Aurora 4x

VB6 Aurora => VB6 Mechanics => Topic started by: Vanderer on June 03, 2012, 03:15:39 PM

Title: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Vanderer on June 03, 2012, 03:15:39 PM
Hi, i have a small problem with my "flak" ships.

When i set them on Area defense/Final defense in the "combat assignments" windows, they reset to none after 5s.

Impossible to use them, except manually.  Bug, or i miss something?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Erik L on June 03, 2012, 03:33:42 PM
Hi, i have a small problem with my "flak" ships.

When i set them on Area defense/Final defense in the "combat assignments" windows, they reset to none after 5s.

Impossible to use them, except manually.  Bug, or i miss something?

Thanks in advance!

Getting the obvious out of the way... You did click "Set Mode"?
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Vanderer on June 03, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
Yes, off course.   :D
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: TheDeadlyShoe on June 03, 2012, 05:01:54 PM
is automated fire on?
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: wedgebert on June 03, 2012, 06:19:21 PM
Are you sure they're actually set to none? It seems the listbox of PD options doesn't default to the currently selected option, but rather to none. Look down in the textbox in the bottom right where your weapon status, current target and PD mode are displayed. It should say the correct value.

I fell for this a few times as well.
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Nathan_ on June 03, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Post a screenshot and we'll help you figure out what you're messing up(while aurora giggles that you didn't set the secondary lateral safeties correctly for amm mode).

http://imageshack.us/f/69/pdmode.jpg/
These are set for pd mode and I recently had them shoot down 40 missiles automatically for me on final defensive fire.
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Erik L on June 03, 2012, 07:22:56 PM
Post a screenshot and we'll help you figure out what you're messing up(while aurora giggles that you didn't set the secondary lateral safeties correctly for amm mode).

http://imageshack.us/f/69/pdmode.jpg/
These are set for pd mode and I recently had them shoot down 40 missiles automatically for me on final defensive fire.

Complete tangent... why do you have the PD fire control when the main has the same speed?
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Vanderer on June 03, 2012, 07:37:21 PM
Well guys, first, thanks for the help.

@the deadly shoes: My savior!!! When the automated fire is off, it doesnt revert to none.

It is normal? Because it can be a little annoying, especially since i use automated fire a lot.

@Erik To be able to fire with one turret while defending against missile with another perhaps?
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: TheDeadlyShoe on June 03, 2012, 07:45:36 PM
My guess is that the PDs are backups. 50%/8k km has horrendous tohits, even in final defensive fire. But they have the virtue of being size 1.

Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Nathan_ on June 03, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
Complete tangent... why do you have the PD fire control when the main has the same speed?

If I want to split turrets between multiple FCs for point defense rather than needing the range.
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: OokamiNya on June 03, 2012, 09:40:37 PM
Wouldn't you only need one more PD fire control, then? You could keep one gauss cannon on the main fire control and the other on the PD fire control.  You shouldn't need a second PD fire control unless I'm missing something here. . . .
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Nathan_ on June 03, 2012, 10:27:33 PM
for just 2 turrets yea I only needed 1 more, but I put both of them in by habit.
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Beersatron on June 04, 2012, 10:44:38 AM
Automated fire control was implemented for the NPRs and then Steve decided to allow the rest of us to use it with the caveat that it may not work exactly as you think it should.

It does not setup PD missiles correctly, which is why I never use it myself.
Title: Re: Area defense/Final defense dont work.
Post by: Vanderer on June 04, 2012, 01:02:12 PM
Ok, i'll use it only against a great number of small number of small short range vessels then.