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Offline Garfunkel

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Destroyer / frigate types
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:36:58 PM »
I don't have access to the game at the moment, so off the top of my head I think the DB already has:

Frigate   FF
Missile Frigate   FFG
Destroyer   DD
Destroyer Escort   DE
Missile Destroyer   DDG
Jump Destroyer   DJ/JD/DDJ/JDD?
Destroyer Leader   DL

Have I forgotten something?
 

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Re: Destroyer / frigate types
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2019, 01:10:28 PM »
frigateFF
missile frigateFFG
frigate leaderFFL
jump frigateJF
scout frigateSF
recon frigateRF
surveillance frigateSF
kinetic frigateFK
destroyerDD
missile destroyerDDG
destroyer escortDE
destroyer leaderDL
jump destroyerJD
jump destroyer escortDEJ
scout destroyerDSC


I think that's all of them
 
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Re: Destroyer / frigate types
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2019, 02:43:46 PM »
Not a game breaker... Doesn't DDG stand for "Guided" missile destroyer?  ???

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Re: Destroyer / frigate types
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2019, 03:07:29 PM »
Not in the database.

For the USN, that is what it would be, yeah.  A DDG or CG are guided missile destroyer, or cruiser, respectively.

this will probably interest you in such case:
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_ships_list.php
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Re: Destroyer / frigate types
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2019, 05:16:44 PM »
Aurora does not model unguided missiles (ie rockets) at all, because all missiles have an associated fire control that guides them to the target OR at least it gives them initial targeting information. Unguided missile would be a rocket, ie you just roughly aim it at somewhere and start the engine, hoping for the best. Not sure if any real navy had rocket ships aside from the Landing Craft, Support (Rocket) that were used to increase the firepower of contested landings in WW2, but I guess the USN wanted to make sure that everyone knew their fancy new post-war ships weren't just randomly shooting rockets everywhere  :P
 

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Re: Destroyer / frigate types
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2019, 06:33:53 PM »
The spruance class comes to mind as being armed with missiles, yet not receiving the DDG moniker, just DD.

What sets them apart is a lack of air defence as compared to their contemporaries.  They are barely able to defend themselves much less any other ships, whereas pretty much all the other USN destroyers could defend other ships as well.

Their intended role at design was for anti submarine duties as carrier escort, which would have put them under the defensive umbrella of long island, virginia, and/or ticonderoga class cruisers.

Even when refit with 24 mk-41 vls cells to replace their 8 cell armored box launcher, they didn't get the DDG moniker, because they only gained more tomahawk and ASROC.


As to rocket specific armaments, there are a couple, though pretty much all are either amphibs or inland patrol craft.  A notable exception are 4 project 206 torpedo boats, shtorm class, owned by egypt, which were refit with 40 round rocket launchers - though again, its intended role is shore bombardment.

Likewise, any ship with the italian Breda 105mm SCLAR is capable of launching barrage rockets having a range of 11,000m, though once again, the intended role is amphib support.  Its been carried by Argentinian Meko 360H2, German Brandenburg and westerwald classes, Italian Contedi cavour, horizon, soldati, Cdte. Cigala Fulgosi, Garibaldi, audace, maestrale, artigliere, alpino, sangeorgio, stromboli, and etna classes, Nigerian Aradu class, Peruvian lupo, and Venezuelan Lupo class.

Afaik, that's pretty much it though.  So no ships I am aware of in the modern era outright dedicated to the rocket attack role.  Its always secondary, supporting, and especially not anti-ship.  Though I suspect they'd effectively mess up smaller ships like project 206 missile/torpedo boats and various FAC.
 

 

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