Aurora 4x

Aurora => C# Aurora => Topic started by: waresky on September 17, 2016, 11:45:55 AM

Title: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: waresky on September 17, 2016, 11:45:55 AM
first and Obviously apologize ma deadly english...:)

Steve, any nice idea >> how much time before Aurora C++ come in "Beta" format?

Ah..Hype Hype...bad thing.
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Post by: Lossmar on September 17, 2016, 11:50:06 AM
Well hype ended very badly for No Man Sky so stop it :)
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Post by: bitbucket on September 17, 2016, 09:19:17 PM
When it's done.
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Post by: Steve Walmsley on September 18, 2016, 06:24:23 AM
Distracted by Elder Scrolls Online at the moment :)

There is a still a huge amount to do so I'm almost certain it won't be this year. I'll keep posting updates though when I have them.

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Post by: 83athom on September 18, 2016, 07:59:52 PM
how much time before Aurora C++ come in "Beta" format?
C#

 Soontm (meaning nowhere near for quite a while).
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: Shuul on September 29, 2016, 05:37:26 PM
Just wanted to add that Ukrainian and Russian communities are waiting passionately for C# Aurora.
We don't show up here that often but there are a LOT of hardcore players grateful for your work.  ;)
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Post by: ardem on September 29, 2016, 08:33:59 PM
wow Ukraine and Russian communities, Steve you could theoretically help world peace by releasing it.  ;D
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Post by: Shuul on September 30, 2016, 01:01:09 AM
wow Ukraine and Russian communities, Steve you could theoretically help world peace by releasing it.  ;D

Well, there is still tension but as we are mostly mature players we try not to bring it to our hobbies and leisure time   ::)
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Post by: MarcAFK on October 09, 2016, 10:57:39 PM
Distracted by Elder Scrolls Online at the moment :)

There is a still a huge amount to do so I'm almost certain it won't be this year. I'll keep posting updates though when I have them.


"Almost" Certain?
Forgive me for jumping at straws but that makes me think that theres a slim possibility it could actually be in a playable state within a few months, I'm excited, though I'm sure the added features, bug testing, and hotfixes will surely take months after any release.
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: Profugo Barbatus on October 10, 2016, 07:27:56 PM
Quote from: MarcAFK link=topic=9053. msg97837#msg97837 date=1476071859
"Almost" Certain?
Forgive me for jumping at straws but that makes me think that theres a slim possibility it could actually be in a playable state within a few months, I'm excited, though I'm sure the added features, bug testing, and hotfixes will surely take months after any release.

The last 20% of a software project takes 80% of the time :P

I'd love to have the C# Aurora in time for the new year, but "Almost" Certain is pretty much just code for "If literally ANYTHING is quirky, or if I flipped a '>' somewhere and didn't notice it, then its not gonna happen".  Plus, its possible Steve will decide to add in some extra features atop it while he's in the code.  I've got April down as my hoped for date for a release, but we'll see how it goes.
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Post by: Retropunch on November 08, 2016, 02:28:43 PM
I'm sure you don't need any more encouragement Steve, but I know a heck of a lot of people that play Aurora regularly who don't post here (or anywhere), and they're all gnashing their teeth for the C# release.

Strangely, whilst it's a very hardcore strategy game, most of the players I know aren't really interested in other gaming as such - so it's got a very wide appeal!
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Post by: IanD on November 09, 2016, 02:14:05 AM
Steve, please release Aurora 8.0 ASAP as I badly need something to take my mind off the real world!!  ::) ;D
Ian
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Post by: alex_brunius on November 09, 2016, 04:01:23 AM
Steve, please release Aurora 8.0 ASAP as I badly need something to take my mind off the real world!!  ::) ;D
Ian

Hahaha, I second this! ( Might it have something to do with a certain election result? )  ;D
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Post by: MarcAFK on November 09, 2016, 06:14:09 AM
Hahaha, I second this! ( Might it have something to do with a certain election result? )  ;D
I dont know what you mean, now if you excuse me, I must finish driving those space mexicans back behnd the warp point so i can make the America system great again.
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 12, 2016, 05:15:54 AM
I'm sure you don't need any more encouragement Steve, but I know a heck of a lot of people that play Aurora regularly who don't post here (or anywhere), and they're all gnashing their teeth for the C# release.

Strangely, whilst it's a very hardcore strategy game, most of the players I know aren't really interested in other gaming as such - so it's got a very wide appeal!

I've been busy with work the last couple of weeks or so, which halted progress for a while. Back on it today :)
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Post by: ardem on December 01, 2016, 07:57:17 PM
The really question is ..

Is Steve Santa and will we receive a Christmas present. <smile>
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Post by: lennson on December 01, 2016, 09:58:23 PM
Whether that is possible probably depends on whether he intends to wait till he has re-implemented everything that is the current version or whether he will release a partially complete version (perhaps missing NPRs, "Spoilers", etc. that are not necessarily 'core' to the game.).
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Post by: Steve Walmsley on December 02, 2016, 11:53:34 AM
The really question is ..

Is Steve Santa and will we receive a Christmas present. <smile>

Maybe for Xmas 2017 :)

It isn't going to be ready this year. I do have a few days off next week and hope to make some progress on system generation. However, I am probably at least six months away from completion. I do hope to get a test game started earlier than that - maybe 2-3 months. It really depends on my available free time.

Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: Steve Walmsley on December 02, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
Whether that is possible probably depends on whether he intends to wait till he has re-implemented everything that is the current version or whether he will release a partially complete version (perhaps missing NPRs, "Spoilers", etc. that are not necessarily 'core' to the game.).

The first test game will likely be without AI - at least at the start.
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Post by: JesDer on December 02, 2016, 03:21:00 PM
I am just happy it is still being worked on. 

I think I might need to play some more Aurora . .  maybe finish up my 3rd party app I never released.
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Post by: alex_brunius on December 03, 2016, 06:36:37 AM
The first test game will likely be without AI - at least at the start.

Who needs AI anyway? All I want is pathfinding and working civilian lines and I'm set to go with multi empire games where you control all yourself ;D
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Post by: 83athom on December 03, 2016, 12:31:35 PM
Who needs AI anyway? All I want is pathfinding and working civilian lines and I'm set to go with multi empire games where you control all yourself ;D
People who want to carve a path through space while encountering surprises that make you go "****, is that what I have to go against?".
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: alex_brunius on December 03, 2016, 12:53:22 PM
People who want to carve a path through space while encountering surprises that make you go "****, is that what I have to go against?".

Don't you mean people who want to carve a path through space while encountering 8'000km/s missiles that your warships can outrun and 2000km/s warships only armed with point blank range weapons that your civilian ships can outrun, despite giving the AI 100:eds of % of boosts?
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Post by: QuakeIV on December 03, 2016, 04:57:19 PM
Thats what he means, yeah.
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Post by: MarcAFK on December 06, 2016, 06:30:51 AM
6 months sounds good for a mostly complete alpha, we all would gladly help 'bugtest' for you.
The new version should make multiplayer forum games rather more easy than they have been in the past, I'm pretty confidant a few people will have a good time with that.
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Post by: Bughunter on December 06, 2016, 12:29:05 PM
We are having a good time already with the current version in the ongoing community game, but of course also looking forward to the next version like everyone else.
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: QuakeIV on December 07, 2016, 08:49:12 AM
Honestly I'm just excitedly awaiting the rebalanced orbital infrastructure, the fact that that stuff is practical now is so hype.
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: 83athom on December 07, 2016, 09:31:10 AM
Honestly I'm just excitedly awaiting the rebalanced orbital infrastructure, the fact that that stuff is practical now is so hype.
I just want to play with 6+ empires at start, all spoilers, and with a high generation chance without getting a slowdown. To me those other features, while nice and very useful, are somewhat secondary. Don't get me wrong, I really want to build some skeleton ships (no-armor cargo/fuel modules pulled by a "tug") to supply massive warfleets to battle all the xenos left, right, and center, and drop some titans on some poor chumps' head.
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Post by: Bandus on December 21, 2016, 10:17:02 PM
I just discovered that Aurora was being re-written in C# today. I spent a bunch of time looking at the screenshots and reading up on what info has been released so far. I have to say, I am extremely excited to hear about this!
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Post by: IanD on December 23, 2016, 03:45:39 AM
Don't you mean people who want to carve a path through space while encountering 8'000km/s missiles that your warships can outrun and 2000km/s warships only armed with point blank range weapons that your civilian ships can outrun, despite giving the AI 100:eds of % of boosts?

I agree that something appears to have happened between 6.21 and 6.43. In 6.21 I was running the AI at +150% and came up against two NPRs that significantly out teched me. Took ~10 years minimum to catch up on each while trying and occassionally failing to hold warp points (see http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=5470.0). Thats when I found the major problem with mines, they all go off or none. (a mine field where only a given number activate per contact would be good). Since 6.43 the AI at 500% has been rubbish.
Ian
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: Noble713 on December 29, 2016, 08:47:03 AM
I just want to play with 6+ empires at start, all spoilers, and with a high generation chance without getting a slowdown. To me those other features, while nice and very useful, are somewhat secondary.

This x1000. I'm gaming on a pretty decent rig* and Aurora can be painfully sluggish. And I know most of that stems from the VB/Access combo. Even with no new features, a code refactoring/language re-write and a database switch should be a godsend for speed.


*Core i7-4770, SSD drive, 16GB RAM, nVidia GTX 650 Ti 2GB, running Lubuntu Linux with Aurora in Wine.
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Post by: Rogtuok on January 13, 2017, 09:44:34 AM
OMG NEW AURORA im waiting .
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Post by: Drizzt321 on February 01, 2017, 01:40:50 AM
So very excited for this! I'm a relative newcomer to Aurora 4x, and while I've played for several hours I always end up going away just to come back given the oddities and relative clunkiness of the UI.  Updating the code to a much more modern language and toolchain will hopefully help, over time, the pain and make it that much easier to maintain! Can't wait for the first playable alpha/beta/whatever!

Funny thought, with it written in C# might even be Linux compatible now :)
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: Bughunter on February 01, 2017, 02:32:36 AM
I always thought winforms on Linux was a no-go, but just googled and found this:
http://www.mono-project.com/docs/gui/winforms/ (http://www.mono-project.com/docs/gui/winforms/)

No idea how well it works or if Steve would have any interest in trying to compile it with mono. And there is probably lots of other stuff that is Windows-specific anyway.
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Post by: Drizzt321 on February 01, 2017, 06:35:56 PM
There might very well be issues simply compiling for Linux since there might be some very specific Windows only stuff.  However, I suspect unless he's gone out of his way there's probably a lot less than we think.  Or possibly none, it might simply run either directly on Mono (remember it's CLI, more or less a virtualized execution environment) or with a simple recompile using Mono tools.

I vote he gets done with basically all of the work to bring feature parity with the older VB version in C# before he considers looking into it  :)
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Post by: Shuul on May 04, 2017, 05:36:43 PM
Hey hey, it been very quite lately :( any progress?
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Post by: QuakeIV on May 04, 2017, 05:59:31 PM
[various clamering for status updates]
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Post by: mrwigggles on May 05, 2017, 12:00:47 AM
There probably hasnt been updates, because he hasnt been working on it. So if he were to update, it would probably be to state, that he hasnt worked on it.
Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: waresky on July 02, 2017, 03:34:24 AM
Maybe for Xmas 2017 :)

It isn't going to be ready this year. I do have a few days off next week and hope to make some progress on system generation. However, I am probably at least six months away from completion. I do hope to get a test game started earlier than that - maybe 2-3 months. It really depends on my available free time.

"Xmas 2017" >>>> - 6 Months

Damn..Imperium Romanum motto was : "Irreparabile Tempus Fugit" (Time Flee...really fast)
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Post by: Lossmar on July 12, 2017, 01:09:34 PM
Maybe for Xmas 2017 :)

It isn't going to be ready this year. I do have a few days off next week and hope to make some progress on system generation. However, I am probably at least six months away from completion. I do hope to get a test game started earlier than that - maybe 2-3 months. It really depends on my available free time.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyy ?  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Dont do this to us.. we need our fix..
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Post by: Barkhorn on July 12, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
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Post by: DuraniumCowboy on December 15, 2017, 08:27:07 AM
In case anybody is interested, I finally got around to doing a C# possible features discussion on my youtube channel.  This is something Steve had said he was OK with.

BTW Steve, if that has changed let me know.  Since I am using your screenshots, I will take it down if there are any issues, no worries.

Title: Re: Hype by anticipation...:)
Post by: waresky on January 03, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
In case anybody is interested, I finally got around to doing a C# possible features discussion on my youtube channel.  This is something Steve had said he was OK with.

BTW Steve, if that has changed let me know.  Since I am using your screenshots, I will take it down if there are any issues, no worries.

WOW Duranium, very nice Blog. Good job!