 days at full power)


This ship is classed as a commercial vessel for maintenance purposes

Yes, its ridiculously expensive, but if you want to terraform Venus you will need several hundreds modules.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Mel Vixen on February 28, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
Where do you build these things? I was toying with a similiar idea but wanted to include a Orbital habitat so i can build these ships in my factories.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Icebird on February 28, 2011, 07:02:03 AM
Bringing a commercial shipyard to that size is surprisingly fast.
In fact, I forgot I put it on auto-expand, and missed my mark by a few weeks, and got a 3 millions tons shipyard instead of the 2.5m I wanted.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: voknaar on February 28, 2011, 06:52:24 PM
Bringing a commercial shipyard to that size is surprisingly fast.
In fact, I forgot I put it on auto-expand, and missed my mark by a few weeks, and got a 3 millions tons shipyard instead of the 2.5m I wanted.

Nice. How long does it take the shipyard to build one of them there terraformers?
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Icebird on March 01, 2011, 01:34:02 AM
Nice. How long does it take the shipyard to build one of them there terraformers?

Half a year...
Yes, its FAST. Too fast even, but I think its because it have only base components, nothing expensive individually.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: ShadoCat on March 01, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Half a year...
Yes, its FAST. Too fast even, but I think its because it have only base components, nothing expensive individually.
It could be even faster if you had industry build the terraforming modules.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: gamemonger56 on March 02, 2011, 05:34:36 PM


i cant keep ahead of the worker demand for the other industries, i've had 11 terraformers sitting on venus since i started in 2025, its now 2061. finally i build 4 terraformers and put them into venus orbit and now im seeing some results. gonna take the 11 that are on surface and go elsewher ewiht em and and add more in orbit. Venusian colonists are such WHINERS!
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Deutschbag on March 02, 2011, 05:41:16 PM
What is your current terraform rate per module/installation per annum? And what's your temperature, oxygen atm, and total atm goals? And when do you want it terraformed by? Gimme those values and I can tell you exactly how many modules you need.
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: gamemonger56 on March 02, 2011, 10:19:06 PM

oxygen 28.56%   20atm
Safe GHG .07%    .05 atm
Nitrogen 71.37%   70.0323 atm

base temp is -28
surface 462
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: Deutschbag on March 02, 2011, 11:35:56 PM
I said, what are your goals. Not what is the current. Also, what's your terraform rate, and when do you want it done by. (how many years)
Title: Re: Terraforming Venus
Post by: gamemonger56 on March 03, 2011, 12:08:56 AM


goal is livable say 3-400 infrastructure needed instead of 1900 per million. in 30 years earth-like.

.0123 at is the terrforming now with 14.2 modules in orbit and more being built