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VB6 Aurora => Aurora Bugs => Topic started by: idahobeef on August 17, 2007, 12:13:57 PM

Title: Screen problem
Post by: idahobeef on August 17, 2007, 12:13:57 PM

OK, for some reason I am seeing this funky screen. Since I have never had this problem before on my computer I badly need help ideas about this. Thanks, Damon

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Post by: Erik L on August 17, 2007, 12:23:56 PM

On the main window bar, try hitting Reset Windows Positions on the Miscellaneous menu.

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Post by: idahobeef on August 17, 2007, 12:26:41 PM

Hey Erik, thanks. I tried that, no joy. ALL my screens look like that. I can only see about 2/3rds of all screens. Hmm. I have no clue on what to do, argh. Damon

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Post by: Erik L on August 17, 2007, 12:32:49 PM

What is your screen resolution? I think the minimum is 1280x1024.

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Post by: idahobeef on August 17, 2007, 12:34:49 PM

That's it...my GOD. I cannot see this dinky stuff.....haha. Thanks for letting me have some of your time. Damon

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Post by: Erik L on August 17, 2007, 12:37:46 PM

Now we just need to wait for Steve to get blind and go to a lower resolution

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Post by: idahobeef on August 17, 2007, 12:42:26 PM

I hear that. Umm, I am working on a tech list right now. Where do you want me to stick it? It will be a large JPEG. Thanks, Damon

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Post by: Erik L on August 17, 2007, 01:00:09 PM

You can email it to me, and I'll host it here. No need to chew up your bandwidth on it.

Title: Certain Screens not showing up.
Post by: Ancient History on November 01, 2007, 01:25:22 PM

Hi,

I had the 3/4 screen issue but was able to solve by changing resolution.  However, I discovered a new problem.  For some reason the Task Group, Officer Corp, and Class Design screens are not shoing up.  I get the little tab for them down at the bottom of the Windows screen but they do not appear on the desktop.  I've tried repeated clicking on the tab and it looks like the window may be appearing off to the right of the desktop.  However, I can't seem to get at it.  Any ideas what may be causing this or possible remedies?

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Post by: Erik L on November 01, 2007, 01:41:50 PM

Did you reset the window locations?

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Post by: Ancient History on November 01, 2007, 01:57:11 PM

Hmmm.... how do I do that?

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Post by: Ancient History on November 01, 2007, 02:08:18 PM

Never mind.  I figured it out.  Thanks.

Title: off screen tabs
Post by: ocie on November 07, 2007, 12:09:05 PM

Ok, i have the same problem i think. my commander screen is off screen to the top-left. when i try to move it, i can't. and the res is set higher than required. reset windows position does no good, any ideas?javascript:emoticon(':?')
Confused

Title: Re: off screen tabs
Post by: Erik L on November 07, 2007, 01:11:51 PM

Quote from: "ocie"

Ok, i have the same problem i think. my commander screen is off screen to the top-left. when i try to move it, i can't. and the res is set higher than required. reset windows position does no good, any ideas?javascript:emoticon(':?')
Confused

That one is tough. I don't think Steve made it "sizable", so the bottom rows of buttons are hidden.

Title: Re: off screen tabs
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 08, 2007, 04:07:49 AM

Quote from: "ocie"

Ok, i have the same problem i think. my commander screen is off screen to the top-left. when i try to move it, i can't. and the res is set higher than required. reset windows position does no good, any ideas?javascript:emoticon(':?')
Confused

Not sure why this is happening. Reset Windows modifies the WindowPosition table, setting all the Left and Top values to zero. If you can open up the database, you could try changing these values manually.

Steve

Title: screen problems
Post by: ocie on November 08, 2007, 03:49:35 PM

i dont have the password anymore

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Post by: Strohm on February 06, 2008, 02:19:22 PM

I've a similar problem

I've just started and I can't see the entire system generation and display window
I can scroll right & left but not up and down so the buttons at the bottom of the screen are unreachable.  (and I can't scroll completely to the right either nor can i change the size of the window)

I haven't tried any of the other screens yet (one problem at a time)
Am  I missing something stupidly obvious?

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Post by: Erik L on February 06, 2008, 06:10:25 PM

Quote from: "Strohm"

I've a similar problem

I've just started and I can't see the entire system generation and display window
I can scroll right & left but not up and down so the buttons at the bottom of the screen are unreachable.  (and I can't scroll completely to the right either nor can i change the size of the window)

I haven't tried any of the other screens yet (one problem at a time)
Am  I missing something stupidly obvious?

On the resizable windows, there is usually a large black up/down arrow pair. Otherwise, you'll probably need to try 1280x1024...

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Post by: Strohm on February 07, 2008, 07:56:50 AM

no big black arrow
and I think I'm at 1280x1024 already

Hmmmm

also since installation all my pull down menues in every program have turned gray


must be getting old  

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Post by: Steve Walmsley on February 09, 2008, 05:28:13 AM

Quote from: "Strohm"

I've a similar problem

I've just started and I can't see the entire system generation and display window
I can scroll right & left but not up and down so the buttons at the bottom of the screen are unreachable.  (and I can't scroll completely to the right either nor can i change the size of the window)

I haven't tried any of the other screens yet (one problem at a time)
Am  I missing something stupidly obvious?

It sounds like you might be running at 1024x768. Assuming you are using XP, right-click on the XP desktop, select properties, click the settings tab and see what the screen resolution is set to.

Steve

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Post by: rob on February 09, 2008, 11:09:40 AM

This seems like the right place to ask about screen res at 1440 by 900. As I have a monitor that is designed for this setting I end up with screens off the left side of the display area and that can't be accessed. The drivers that acer has for my display don't go over 1440 by 900. This leads me to beg the question, can this game have that setting added with out much trouble?

rob

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Post by: Steve Walmsley on February 09, 2008, 01:06:17 PM

Quote from: "rob"

This seems like the right place to ask about screen res at 1440 by 900. As I have a monitor that is designed for this setting I end up with screens off the left side of the display area and that can't be accessed. The drivers that acer has for my display don't go over 1440 by 900. This leads me to beg the question, can this game have that setting added with out much trouble?

1440 should be easily wide enough but the 900 height might cause occasional problems. If a window is off the side of the screen, try closing all windows but the main menu bar and then use the Reset Window Positions menu option on the Miscellaneous menu. Let me know if that helps.

Steve

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Post by: Strohm on February 15, 2008, 11:52:39 AM

wow

at 1280x1024 my poor 45 year old eyes just can't hack it!

can I do it until I need glasses?  

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Post by: whateley23 on March 31, 2008, 02:16:39 PM

i'm having the same problem. unfortunately, my laptop doesn't allow for a resolution higher than 1024x768. does this mean that i'll just have to wait until other resolutions are supported?

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Post by: Haegan2005 on March 31, 2008, 07:32:09 PM

are there video drivers available that let you increase the size of your desktop? I think it was called a virtual desktop? While your display size does not change, you can scroll off of the immediate screen.

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Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 03, 2008, 05:12:15 AM

Quote from: "whateley23"

i'm having the same problem. unfortunately, my laptop doesn't allow for a resolution higher than 1024x768. does this mean that i'll just have to wait until other resolutions are supported?

I have been looking at the possibility of reducing the height of the windows a little so they will fit on a laptop resolution of 1440x900 but unfortunately I can't see me ever being able to reduce both height and width of the major windows to 1024x768.

Steve

Title: screen problem, still
Post by: ocie on April 17, 2008, 06:15:27 AM

As I said before, the economics screen is off the top/left of the screen and i can not get it back. All other screens work fine. I have run res at 1280-1024 with no resolution and have deleted game and did a complete re-install without fixing the problem. HELP

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Post by: James Patten on April 17, 2008, 06:25:05 AM

Under Miscellaneous is a Reset Window Positions.  You may have to do it several times.  The window you want to reset must be closed.

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Post by: schroeam on April 22, 2008, 04:48:20 AM

I've ran into this problem several times (usually when Steve releases a new version).  All I have had to do is uncheck the "Recall windows positions" in the game details, save the changes to that game, and then select that game.  The windows should then all reset to the middle of the screen.  Hope this helps.

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Post by: Charlie Beeler on April 22, 2008, 09:05:16 AM

Just make sure that you do this with all windows closed.  From my experience, if a window is open it doesn't always reset.

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Post by: whateley23 on May 05, 2008, 10:29:25 PM

Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"

Quote from: "whateley23"

i'm having the same problem. unfortunately, my laptop doesn't allow for a resolution higher than 1024x768. does this mean that i'll just have to wait until other resolutions are supported?

I have been looking at the possibility of reducing the height of the windows a little so they will fit on a laptop resolution of 1440x900 but unfortunately I can't see me ever being able to reduce both height and width of the major windows to 1024x768.

Steve

slider bars aren't an option?

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Post by: Steve Walmsley on May 06, 2008, 08:43:20 AM

Quote from: "whateley23"

slider bars aren't an option?

I have given this another go. In v3.1, the Fleet Moves window has been setup as a test with optional scrollbars. If you click the Activate Scrollbars option, the window borders resize to the screen resolution and scrollbars appear at the right and bottom. Using these scrollbars you can move the controls around so you can access the whole fleet moves window. It actually works fairly well, although it doesn't work at all unless you are at low resolution so I programmed this while working in 1024x768 instead of 1600x1200. I have gained a new appreciation for higher resolutions

Its quite a lot of work so I'll see how useful players think this is before modifying any more windows.

Steve

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Post by: Shinanygnz on May 06, 2008, 12:56:35 PM

If it lets me play around with Aurora on my work laptop whilst stuck in a hotel on a training or disaster recovery exercise, then it'll fall in the "bloody useful" category.
Thanks for the effort.
Stephen

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Post by: Steve Walmsley on May 07, 2008, 05:12:42 AM

Quote from: "Shinanygnz"

If it lets me play around with Aurora on my work laptop whilst stuck in a hotel on a training or disaster recovery exercise, then it'll fall in the "bloody useful" category.
Thanks for the effort.

No problem. I ended up creating something a little more flexible than I first intended. It should be able to cope with different resolutions and will only add scrollbars if required. Some laptop resolutions may be wide enough but not deep enough so they should only get the vertical scrollbar.

Steve

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Post by: whateley23 on May 09, 2008, 11:04:52 PM

thank you. i look forward to getting a chance to play it now.

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Post by: Steiners on August 15, 2008, 11:09:31 AM

yeah my max screen resolution is 1280x800 and some windows are chopped down... no way to fix it temporary?

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Post by: Erik L on August 15, 2008, 01:56:49 PM

There is a post Steve made with a link to a utility that expands the desktop resolution beyond the screen resolution

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Post by: Steiners on August 15, 2008, 06:05:07 PM

Quote from: "Erik Luken"

There is a post Steve made with a link to a utility that expands the desktop resolution beyond the screen resolution

sorry for bothering but searched through the forum and can't seem to find it.
can you help me?

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Post by: Erik L on August 15, 2008, 09:12:17 PM

It's in this post
http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?t=987 (http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?t=987)

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Post by: Steiners on August 16, 2008, 06:10:24 AM

ok i tried it and it works pretty good at scrolling but... the problem persist!
i can scroll down the desktop the the bottom of the window but scroll or not scroll the bottom part of the windows are chopped can't be seen... i think i must buy a new monitor for my desktop just for aurora

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Post by: Hawkeye on September 20, 2008, 12:34:07 AM

Quote from: "Steiners"

yeah my max screen resolution is 1280x800 and some windows are chopped down... no way to fix it temporary?

I don?t know if this will work with your desktop/laptop.
I have an acer with an ATI mobiliy Radeon x1600 and in the screen where I set the resolution I click on "erweitert" (enhanced, extended or something like that in english) then I open the "Monitor" tab. There is a checkbox that says: "Modi ausblenden, die von diesem Monitor nicht angezeigt werden" (do not show modes, that are not supported by this monitor).
Once I uncheck it, I can set my laptop up to 2048 x 1536 with the screen scrolling up/down and left/right, whenever I move the mousepointer over the edge of the screen.
That way, I am now able to run aurora with no problem on my 1280 x 800 laptop

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Post by: Shinanygnz on September 20, 2008, 05:45:10 AM

Quote from: "Hawkeye"

Quote from: "Steiners"

yeah my max screen resolution is 1280x800 and some windows are chopped down... no way to fix it temporary?

I don?t know if this will work with your desktop/laptop.
I have an acer with an ATI mobiliy Radeon x1600 and in the screen where I set the resolution I click on "erweitert" (enhanced, extended or something like that in english) then I open the "Monitor" tab. There is a checkbox that says: "Modi ausblenden, die von diesem Monitor nicht angezeigt werden" (do not show modes, that are not supported by this monitor).
Once I uncheck it, I can set my laptop up to 2048 x 1536 with the screen scrolling up/down and left/right, whenever I move the mousepointer over the edge of the screen.
That way, I am now able to run aurora with no problem on my 1280 x 800 laptop

Just tried this on my work laptop and it works fine.  Cool.  Never knew you could do that, but then I spend most of my time with server O/S rather than client.  Thanks.
Stephen

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Post by: Steve Walmsley on September 21, 2008, 04:46:06 AM

Quote from: "Hawkeye"

Quote from: "Steiners"

yeah my max screen resolution is 1280x800 and some windows are chopped down... no way to fix it temporary?

I don?t know if this will work with your desktop/laptop.
I have an acer with an ATI mobiliy Radeon x1600 and in the screen where I set the resolution I click on "erweitert" (enhanced, extended or something like that in english) then I open the "Monitor" tab. There is a checkbox that says: "Modi ausblenden, die von diesem Monitor nicht angezeigt werden" (do not show modes, that are not supported by this monitor).
Once I uncheck it, I can set my laptop up to 2048 x 1536 with the screen scrolling up/down and left/right, whenever I move the mousepointer over the edge of the screen.
That way, I am now able to run aurora with no problem on my 1280 x 800 laptop

Thanks for posting this. I knew this type of thing was possible as I did it myself long ago (in Windows 3.1 I think ) but I couldn't remember how to do it.

Steve

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Post by: Hawkeye on September 21, 2008, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"

Thanks for posting this. I knew this type of thing was possible as I did it myself long ago (in Windows 3.1 I think :)

It took me several hours to figure it out. I was looking everywhere.
Who would have thought it is a simple checkbox.

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Post by: schroeam on September 21, 2008, 10:45:46 PM

What OS are you operating?  I can do this on my laptop running XP, but not the one running Vista.

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Post by: Hawkeye on September 22, 2008, 09:37:29 AM

Yep, XP, I avoid Vista like the plague, and will not buy a new pc with this POS preinstalled (I simply refuse to be a Microsoft Alpha Tester. It?s bad enough to be a Beta tester with XP)

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: schroeam on September 30, 2008, 11:15:52 PM

Steve,

Any chance for more scrollbars in v3.2???

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: SteveAlt on October 03, 2008, 01:15:03 PM

Quote from: "adradjool"

Steve,

Any chance for more scrollbars in v3.2???

Did the scrollbars on the Fleet window work OK?

Steve

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: schroeam on October 03, 2008, 04:58:12 PM

worked great, thanks.  If the other screens had the same option that would be awesome.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: Sotak246 on November 25, 2008, 01:38:53 PM

Scroll bars would be great.  In the next several months most of my "free" time on a computer will be on my laptop. So,  I installed Aurora3.2, and was dissapointed to find out my laptop only goes up to 1440x900. This means that several important screens are cut off right at or or before the last rows of buttons.  If you ever have the time to add luxury items into Aurora I vote to make sliders first.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: Erik L on November 25, 2008, 02:18:16 PM

There is a link (I think in this thread) to a utility that allows your desktop to be larger than your resolution. My laptop is also 1440x900, and that bites for Aurora. But with that program I can see all the extra buttons and things.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: Sotak246 on November 28, 2008, 09:39:53 PM

If you are talking about the link to the Sdesk program, I tried that but still couldn't get the entire window to show.  Maybe, I was doing something wrong, big possibility since I am not the most computer literate person in the world.  I try spending some more time on it.
Thanks, Mark

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: Erik L on November 28, 2008, 11:51:02 PM

SDesk pops up a tiny box which shows your virtual screen size. I don't recall if you need to drag the dashed box around in there, or if the mouse on the edge of the screen with move the window.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: James Patten on November 29, 2008, 07:04:19 PM

I too was unable to get Sdesk to work with Aurora, and I am quite computer literate.  I ended up making my 1400x900 laptop display more by going into my video card's setup software and finding a box which says something along the lines of "show all available display formats, even if this computer doesn't support them" and checking it (I had to look quite a while to find it, and wasn't in an obvious place.  I may have needed to go in as administrator on my laptop.).  Now my computer displays all kinds of display sizes, which scroll off the edge of the screen.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: Sotak246 on November 29, 2008, 10:16:44 PM

Thanks, That gives me someplace to start from.  I should have some time over the next couple of nights to play around with it and hopefully get it working.
Mark

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: welchbloke on December 01, 2008, 08:03:02 PM

Anybody used SDesk with Vista and Aurora?
I'm away from my laptop at the moment so I can't install it and try for myself.  If SDesk is usable with Vista and Aurora then my free time will sudenly disappear  

Welchbloke

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: Sotak246 on December 01, 2008, 08:10:47 PM

I couldn't get Sdesk to work with aurora on Vista, but I'm not very computer literate.  I did find a program via google called ResizeEnable that let me change the size of the windows in vista. It works with Aurora fairly well.

Mark

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: welchbloke on December 01, 2008, 08:21:50 PM

Thanks,
I shall give it a try when I get home.

Welchbloke

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: welchbloke on December 08, 2008, 05:44:08 PM

Thanks for the pointer to ResizeEnable.  Its working well for me and I'm now slowly building my Aurora familiarity up again.  Stand by for lots of questions  


Welchbloke

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: alanwebber on February 17, 2009, 03:05:38 AM

How did you get ResizeEnable to work with Vista? I just bought a new laptop where I can't change the screen resolution from 1024x800. I downloaded both Sdesk and the RE but I still can't get the full screens to display properly.

Any help will be much appreciated

Alan

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: welchbloke on February 17, 2009, 02:37:30 PM

Quote from: "alanwebber"

How did you get ResizeEnable to work with Vista? I just bought a new laptop where I can't change the screen resolution from 1024x800. I downloaded both Sdesk and the RE but I still can't get the full screens to display properly.

Any help will be much appreciated

Alan

I didn't do anything special, I just download RE and ran it.  It allows you to grab the edge of windows and drag to any size you want.  The only non-standard configuration on my laptop is that I have UAC turned off.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: alanwebber on February 18, 2009, 08:23:47 AM

I'll give it another try. All that happened when I used it before was that the screens expanded to show the buttons and then snapped back to the original size. By the way, what is UAC?

Thanks for your help.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: jfelten on February 18, 2009, 08:33:42 AM

Quote from: "alanwebber"

By the way, what is UAC?

A great evil that is sucking thousands of man years and the essence of life itself out of the human race.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control)

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: alanwebber on February 18, 2009, 09:28:05 AM

Thanks. I don't think that's the problem. Looks like I'll end up using my old laptop with Windows XP for playing Aurora. The price of progress.

alan

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: welchbloke on February 18, 2009, 11:29:46 AM

Quote from: "jfelten"

Quote from: "alanwebber"

By the way, what is UAC?

A great evil that is sucking thousands of man years and the essence of life itself out of the human race.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control)

 UAC certainly sucks

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: jfelten on February 18, 2009, 11:30:16 AM

Quote from: "alanwebber"

Thanks. I don't think that's the problem. Looks like I'll end up using my old laptop with Windows XP for playing Aurora. The price of progress.

alan

I don't use Vista so I'm not familiar with your specific problem nor can I replicate it, but you could try running a vm and see if that works around your problem.  If nothing else, you can then scroll the entire desktop.  

http://www.virtualbox.org/ (http://www.virtualbox.org/)

If you try it, make sure you install the guest additions.  Then the vm will automatically scale its display resolution as you resize the main windows.

Title: Re: Screen problem
Post by: alanwebber on February 19, 2009, 07:10:48 AM

Quote from: "jfelten"

Quote from: "alanwebber"

Thanks. I don't think that's the problem. Looks like I'll end up using my old laptop with Windows XP for playing Aurora. The price of progress.

alan

I don't use Vista so I'm not familiar with your specific problem nor can I replicate it, but you could try running a vm and see if that works around your problem.  If nothing else, you can then scroll the entire desktop.  

http://www.virtualbox.org/ (http://www.virtualbox.org/)

If you try it, make sure you install the guest additions.  Then the vm will automatically scale its display resolution as you resize the main windows.

Thanks - I'll give it a try.

Alan