Aurora 4x
VB6 Aurora => VB6 Mechanics => Topic started by: Lightning on January 20, 2015, 11:47:43 AM
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Hi all,
I'm in the process of trying to assault an enemy homeworld. The only sensor contacts are the population, some ground forces, and the shipyards. I'm not detecting any active sensors, but am taking missile fire. 7 salvo's of 43 size 1 missiles each. I assume the planet has some point defense PDC's I'm not detecting & they are the ones shooting at me.
So, apparently I'm missing something on how to detect PDC's on a planet or am still too far away at 11m km. I seem to remember reading somewhere quite a while ago that PDC's used the planetary sensors which would explain the no active sensor readings, but I'm just not quite sure about how to detect & target them. I've got to assume poorly designed sensors on my part, at least when it comes to PDC's. Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance so I can remedy the problem for the next conquest.
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Ive never seen PDC's, ever. They are probably smaller orbiting platforms.
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You cant really "see" them. Just fire at the body giving you trouble until its nothing but radioactive dust..... or until they stop shooting.
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So the only way to attack a PDC is just randomly fire at the population?
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NPRs do not build PDCs, only player does. The NPR probably has small Orbital Weapon Platforms that you haven't seen yet. Which is kinda weird because usually their OWPs are huge.
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And player-built PDCs can be detected just like an OWP, I believe.
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NPRs do not build PDCs, only player does. The NPR probably has small Orbital Weapon Platforms that you haven't seen yet. Which is kinda weird because usually their OWPs are huge.
Couple of problems:
1) I am detecting *no* active sensors of any kind. Have no clue how they are even able to target me with an OWP.
2) The planet is 11.2m km away which should be in range of my "Active Search Sensor MR23-R4 (1) GPS 768 Range 23.0m km Resolution 4". If I've read things correctly, this sensor should detect everything larger than 200 tons & closer than 23m km. If its a OWP, it would have to be 2500 tons at a minimum to be launching 43 size 1 missiles at me every 5 seconds based on my calculations.
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Couple of problems:
1) I am detecting *no* active sensors of any kind. Have no clue how they are even able to target me with an OWP.
2) The planet is 11.2m km away which should be in range of my "Active Search Sensor MR23-R4 (1) GPS 768 Range 23.0m km Resolution 4". If I've read things correctly, this sensor should detect everything larger than 200 tons & closer than 23m km. If its a OWP, it would have to be 2500 tons at a minimum to be launching 43 size 1 missiles at me every 5 seconds based on my calculations.
Weird. When I got home from work and opened aurora, the OWP showed up as new contacts. Still no active sensors detected though
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Maybe their using some other Active Sensor in the system, or the one their using might be small and weak. Other than that, this is a rather confusing conundrum and you might want to tell Steve about it in the bug thread, although it might not be easily replicated.
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The system map was behaving a little weird before I logged last night. When I restarted today, after the 1st 5 sec interval, about 70 13,000 ton OWP showed up well within sensor range. Still not detecting any active sensors. Since I'm running an old version, bug report doesn't seem worthwhile.
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The system map was behaving a little weird before I logged last night. When I restarted today, after the 1st 5 sec interval, about 70 13,000 ton OWP showed up well within sensor range. Still not detecting any active sensors. Since I'm running an old version, bug report doesn't seem worthwhile.
Good this got cleared up. And may I ask why you are running an older version of the game?
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Had a campaign started that I didn't want to abandon when the engine rules/design got changed. While I'm not sure why NPC's wouldn't build PDC's, knowing they don't kinda eliminates the original question :)
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The system map was behaving a little weird before I logged last night. When I restarted today, after the 1st 5 sec interval, about 70 13,000 ton OWP showed up well within sensor range. Still not detecting any active sensors. Since I'm running an old version, bug report doesn't seem worthwhile.
They stopped firing once I detected them as well. The missiles in flight continued on course though. So either I ran em out of missiles at the same time, or they stopped cause of no active sensors. I'm gonna go with the weird map thingy and call it a day.
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FYI, these guys are gonna be a tough nut to crack. The point defense shot down about 1600 missiles out of the salvo from my fighters. Time to boost fighter & ordinance production.
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FYI, these guys are gonna be a tough nut to crack. The point defense shot down about 1600 missiles out of the salvo from my fighters. Time to boost fighter & ordinance production.
You could design some special missiles with Ablative Armor and ECM. You could call them Bunker Busters ;).
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Already in the works :)
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Last I checked, PDCs were undetectable* until they fired, at which point they showed up like any other target. The flavour text was thaty they were buried in/under mountains or otherwise behind hundreds of feet of rock.
*Except for their sensors, which they almost never turned on since planetary tracking was always better.
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Does planetary tracking count as an active sensor contact? I thought it didn't.
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Does planetary tracking count as an active sensor contact? I thought it didn't.
Its a large passive sensor. Think Hubble.
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Last I checked, PDCs were undetectable* until they fired, at which point they showed up like any other target. The flavour text was thaty they were buried in/under mountains or otherwise behind hundreds of feet of rock.
*Except for their sensors, which they almost never turned on since planetary tracking was always better.
Nah, PDCs are detectable with active sensors like anything else.