Aurora 4x
VB6 Aurora => Bureau of Ship Design => Topic started by: CharonJr on March 27, 2014, 01:57:04 PM
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Hi,
I think I reached the mid-game phase in my latest game here and would love to have some feedback for my currently fielded/planed (mainly accomodations for the new beam fighter) combat fleets.
After having just conquered one of the 3 NPRs in my game and gotten some laser tech (2x range, 2x damage) it seems like a good time to put a bit more emphasis on beam weapons than before, engine tech is at IC fusion atm.
My fleets are carrier battlegroups (CBG), supported by 2 tanker/ammo ships, 1 fairly stealthy passive sensor ship and 1 active sensor ship, with the stealth ship scouting ahead before the main fleet enters any system. The main fleets purpose is to simply overwhelm the opposition or otherwise stay out of the system, due to this stealth is no concern there.
The main tactic is launching bombers guarded by gauss fighters and laser FACs, guided by sensor fighters, while the fleet follows more slowly with no active sensors except for very short ranges (R1 - not that it will really matter with those huge termal emissions). The bombers are to engage enemy major ships/planet defenses, then head back to the fleet to refuel/rearm and stay with the fleet afterwards to provide a very heavy alpha strike.
Overall each battlegroup of the current revision of the Prussian Navy consists of 1 flag carrier, 2 carriers, 2 light carriers, 4 escort carriers, 4 missile destroyers and 4 escort destroyers (1 missile, 3 gauss). At the moment there are 2 active CBGs with a 3rd currently under construction/training:
Ships:
Graf Zeppelin Mk3.2 class Flag-Träger 24 000 tons 398 Crew 4044.2 BP TCS 480 TH 3000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 6-74 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 9 PPV 0
Maint Life 1.14 Years MSP 979 AFR 495% IFR 6.9% 1YR 768 5YR 11525 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 51
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 8000 tons Magazine 680
Daimler Stufe5 500M (6) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 700 000 Litres Range 28.3 billion km (52 days at full power)
Adler9-583/162/64 (113) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Siemens S28 168-R120 (1) GPS 16800 Range 168.7m km Resolution 120
Siemens S28 61-R16 (1) GPS 2240 Range 61.6m km Resolution 16
Siemens S28 15-R1 (1) GPS 140 Range 15.4m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Role: Flagship, backup sensors, carries 2 Ju-88 heavy bombers and 4 I-109C gauss fighters - 1 in each CBG
Bismarck Mk3.2 class Träger 16 000 tons 239 Crew 2327.8 BP TCS 320 TH 2000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 4-56 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 5 PPV 0
Maint Life 1.35 Years MSP 509 AFR 365% IFR 5.1% 1YR 300 5YR 4497 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 12
Hangar Deck Capacity 6000 tons Magazine 510
Daimler Stufe5 500M (4) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 350 000 Litres Range 33.8 billion km (62 days at full power)
Adler9-583/162/64 (85) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Role: Bomber carrier, 2 Ju-88 heavy bombers - 2 in each CBG
Scharnhorst Mk3.2 class Leichter Träger 8 000 tons 138 Crew 1166.8 BP TCS 160 TH 1000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 2-35 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 5 PPV 0
Maint Life 3.24 Years MSP 501 AFR 93% IFR 1.3% 1YR 72 5YR 1077 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 8
Hangar Deck Capacity 3000 tons Magazine 340
Daimler Stufe5 500M (2) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 395 000 Litres Range 19.8 billion km (36 days at full power)
Adler9-583/162/64 (57) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Role: Light carrier, 1 Ju-88 heavy bomber - 2 in each CBG
Konigsberg Mk3.2 class Begleit-Träger 8 000 tons 144 Crew 1151.8 BP TCS 160 TH 1000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 2-35 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 5 PPV 0
Maint Life 3.24 Years MSP 504 AFR 91% IFR 1.3% 1YR 72 5YR 1085 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 41
Hangar Deck Capacity 4000 tons
Daimler Stufe5 500M (2) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 250 000 Litres Range 12.5 billion km (23 days at full power)
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Basically a modified Scharnhorst (no magazine, very low fuel, but the 2 tankers are travelling at fleet speed so this is not really an issue, +1000t hangar space to house 4 of the new FW-190 heavy fighters while still providing hangar space for 12 I-109C gauss fighters and 4 sensor fighters).
Role: Escort carrier, provide cover/long range sensors for the bombers/fleet with its fighters - 4 in each CBG
Blücher Mk3.2 class Raketen-Zerstörer 8 000 tons 124 Crew 1346.3 BP TCS 160 TH 1000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 2-35 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 4 PPV 49.5
Maint Life 2.63 Years MSP 505 AFR 106% IFR 1.5% 1YR 103 5YR 1546 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 0
Magazine 660
Daimler Stufe5 500M (2) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 505 000 Litres Range 25.3 billion km (46 days at full power)
60cm 3fach-Rak-Werfer 900s (25) Missile Size 6 Rate of Fire 900
AEG S28 FC73-R16 (1) Range 73.9m km Resolution 16
AEG S28 202-R120 (1) Range 202.4m km Resolution 120
Adler9-583/162/64 (110) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
15min reload time should be no real problem due to the heavy overall firepower of the fleet, currently my reload tech (R4) prevents me from going down to 25% size launchers
Role: Missile destroyer, engage enemy FACs at range and provide additional firepower for alpha strikes once the bombers are refueled/rearmed after their first mission - 4 in each CBG
Deutschland Mk3.2 class Begleit-Zerstörer 8 000 tons 248 Crew 1438.8 BP TCS 160 TH 1000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 2-35 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 4 PPV 49
Maint Life 2.36 Years MSP 506 AFR 113% IFR 1.6% 1YR 124 5YR 1856 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 0
Magazine 389
Daimler Stufe5 500M (2) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 510 000 Litres Range 25.5 billion km (47 days at full power)
10cm Rak-Werfer 10s (49) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 10
AEG S28 FC18-R1 (2) Range 18.5m km Resolution 1
Sperber-700/60/119 (389) Speed: 70 000 km/s End: 1.4m Range: 6m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 396/238/119
Siemens S28 15-R1 (1) GPS 140 Range 15.4m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
The sensor is not strictly neccessary, but it IMO it just feels bad to have escort destroyers without their own sensor
Role: Soften up huge enemy missile swarms at range to allow the PD a reasonable chance to deal with the rest - 1 in each CBG
Hipper Mk3.2 class Begleit-Zerstörer 8 000 tons 190 Crew 1548.8 BP TCS 160 TH 1000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 2-35 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 4 PPV 65.28
Maint Life 1.87 Years MSP 508 AFR 121% IFR 1.7% 1YR 185 5YR 2772 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 0
Daimler Stufe5 500M (2) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 595 000 Litres Range 29.8 billion km (55 days at full power)
Quad Rheinmetall Gauss-Vierling 67/30 Turm20 (3x16) Range 30 000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Telefunken 24-20000 (2) Max Range: 48 000 km TS: 20000 km/s 79 58 38 17 0 0 0 0 0 0
Siemens S28 15-R1 (1) GPS 140 Range 15.4m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Role: Protect the fleet from enemy missiles at PB range with their quad-gauss turrets - 3 in each CBG
Fighters/bombers:
I-109C class Abfangjäger 500 tons 10 Crew 167 BP TCS 10 TH 200 EM 0
20000 km/s Armour 1-5 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 4
Maint Life 0 Years MSP 0 AFR 100% IFR 1.4% 1YR 32 5YR 480 Max Repair 50 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months Spare Berths 8
BMW Stufe5 100M-V250 (2) Power 100 Fuel Use 484.22% Signature 100 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres Range 0.7 billion km (10 hours at full power)
Rheinmetall Gauss-Vierling 67/30 (1x4) Range 30 000km TS: 20000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 67% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Telefunken 32-20000J (1) Max Range: 64 000 km TS: 20000 km/s 84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0
This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes
I am not sure if final defensive fire will benefit from the longer range of the FC on this one, but it would make some sense.
Role: Interceptor, guard the bombers on their way to their targets and guard the fleet - 16 in each CBG
Fw-190C2 class Schwerer Jäger 2 000 tons 13 Crew 689.8 BP TCS 40 TH 500 EM 0
12500 km/s Armour 8-14 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 10
Maint Life 0.32 Years MSP 43 AFR 160% IFR 2.2% 1YR 133 5YR 1989 Max Repair 192 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months Spare Berths 8
BMW Stufe5 100M-V250 (5) Power 100 Fuel Use 484.22% Signature 100 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 75 000 Litres Range 1.4 billion km (30 hours at full power)
Krupp 31cm K4 FUV-Achs-Strahler (1) Range 256 000km TS: 12500 km/s Power 25-4 RM 5 ROF 35 25 25 25 25 25 20 17 15 13 12
Telefunken 128-10000 (1) Max Range: 256 000 km TS: 10000 km/s 96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
Mannesmann Reaktor Stufe3 P1.2 (1) Total Power Output 1.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Mannesmann Reaktor Stufe3 P3 (1) Total Power Output 3 Armour 0 Exp 5%
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Role: Heavy fighter, intercept enemy beam FACs, finish off wounded enemy ships and provide support for planetary invasions - 4 in each CBG
Ju-88/3.2 class Schwerer Bomber 3 000 tons 7 Crew 580.2 BP TCS 60 TH 600 EM 0
10000 km/s Armour 2-18 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 40.5
Maint Life 0.12 Years MSP 12 AFR 720% IFR 10% 1YR 99 5YR 1487 Max Repair 56 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months Spare Berths 3
Magazine 270
BMW Stufe5 100M-V250 (6) Power 100 Fuel Use 484.22% Signature 100 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 60 000 Litres Range 0.7 billion km (20 hours at full power)
60cm Werfer-Batterie (45) Missile Size 6 Hangar Reload 45 minutes MF Reload 7.5 hours
AEG S28 202-R120 (1) Range 202.4m km Resolution 120
Adler9-583/162/64 (45) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Role: Heavy bomber, workhorse of the CBG, engage enemy capital ships/planetary defenses at range, fire a volley of up 360 missiles by themself, 460 together with the Blüchers - 8 in each CBG
Any comments are appreciated.
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Initial comment: Why 4 different carrier models with very similar roles and identical speed?
I would probably have expanded a few more slipways and fielded maximum two different designs instead of trying to manage the complexity of 4 different hangar sizes and how to fit different flightgroups into different Carriers.
If I fielded escort carriers I would also operate them in an escort carrier role ( cover the fleet train, oilers and slower troop transports) instead of the same role as a fast fleet carrier.
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Maybe I should have mentioned that this is a 1,000mTN start with lots of the tech from salvaging. Essentially those carriers are designs that were needed before. First I needed a small bomber carrier for fighter sized bombers, later a carrier without magazines for gauss PD fighters followed by a larger bomber carrier and finally a flagship, while building new naval yards and doing expansions. This is just the 13th year in game, I simply havent had the time or yards to consolidate the designs, but once the conquered yards are fully operational this will change.
In addition I want to have 3 complete fleets before essentially shutting down most of my yards for major expansions (only 2 yards above 8kt here at the moment and even getting just those smaller yards operational prevented me from doing anything except largely focussing on them, without the salvagers I would be still at ion engines at best).
Since I like my fleet train to be kept with the fleet the escorts speed is only wasted while guarding troop transports. Beam fighter carrier might have been a better designation for them, but since those fighters job mainly is guarding the fleet, escort does not sound overly wrong to me.
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the main thing that concerns me is the low msp on the capital ships, especially for vessels hosting parasites.
The Bismark in particular is in a bad place, having 500 msp to a 250 repair max with an IFR of 5% means of a given group of Bismarks some will almost certainly maint-fail before the year is up.
The general poor reliability will also make training difficult and expensive in terms of additional MSP that need to be produced and used up.
p.s. protip
If you put all the - say - bomber parasites in a given CBG in the same group in Naval Organization you can use that to quickly launch them all given the tools in the NO tab.
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Thx, good find about the MSP, since I havent had to train a 3.2 ship yet, I have not run into the training problem and thought I could get away with 2x max repair and additional supplies within the fleet.
Exchange 1 armor for more MSP since the ships should be fairly well protected except for the occasional leaker anyway?
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yeah that should work.
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Due to better turret tracking speed and the conquered yards being at 80% efficiency a couple of improved/consolidated designs:
Graf Zeppelin G3.2 class Flag-Träger 40 000 tons 720 Crew 6309.2 BP TCS 800 TH 5000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 6-104 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 36 PPV 0
Maint Life 3.04 Years MSP 3549 AFR 355% IFR 4.9% 1YR 576 5YR 8645 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 0
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 14000 tons Magazine 680
Daimler Stufe5 500M (10) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 3 695 000 Litres Range 37.0 billion km (68 days at full power)
Adler9-583/162/64 (113) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Siemens S28 168-R120 (1) GPS 16800 Range 168.7m km Resolution 120
Siemens S28 61-R16 (1) GPS 2240 Range 61.6m km Resolution 16
Siemens S28 15-R1 (1) GPS 140 Range 15.4m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
New FAC loadout: 2 Ju-88 bombers, 2 FW-190 beam FAC, 2 I-110C gauss interceptors
Bismarck G3.2 class Träger 36 000 tons 610 Crew 5204 BP TCS 720 TH 4500 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 5-97 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 30 PPV 0
Maint Life 3.88 Years MSP 2710 AFR 345% IFR 4.8% 1YR 285 5YR 4276 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 1
Hangar Deck Capacity 14000 tons Magazine 680
Daimler Stufe5 500M (9) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 3 075 000 Litres Range 34.2 billion km (63 days at full power)
Adler9-583/162/64 (113) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Basically a Graf Zeppelin without the flag bridge and the sensors, can be build at the same yard without retooling, same FAC loadout
Konigsberg G3.2 class Begleit-Träger 16 000 tons 250 Crew 2328.8 BP TCS 320 TH 2000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 4-56 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 6 PPV 0
Maint Life 1.47 Years MSP 546 AFR 341% IFR 4.7% 1YR 283 5YR 4238 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 33
Hangar Deck Capacity 7500 tons
Daimler Stufe5 500M (4) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 105 000 Litres Range 27.6 billion km (51 days at full power)
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
New loadout: 3 sensor fighters, 1 FW-190 beam FAC, 2 I-110C gauss interceptors
Blücher G3.2 class Raketen-Kreuzer 20 000 tons 295 Crew 3307.4 BP TCS 400 TH 2500 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 3-65 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 9 PPV 118.8
Maint Life 1.79 Years MSP 930 AFR 355% IFR 4.9% 1YR 361 5YR 5410 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 2
Magazine 1720
Daimler Stufe5 500M (5) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 310 000 Litres Range 26.2 billion km (48 days at full power)
60cm 3fach-Rak-Werfer 900s (60) Missile Size 6 Rate of Fire 900
AEG S28 202-R120 (2) Range 202.4m km Resolution 120
AEG S28 FC73-R16 (3) Range 73.9m km Resolution 16
Adler9-583/162/64 (287) Speed: 58 300 km/s End: 46.2m Range: 161.8m km WH: 9 Size: 6 TH: 213/128/64
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Just a scaled up Mk3.2 (roughly 2.5x) with a bit more armor and 1 additional FC vs. enemy FACs
Since the other yards are still needing additional tonnage the Hipper/Deutschland stay at 8k for now, but the Hipper got an improved turret/FC and I traded some range for armor since I found some spoilers inside a nebula.
Hipper Mk3.3 class Begleit-Zerstörer 8 000 tons 181 Crew 1603.8 BP TCS 160 TH 1000 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 4-35 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 4 PPV 65.28
Maint Life 1.78 Years MSP 514 AFR 124% IFR 1.7% 1YR 201 5YR 3013 Max Repair 250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 0
Daimler Stufe5 500M (2) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 520 000 Litres Range 26.0 billion km (48 days at full power)
Rheinmetall Gauss-Vierling 67/30 Quad-Turm (3x16) Range 30 000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Telefunken 20-25000 (2) Max Range: 40 000 km TS: 25000 km/s 75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Siemens S28 15-R1 (1) GPS 140 Range 15.4m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Due to better tracking speed my gauss fighters can no longer match the new FCs, due to this they will be replaced by FACs - the new I-110C heavy gauss interceptor
I-110C3 class Begleitschutz-Jäger 2 000 tons 11 Crew 552 BP TCS 40 TH 500 EM 0
12500 km/s Armour 3-14 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 21.76
Maint Life 1.14 Years MSP 86 AFR 64% IFR 0.9% 1YR 67 5YR 1010 Max Repair 157 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.09 months Spare Berths 0
BMW Stufe5 100M-V250 (5) Power 100 Fuel Use 484.22% Signature 100 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 105 000 Litres Range 2.0 billion km (43 hours at full power)
Rheinmetall Gauss-Vierling 67/30 Quad-Turm (1x16) Range 30 000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Telefunken 20-25000 (1) Max Range: 40 000 km TS: 25000 km/s 75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Not that sure about the armor/range on this one, a back-up R1 sensor might be an option, what do you think?
And finally the beam FAC got a new FC as well, bringing tracking speed up to ship speed in addition to better range:
Fw-190C3 class Schwerer Jäger 2 000 tons 13 Crew 797.8 BP TCS 40 TH 500 EM 0
12500 km/s Armour 8-14 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 10
Maint Life 0.29 Years MSP 50 AFR 160% IFR 2.2% 1YR 170 5YR 2552 Max Repair 300 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months Spare Berths 8
BMW Stufe5 100M-V250 (5) Power 100 Fuel Use 484.22% Signature 100 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 75 000 Litres Range 1.4 billion km (30 hours at full power)
Krupp 31cm K4 FUV-Achs-Strahler (1) Range 320 000km TS: 12500 km/s Power 25-4 RM 5 ROF 35 25 25 25 25 25 20 17 15 13 12
Telefunken 160-12500 (1) Max Range: 320 000 km TS: 12500 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Mannesmann Reaktor Stufe 3 P1.2 (1) Total Power Output 1.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Mannesmann Reaktor Stufe3 P3 (1) Total Power Output 3 Armour 0 Exp 5%
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
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Any mistakes you have seen in the earlier post?
In addition I would like to know which of the 2 new beam design options you would prefer since I will have to visit a couple of robo-spoilers inside a nebula fairly soon:
Scharnhorst G3.2 class Strahl-Kreuzer 20 000 tons 504 Crew 4459.2 BP TCS 400 TH 2500 EM 0
6250 km/s Armour 13-65 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 9 PPV 123.28
Maint Life 1.25 Years MSP 1254 AFR 355% IFR 4.9% 1YR 838 5YR 12574 Max Repair 360 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 0
Daimler Stufe5 500M (5) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 350 000 Litres Range 27.0 billion km (50 days at full power)
Krupp 31cm K4 FUV-Achs-Strahler (1) Range 384 000km TS: 6250 km/s Power 25-4 RM 5 ROF 35 25 25 25 25 25 20 17 15 13 12
Krupp 25cm K4 FUV-Strahler Quad-Turm (3x4) Range 384 000km TS: 12500 km/s Power 64-16 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Telefunken 192-12500 (1) Max Range: 384 000 km TS: 12500 km/s 97 95 92 90 87 84 82 79 77 74
Telefunken 192-6250 (1) Max Range: 384 000 km TS: 6250 km/s 97 95 92 90 87 84 82 79 77 74
Mannesmann Stufe4 P4 (1) Total Power Output 4 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Mannesmann Stufe4 P8 (6) Total Power Output 48 Armour 0 Exp 5%
AEG S28 FC18-R1 (1) Range 18.5m km Resolution 1
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Fleet Speed beam cruiser with 3 quad laser turrets or
Scharnhorst G3.2a class Strahl-Kreuzer 20 000 tons 464 Crew 4462.2 BP TCS 400 TH 3500 EM 0
8750 km/s Armour 12-65 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 9 PPV 85.52
Maint Life 1.26 Years MSP 1255 AFR 355% IFR 4.9% 1YR 820 5YR 12306 Max Repair 360 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Spare Berths 1
Daimler Stufe5 500M (7) Power 500 Fuel Use 45% Signature 500 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 200 000 Litres Range 24.0 billion km (31 days at full power)
Krupp 31cm K4 FUV-Achs-Strahler (1) Range 384 000km TS: 8750 km/s Power 25-4 RM 5 ROF 35 25 25 25 25 25 20 17 15 13 12
Krupp 25cm K4 FUV-Strahler Quad-Turm (2x4) Range 384 000km TS: 12500 km/s Power 64-16 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Telefunken 192-12500 (1) Max Range: 384 000 km TS: 12500 km/s 97 95 92 90 87 84 82 79 77 74
Telefunken 192-6250 (1) Max Range: 384 000 km TS: 6250 km/s 97 95 92 90 87 84 82 79 77 74
Mannesmann Stufe4 P8 (4) Total Power Output 32 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Mannesmann Stufe4 P4 (1) Total Power Output 4 Armour 0 Exp 5%
AEG S28 FC18-R1 (1) Range 18.5m km Resolution 1
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
more Speed, but at the cost of 1 quad turret and 1 row of armor (inside the nebula would be limited to armor x 675), so at least for this operation this design would operate a bit below its max speed.
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The G3. 2a is better because of the speed. I'm curious what you want your turrets to achieve? If you are using them for fighter defense, they are probaby about right. If you want them to act as a missle defense asset, they are probably no better than a 15cm or 10cm laser but they are heavier and need more power. If you switched your current lasers to 15cm lasers you could probably get another turret on there or increase your speed. Both would help against missles. Also, you should also try to increase your fire control tracking speed if you want your turrets to help protect you against missles. Just my humble opinion.
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Thx, nope the turrets are just for FACs or faster ships, I-110Cs will take care of any missiles while away from the main fleet or together with the Hipper-class while with the fleet. But for the nebula mission missiles are of no concern anyway.
And I just saw that the nebula speed is just 625 per armor, so the 3.2a would just be able to move at 7500 in there.
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Dump a row of armor for MSP again :D
Many beam threats have Meson weapons in any case:
*armor won't help
*but engineering spaces will help repair damage taken from meson/shock