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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: Aloriel on August 21, 2013, 11:33:05 PM

Title: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Aloriel on August 21, 2013, 11:33:05 PM
Is there a way I can stop them from this?

I have a populated colony that is actually the homeworld of a hostile race. The fact is, the planet was SO good that the civilians just immediately started traveling to it with colonists (it's Earth-like, 0 colony cost). The world now has about 250k people on it, and each time they bring another colony ship... it's destroyed by defenses. Only after they've dropped off their people, of course. So, it keeps growing, and the companies are losing money.

I could abandon the colony, but that would result in the death of 250k people AND my espionage team.

Ban body gives me an error saying that it can't be used on a populated colony.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Bgreman on August 22, 2013, 01:52:55 AM
Abandon the colony, then ban the body, then clear orders for all civ vessels still trying to go there.  (Then ban the body again for good measure).
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Aloriel on August 22, 2013, 02:44:59 AM
How do you clear orders for population transfer? I don't have any installation orders, if that is what you were referring to.

Also, I can't abandon. As I said, I have an espionage team down there. They require a "colony", and thus when they were placed, it created one.

It may be a mute point here shortly anyway. My main fleet has finished its refit. We're off to war again. That world is the primary target.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Erik L on August 22, 2013, 06:27:34 AM
Set the system as forbidden. I don't recall exactly where. F9 I think.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Aloriel on August 22, 2013, 12:28:15 PM
I'm not seeing it :/ Ban Body is in F9's display, but I don't see a system wide forbid.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Erik L on August 22, 2013, 01:13:27 PM
When I get home I will look for it. For some reason they frown on installing stuff like Aurora on work computers ;)

As an addendum, civilians will tend to avoid systems where gunfire has taken place. The cooling off period is usually around a year for the "fear factor" to decay low enough to make the civs go in again.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Erik L on August 22, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
When I get home I will look for it. For some reason they frown on installing stuff like Aurora on work computers ;)

As an addendum, civilians will tend to avoid systems where gunfire has taken place. The cooling off period is usually around a year for the "fear factor" to decay low enough to make the civs go in again.

The thing I am thinking of is the danger factor. Systems where ships get blown up, hostile aliens, warfare, etc increase the danger factor and the civs avoid it. You could also use the ban body on the single planet in question and they should respect that. Especially if there is 4000 missiles floating about.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Aloriel on August 22, 2013, 11:32:40 PM
When I try to ban it, it tells me that you cannot ban a planet that has a population. It actually said this when I had 0 people on it too.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: MarcAFK on August 23, 2013, 12:26:02 AM
Remove the espionage team using the teams/academy tab of the population and production menu, abandon the colony, then just use spacemaster to put an additional 250,000 pop on whatever godforsaken rock the lousy colonists came from in the first place. Then if you really want to repair all the damage use spacemaster to increase your wealth enough to subsidize the shipping companies for their losses.
Roleplay that their insurance has come in.
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Aloriel on August 23, 2013, 04:08:57 AM
Actually, it has officially become a mute point. I just took the planet!

So, now I have a population 250k of humans on the same planet as 2 billion Cianjur. Two "colonies"... it's weird.

Do they ever merge?
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Conscript Gary on August 23, 2013, 04:59:58 AM
Nope, it's the same way when you use genetic manipulation to make new subspecies. Each species/race gets its own colony, and no there's no simple way to move installations from one to the other overground
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Aloriel on August 23, 2013, 01:13:38 PM
I see. That's unfortunate. It even requires a separate governor. :/
Title: Re: Stopping civilian colony ships from going to a populated colony
Post by: Bgreman on August 23, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
How do you clear orders for population transfer? I don't have any installation orders, if that is what you were referring to.

Also, I can't abandon. As I said, I have an espionage team down there. They require a "colony", and thus when they were placed, it created one.

It may be a mute point here shortly anyway. My main fleet has finished its refit. We're off to war again. That world is the primary target.

This is late, but to clear the orders for the civilian colony ships, open the Shipping Lines screen (Ctrl + L), then click the colony ships in question and press the 'Clear Orders' button.  The colonists they are carrying vanish into the ether and they return to the nearest trade center.  You can SM the lost colonists back onto their source body if you want.