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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: Thibaut on September 02, 2011, 05:19:46 AM

Title: ground combat
Post by: Thibaut on September 02, 2011, 05:19:46 AM
One of my archeologid planets have been invaded by robots and i'd like to get rid them.

My current military tech is still very basic, i've been concentrated on economics (mining/construction/engines/research) up to now, and was planning to use a laser based design that would also serve a passive sensor role.

However I've just read that lasers don't work in atmospheres ? is that meaning that you can't hit ground units from space with lasers   ?
If that is confirmed what weapons would be recommended, excluding missiles ?

Second point, my ground forces have taken pretty serious hits and I was wondering how replacement battalions work , I though you could replenish other battlaions using them but can't figure how.
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Mini on September 02, 2011, 05:42:43 AM
The only weapons that aren't effected by atmosphere (as far as I am aware) are meson cannons and missles. However, if the planet you are on has an atmosphere less than 1atm, you can still hit things on the ground, your weapons will just have a reduced effect.

Replacement battalions are automatic, just have them in the same place as the wounded battalion.
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: sloanjh on September 02, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
Replacement battalions are automatic, just have them in the same place as the wounded battalion.

But it's a gradual effect.  The replacement battalion(s) will slowly go down while the combat battalions are slowly replenished.

John
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Thibaut on September 02, 2011, 09:02:10 AM
yep that helped, thanks.

In the end I ended up winning the fight, but I'm very surprised.
At the beginning I had only an engineer brigade on that planet, roaming 150+ installations, looking for anything salvageable.
They ended up awakening some robots so I brought  real troops (4 battalions).
Then, I think some troop transport dropped some reinforcements, total was probably about 10 marine battalions, and they were devastating the limited troops I had brought here

After a tactical retreat, I invaded back  with 2 full regiments, and about 6 months later, I eliminate the last ennemies.
What's really a surprise (and may be a bug), is that a whole lot (21) of troop transports then surrender to me from everywhere in the galaxy !

Code: [Select]
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 019 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 017 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Hedwig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 021 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 020 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alfredhaar,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 007 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Yubangtaek,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 005 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Wasserman,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 003 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Camdenmille,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 016 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Kapteyns Star,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 002 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Gropius,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 015 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Fermat,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 013 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alpha Centauri,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 001 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Sameergupta,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 012 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,70 Ophiuchi,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 010 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alfredhaar,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 008 has surrendered

Is that supposeed to happen ?

edit : actually all those transports are full of troops, so i'm now owning some 100 more troops, and most of those are in systems i'm not even aware of
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Beersatron on September 02, 2011, 09:46:24 AM
yep that helped, thanks.

In the end I ended up winning the fight, but I'm very surprised.
At the beginning I had only an engineer brigade on that planet, roaming 150+ installations, looking for anything salvageable.
They ended up awakening some robots so I brought  real troops (4 battalions).
Then, I think some troop transport dropped some reinforcements, total was probably about 10 marine battalions, and they were devastating the limited troops I had brought here

After a tactical retreat, I invaded back  with 2 full regiments, and about 6 months later, I eliminate the last ennemies.
What's really a surprise (and may be a bug), is that a whole lot (21) of troop transports then surrender to me from everywhere in the galaxy !

Code: [Select]
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 019 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 017 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Hedwig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 021 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 020 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alfredhaar,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 007 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Yubangtaek,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 005 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Wasserman,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 003 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Camdenmille,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 016 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Kapteyns Star,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 002 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Gropius,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 015 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Fermat,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 013 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alpha Centauri,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 001 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Sameergupta,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 012 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,70 Ophiuchi,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 010 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alfredhaar,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 008 has surrendered

Is that supposeed to happen ?

edit : actually all those transports are full of troops, so i'm now owning some 100 more troops, and most of those are in systems i'm not even aware of

That's a bug, the only ships that should surrender are the ones within the system of the colony that you captured. And even then, fairly certain this type of NPR shouldn't surrender at all.
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Thibaut on September 02, 2011, 09:50:38 AM
any idea if this has been reported yet ?
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Beersatron on September 02, 2011, 11:25:14 AM
any idea if this has been reported yet ?

I haven't came across it before, wouldn't hurt to report it in the master thread.
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Steve Walmsley on September 04, 2011, 03:38:20 PM
yep that helped, thanks.

In the end I ended up winning the fight, but I'm very surprised.
At the beginning I had only an engineer brigade on that planet, roaming 150+ installations, looking for anything salvageable.
They ended up awakening some robots so I brought  real troops (4 battalions).
Then, I think some troop transport dropped some reinforcements, total was probably about 10 marine battalions, and they were devastating the limited troops I had brought here

After a tactical retreat, I invaded back  with 2 full regiments, and about 6 months later, I eliminate the last ennemies.
What's really a surprise (and may be a bug), is that a whole lot (21) of troop transports then surrender to me from everywhere in the galaxy !

Code: [Select]
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 019 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 017 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Hedwig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 021 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Rettig,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 020 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alfredhaar,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 007 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Yubangtaek,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 005 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Wasserman,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 003 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Camdenmille,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 016 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Kapteyns Star,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 002 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Gropius,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 015 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Fermat,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 013 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alpha Centauri,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 001 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Sameergupta,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 012 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,70 Ophiuchi,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 010 has surrendered
6th April 2055 13:36:26,Alfredhaar,As a result of the population surrender, the troop transport CA Combat Transport 008 has surrendered

Is that supposeed to happen ?

edit : actually all those transports are full of troops, so i'm now owning some 100 more troops, and most of those are in systems i'm not even aware of

I thought this was fixed a while ago and I can't see from the code how it could happen. Are you definitely using v5.52?

Steve
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: Thibaut on September 04, 2011, 06:59:44 PM
yes, this is using 5.52
Title: Re: ground combat
Post by: deoved on September 05, 2011, 07:31:42 AM
Same with me, 5.52