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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2022, 12:41:15 PM »
Chapter 4 - When is a Frigate not a Corvette?

If the Dreadnoughts are the avatars of the ideals of Empire, then frigates are the embodiment of the practical gritty realities. The frigates emerged as a response to the ever growing requirements for patrol squadrons and planetary guard ships to protect the new colonies of the expanding Empire. In theory the Army and their formidable surface-to-orbit gun batteries were supposed to cover such colonial defence duties, but the continued delays in large calibre railgun production precluded this. It should be admitted that this was in no small part due to the Admiralty refusing to share it's large calibre gun pits with the Army, prioritising production for it's own warships over deliveries to the Imperial Artillery. In fairness it should also be said that this was not just motivated by the typical lack of inter-service co-operation, but because the Admiralty believed it's existing railgun manufacturing capacity was woefully insufficient, a point illustrated by the armament of the new frigates.

The Leander class frigates were somewhat smaller than a standard Tribal class destroyer (8kT aether vs 10kT aether) and marginally slower, they also had thinner armour and were generally less robust with fewer redundant backup systems. What they did have was a considerably greater endurance, longer range and a wildly different weapons fit out, the design being cheaper both to procure and then to operate being taken as a given. Due to the bottlenecks in production of the standard Vickers 8" railguns the frigates instead mounted four twin 4.5" Molins light rail guns which provided both point defence and a coup de grace weapon against crippled foes. Controversially the main armament being fifty Hawker 5" 'light torpedo' tubes externally mounted around the hull. Very heavily influenced by the similarly sized weapons captured after the Sourmagh campaign, the 5" Brimstone light torpedo was the latest attempt to fix the increasingly blatant failure of the heavyweight 15" Tigerfish/Spearfish family of torpedoes and great things were expected of it. Though in fairness some of that was an expectation of another failure and great scandal.

As one would expect from such a deeply controversial concept there were many unbuilt alternatives. Leaving aside the numerous variants on the Leander theme that tweaked the ratio of railgun to torpedo tube or other minor adjustments, the most interesting of these alternatives was the Castle class. The design was another attempt to answer the same question but one which resulted in a quite wildly different outcome.

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Castle Mk.I class Corvette      6,400 tons       196 Crew       1,263.6 BP       TCS 128    TH 640    EM 0
5000 km/s      Armour 4-30       Shields 0-0       HTK 42      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 4      PPV 40.32
Maint Life 2.74 Years     MSP 493    AFR 82%    IFR 1.1%    1YR 95    5YR 1,419    Max Repair 320 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

Rolls Royce Osprey Mk.II MPD-640 (1)    Power 640    Fuel Use 48.83%    Signature 640    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 561,000 Gallons    Range 32.3 billion km (74 days at full power)

Molins 4.5" Mk.I Railgun V50/C4 (8x4)    Range 50,000km     TS: 5,000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 50,000 km    ROF 5       
Sterling Mk.I Twin Coil Turret (16k) (1x6)    Range 30,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 30,000 km    ROF 5       
Plessey Type 900 TFC 192-16000 (SW) (1)     Max Range: 192,000 km   TS: 16,000 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Racal Type 503XE BFC 240-5000 (1)     Max Range: 240,000 km   TS: 5,000 km/s     96 92 88 83 79 75 71 67 62 58
Brown Curtis Gorgon Mk.I SFR-B 25MW (1)     Total Power Output 25 kBTU/s    Exp 10%

Racal Type 250EMWS 700k/R1 (1)     GPS 21     Range 8.6m km    MCR 771.7k km    Resolution 1
Ferranti Type 600SR 46m/R20 (1)     GPS 1680     Range 46.6m km    Resolution 20

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a c for auto-assignment purposes

The Castle class took the frigate principles and followed them further, not perhaps to the extreme but certainly further than was wise. It was even smaller, even slower and so even cheaper to build. Being a single engined design it lacked any redundancy in the propulsion system while even the standard TRE 'Asprin' ECM magnetic flux jammer had been removed to save weight and cost. Interestingly it was these cost saving choices and not the lack of torpedo armament that prompted the first great fight over the concept, the frigate lobby wishing to disassociate themselves from such a compromised design while the more economically minded sections of the Admiralty insisted it was perfectly reasonable submission. There were many productive meetings and discussions about what classification to give these new ships, not productive in the sense there was any useful output but in the sense that it kept the people involved safely distracted and unable to ruin anything else. In the end the Admiralty Board quite sensibly ignored all those discussions and just threw the problem at the Ship Naming Committee, who were genuinely delighted to develop a new classification naming scheme. They decreed that the Castle design was indeed not a frigate but was actually a corvette, going so far as to produce the first classification system for the aether age;

  • Single Engined Warship, second rate - Corvette
  • Single Engined Warship, fleet service - Sloop
  • Twin Engined Warship, second rate - Frigate
  • Twin Engined Warship, fleet service - Destroyer

The system was somewhat arbitrarily capped at 15kT, any warship larger being a cruiser or one of the capital ship classes. It is tempting to call the exercise something of a waste of time as the Castle class corvette was never built, but the system did endure and eventually corvettes would be built. The Admiralty of the time was spared any discussion on classification because a 'time honoured and traditional' system was in place, so it did eventually prove worthwhile.

As to the Castle itself, it proved to be the peak (or perhaps low point) of the economical warship movement. Despite a whole host of compromises on capability and suitability the design was projected as barely 5% cheaper to build than a Leander while having a very fractionally larger crew. For these fairly minimal savings the result was a ship that the Tactical Office feared would be too slow and too weak for many of the projected missions. A flotilla of the design could probably have handled a jump point picket with reasonable confidence and as a planetary guard ship it would have been impressive enough to reassure most civilians. But there had been a good reason the Admiralty Board had raised the standard fleet speed and the Castles were just too slow, particularly for a warship with such short ranged beam weaponry. While much of the Admiralty had no problem with fobbing off the planetary guard ship mission onto cheap ships, they were adverse to building ineffective ones. It was correctly believed that at some point the army would get enough STO batteries in place that the guard ship mission would disappear, at that point the fleet would have to make use of the ships that were released. It was this that finally tipped the balance in favour of the frigates and marked the retreat of the economical warship faction, while price, strategic minerals and industrial capacity would remain important limits the faction had proved that certain savings were not worth the cost.

Considering the what-ifs is a challenge here, because the frigates that were built very rarely fired a shot in anger themselves. In the guard ship role or distant picket mission the design would doubtless have performed well, because such missions were about presence more than capability. Some have raised events such as the Vistonida Incursion into The Raj through a hidden jump point as an example of the sort of scenario a Castle would struggle with and certainly they would not have performed well in that case. Being far slower than the standard Vistonida destroyer they never could have caught them and would have been reduced to trying to withstand a missile barrage while defending the key points, hoping to outlast an enemy they could not harm. The issue is of course that The Raj never rated a frigate squadron as it was only ever a listening out post, at least until the discovery of the hidden jump point, so the Castles would not have faced that situation. If one uses hindsight then it is likely that the Castles would have been an acceptable choice, but without that benefit it is hard to find fault with an Admiralty that preferred a very slight increase in expenditure to get a considerably more capable design.
 
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2022, 03:24:12 PM »
It returns in the least surprising long delay followed by an unsolicited update in the history of this forum, as is traditional.

Chapter 4 - When is a Frigate not a Corvette?

If the Dreadnoughts are the avatars of the ideals of Empire, then frigates are the embodiment of the practical gritty realities.

Clearly the ideals of the Empire are centered on silly turret designs, ugly superstructures, and and mercurial admirals who grant +300% construction rate through sheer force of will.

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Controversially the main armament being fifty Hawker 5" 'light torpedo' tubes externally mounted around the hull.

Much of the controversy is due to the rather hilarious sight of 2.5-ton torpedoes which are only 5" in diameter but several dozen meters in length, giving the Leanders rather the appearance of an ammunition belt wrapped around a frigate hull.

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Though in fairness some of that was an expectation of another failure and great scandal.

Naturally.

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the most interesting of these alternatives was the Castle class. The design was another attempt to answer the same question but one which resulted in a quite wildly different outcome.

Despite the name, and the above-mentioned considerations regarding STOs and planetary defense, curiously this was not a design for a heavily fortified orbital platform in which an old-money nobleman would ensconce himself in the face of the alien menace.

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Castle Mk.I class Corvette
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Brown Curtis Gorgon Mk.I SFR-B 25MW (1)     Total Power Output 25 kBTU/s    Exp 10%

I note approvingly that the confusion about proper Imperial units for things has reached new heights in this promising future you write of.

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There were many productive meetings and discussions about what classification to give these new ships, not productive in the sense there was any useful output but in the sense that it kept the people involved safely distracted and unable to ruin anything else.

The absolute best and most critical to society sort of production.

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Considering the what-ifs is a challenge here, because the frigates that were built very rarely fired a shot in anger themselves. In the guard ship role or distant picket mission the design would doubtless have performed well, because such missions were about presence more than capability.

NPR fleet doctrine in a nutshell.

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The Raj

Truly, some things never change no matter how alternate the history...

Aside, I begin to suspect that this AAR is actually being cobbled together from multiple campaigns, with a prodigious application of timey-wimey-flavo(u)red Handwavium used to disguise the joins. Such an approach would not only explain the sporadic nature of the work, not that such ever requires an explanation, but also would allow the author to stealthily partake of the latest updates with no great loss to the work itself.
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2022, 01:30:19 PM »
It returns in the least surprising long delay followed by an unsolicited update in the history of this forum, as is traditional.[/quote]
Standards must be maintained.

Clearly the ideals of the Empire are centered on silly turret designs, ugly superstructures, and and mercurial admirals who grant +300% construction rate through sheer force of will.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, all may (or may) become clearer if a Dreadnought ever graces these pages.

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Much of the controversy is due to the rather hilarious sight of 2.5-ton torpedoes which are only 5" in diameter but several dozen meters in length, giving the Leanders rather the appearance of an ammunition belt wrapped around a frigate hull.[/quote]
Fortunately the British Imperial Space Inch is much larger than it's terrestrial counterpart, the reformation of the unit system was quite radical and perhaps not entirely thought through. But it is traditional now so the Empire sticks with it.

Despite the name, and the above-mentioned considerations regarding STOs and planetary defense, curiously this was not a design for a heavily fortified orbital platform in which an old-money nobleman would ensconce himself in the face of the alien menace.
Such static defences would be quite counter to the spirit of naval doctrine. It's not quite The Legions "Fly me closer so I can shoot them in the face" but it is in a similar vein.

Aside, I begin to suspect that this AAR is actually being cobbled together from multiple campaigns, with a prodigious application of timey-wimey-flavo(u)red Handwavium used to disguise the joins. Such an approach would not only explain the sporadic nature of the work, not that such ever requires an explanation, but also would allow the author to stealthily partake of the latest updates with no great loss to the work itself.
As it happens it is quite the opposite. I had to take a step away from the last game as it was sucking up more free time than I actually had, as is the way of Aurora. While the new version has got me tempted to dive back in, it also reminded me I have a very large pile of notes from that game. It seemed a shame just to abandon them so this work awoke from it's short nap and here we are.
 
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2022, 02:04:29 PM »
Fortunately the British Imperial Space Inch is much larger than it's terrestrial counterpart, the reformation of the unit system was quite radical and perhaps not entirely thought through. But it is traditional now so the Empire sticks with it.

Much like the British Imperial Space Ton, or the British Imperial Space Btu. Actually, given the identity of the game's developer this makes a lot of sense...

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Such static defences would be quite counter to the spirit of naval doctrine. It's not quite The Legions "Fly me closer so I can shoot them in the face" but it is in a similar vein.

Faces are for infliction upon of violence, if this were not true why would politicians have two?
 
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2023, 03:14:23 PM »
Chapter 5 To Cruise or Not To Cruise Part I
Not all of the Royal Navy's unbuilt designs are flights of fancy or the mildly deranged visions of people who should have known better. Some are just not as good as the alternative or are potentially good concepts killed by politics or doctrine. The rash of cruiser designs from late 2227 are a good example of these latter types.

We begin in the aftermath of the First Hartha Expedition, the prompt for many an unbuilt warship. After the destruction of the Palmerston V Parliament demanded a punitive expedition to deal with the issue and, from a naval perspective, the expedition entirely met it's objectives: the 1st Cruiser Squadron had suppressed then destroyed the enemy STO weapons; the Montgomery and Round Table class troop ships had gravchute dropped the Hartha Expeditionary Army without loss; and finally the fleet had recovered the battered survivors of said Army (the remnants of 2nd and 4th Armoured and the 5th Infantry Divisions) when the evacuation order was given. While it was the Army's review that attracted the most political and popular attention, not least the heated debate about the future of the Holloway Reforms and the quite alarming technological gap between the Army's forces and those found on the planet, the Admiralty conducted it's usual post-campaign review, which is where we find our interest for this chapter.

It was noted that the County class cruisers of the 1st Squadron had been out-ranged by the ground defences and had taken a degree of armour damage while closing in. None of the ships had been in danger, but half the squadron had been order into dock after their return to get their armour repaired. Various options for long range fire power were discussed and much of the report was bogged down with old arguments about the desirability or otherwise of plasma cannons as either a secondary or main weapon on a second line cruiser or dedicated planetary assault/support ship. Towards the end the report's authors noted that had the cruisers been protected by shields then such repairs would likely would not have been required. As this idea did not involve yet more circular discussion about plasma weapons, a subject that was hurled back to the weapons doctrine sub-committee with almost unseemly haste, it was only the part of the document the Fleet Lords particularly wanted to talk about. Of course they would have preferred not to talk about the report at all as they considered the Hartha Expedition a perfectly successful operation, marred only by the apparent inability of the Army to defeat a foe that could shoot back. Sadly Parliament was in the throes of a deep panic and thus incapable of such discernment, they only saw a failure and were demanding action. Therefore to appease the defence committees and avoid them imposing any ill-advised action of their own the possibility of shielding the cruiser fleet evolved into a specification for a prospective new cruiser design. That the Admiralty lacked the budget to build a worthwhile number of brand new cruisers was something their political liaisons hid in the minutes until it was used to ambush the Treasury in the annual discussion on the Naval Estimates.

The specification itself was quite broadly written, an upper limit of 30kT was specified, to maintain interoperability with the City class jump cruisers, and the same minimum patrol time, operational range, sensor capability and engine provision were required. It is unclear if the Admiralty deliberately left the scope broad to attract new ideas or if they just neglected to do so because they only expected minor tweaks to be suggested, regardless of their expectations the specification would attract wide interest. An argument in favour of the former point is that there were a number of new technologies emerging from the various research institutions and establishments of the Empire that had not yet been integrated into the fleet and a design contest would lure such ideas out of the lab and into practical designs. While this did indeed occur give the track record of the Admiralty around new technologies it would be rash to assume that this was actually one of the intended outcomes.

The Centurion Project
The Britannia design office made two submissions to the competition, the first was was an evolution of the County Mk.IVB design that was the backbone of the cruiser fleet. This design slightly thinned out the standard armour scheme to make space for a light shield generator set and improved electronics, this design would eventually be built as the County Mk.V (if admittedly only as a refit of existing Mk.IVs and in limited numbers before itself being replaced by the improved Mk.VA design) so will not be discussed in detail here. Our focus is on the second design, developed as the design office was concerned they were reaching the end of what could be done with the standard Type 'C' 30kT ceramic cruiser hull. As mentioned the Mk.V was an incremental improvement and the shield generator installed was a small 30 Farad unit so in raw figures the class actually had less protection than the Mk.IVs, though this was arguably compensated for by the other advantages of the shield. Shield generation however was not a linear exercise, doubling the size of the core flux coils and projector would more than double the strength of the resulting shield. The problem was that stripping off enough armour to fit in a larger shield system while still keeping within the 30kT aether tonnage limit would break inter-buildability with the existing cruisers and there really wasn't much else that could be taken off; stripping of a turret of main guns would save enough mass but would be rejected out of hand. The Britannia team therefore took the opportunity to redo the entire hull and armour scheme of the class, incorporating one of the new technologies that the Admiralty had been interested in seeing; ceramic composite armour.

Developed by EDEN (Empire Defence Establishment Nimrod) ceramic composite armour interleaved layers of graphene between the ceramic neutronium plates to increase heat and energy dissipation. This meant the plates were no longer thermally limited so they could be thinner while providing the same nominal protection as the ticker ceramic only armour system. In practice this meant the same protection for less mass, that space and volume could be put towards other systems. The Centurion design made full use of this new armour system but also thinned out the effective armour protection, from 8yd HDAE (Duranium Armour Equivalent) down to only 6yd HDAE, almost all the saved space going towards the large GKN Rampart shield generator. There were also a few upgrades to the sensor system and the arguably long overdue addition of two ILIC (Iterative Loop Integration Control) ECCM system that could cut through enemy jamming and be slaved to any of the onboard fire control systems.

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Centurion Mk.I Prototype class Cruiser      30,000 tons       1,025 Crew       6,305.2 BP       TCS 600    TH 3,600    EM 3,570
6000 km/s      Armour 6-86       Shields 119-476       HTK 200      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 20      PPV 225.28
Maint Life 1.08 Years     MSP 2,379    AFR 686%    IFR 9.5%    1YR 2,045    5YR 30,675    Max Repair 900 MSP
Captain    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Rolls Royce Griffon Mk.III MPD-1800 (2)    Power 3600    Fuel Use 50.31%    Signature 1800    Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 2,100,000 Gallons   Range 25 billion km (48 days at full power)
GKN Rampart Mk.II Epsilon Band/119 Farad Shield Generator (1)     Recharge Time 476 seconds (0.3 per second)

Vickers 10" Mk.I Railgun V50/C4 (20x4)    Range 250,000km     TS: 6,000 km/s     Power 15-4     RM 50,000 km    ROF 20       
Sterling Mk.II Twin Coil Turret (20k) (4x8)    Range 30,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 30,000 km    ROF 5       
Marconi Type 903 TFC 160-20000 (2)     Max Range: 160,000 km   TS: 20,000 km/s     94 88 81 75 69 62 56 50 44 38
Racal Type 502 BFC 320-6000 (2)     Max Range: 320,000 km   TS: 6,000 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Brown Curtis Gorgon Mk.I SFR-B (4)     Total Power Output 100 kBTU/s   Exp 10%

Ferranti Type 600SR 46m/R20 (1)     GPS 1680     Range 46.6m km    Resolution 20
Racal Type 250EMWS 700k/R1 (1)     GPS 21     Range 8.6m km    MCR 771.7k km    Resolution 1

Anderwave ILIC Mk.I ECCM (2)         
TRE Asprin Mk.I 10kMx ECM Projector

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

While some of the ideas in Centurion would eventually make their way into the main cruiser line, ultimately it was too big a change for not enough benefit. The County Mk.V filled the low-risk, upgradeable, niche while other designs had taken full advantage of not being inter-buildable to make more radical changes. The Britannia design office was far from upset by this, they retained a certain distrust of shields as they felt at anything below pre-Dreadnought scale they were too space inefficient compared to armour. The limited deployment of the County Mk.V and the swing away from shields in the later far more widespread variants suggest the Admiralty at least somewhat agreed.

As befitting a design from the main fleet design office the Centurion had been holo-simed and the Admiralty Tactical Office assessed it as broadly similar to a CountyMk.V. There were certain scenarios were the shield was more or less effective than an addition armour plate but given the variety of enemies the Empire had and was facing this was hardly decisive. Consequently in considering any what-ifs then it is likely it would have performed on average just as well as the actual cruiser squadrons that were deployed. Against the actual prompt, the Hatha Expedition, the Centurion's shields would certainly have saved the dockyard time for the repairs but were arguably overkill as the County Mk.Vs would also have been fine. While not a lost opportunity the Centurion is a vision on where the standard fleet cruiser line could have gone had the Admiralty not stuck to the path of gentle but sustained evolution of the County and it's sibling classes the City and Colony.

A lack of radical change is not something that the other submission to the competition can be accused of, as we shall see in Part II.
 
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2023, 07:39:31 PM »
I am, of course, the very least surprised member of these forums to see this work return to form.

Part I

And in fact we are now setting new precedents of form imported from the other forum. Excellent.

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from a naval perspective, the expedition entirely met it's objectives:

And thus all involved were satisfied, for what better objectives could there be?

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Various options for long range fire power were discussed and much of the report was bogged down with old arguments about the desirability or otherwise of plasma cannons as either a secondary or main weapon on a second line cruiser or dedicated planetary assault/support ship.

Clearly the report writers peruse these forums.

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Towards the end the report's authors noted that had the cruisers been protected by shields then such repairs would likely would not have been required. As this idea did not involve yet more circular discussion about plasma weapons, a subject that was hurled back to the weapons doctrine sub-committee with almost unseemly haste, it was only the part of the document the Fleet Lords particularly wanted to talk about.

And clearly, the First Lords are not members of these forums.

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a perfectly successful operation, marred only by the apparent inability of the Army to defeat a foe that could shoot back.

Simply maddening, that.

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It is unclear if the Admiralty deliberately left the scope [...] they just neglected to do so because they only expected minor tweaks to be suggested,

Me, every time I forget that shield generators actually take up a lot of tonnage.

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Developed by EDEN (Empire Defence Establishment Nimrod)

It always amuses when a perfectly serious company purporting to be the height of competence names itself "Nimrod". I realize there is a certain precedent for a rather more impressive connotation to the name than what the general public perceives, but as a member of the general public I choose to perceive the less impressive one.

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GKN Rampart Mk.II Epsilon Band/119 Farad Shield Generator

The use of Farads as the unit for shield strength is quite ingenious, not least because no one, including the actual scientists and engineers who work on capacitors, actually knows how much a Farad is other than "gesturing broadly a lot".

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Against the actual prompt, the Hatha Expedition, the Centurion's shields would certainly have saved the dockyard time for the repairs but were arguably overkill as the County Mk.Vs would also have been fine.

It is worth putting a stick in this bit, in all honesty it is not as if the dockyard time was a terrible strategic problem from the perspective of the Admiralty, after all the Expedition was already properly resolved by that point anyways, and the cost of repairs surely serves to justify a budget increase in the next set of talks.

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A lack of radical change is not something that the other submission to the competition can be accused of, as we shall see in Part II.

Excellent. Next summer's update should be properly exciting, then.  ;D
 
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2023, 03:10:20 AM »
I am, of course, the very least surprised member of these forums to see this work return to form.
As it should be.
And in fact we are now setting new precedents of form imported from the other forum. Excellent.
I will raise standards here, just at a suitably slow and majestic pace.

And thus all involved were satisfied, for what better objectives could there be?
The Admiralty cannot imagine, yet some scruffy ground types keep trying to complain about something. Fortunately the Royal Marine guards are keeping them outside.

Clearly the report writers peruse these forums.

And clearly, the First Lords are not members of these forums.
This may be why they have time to run the Admiralty.

Me, every time I forget that shield generators actually take up a lot of tonnage.
They are surprisingly large aren't they?

It always amuses when a perfectly serious company purporting to be the height of competence names itself "Nimrod". I realize there is a certain precedent for a rather more impressive connotation to the name than what the general public perceives, but as a member of the general public I choose to perceive the less impressive one.
For the US general public perhaps, I think the less impressive definition didn't survive crossing the Atlantic as I've no idea what you are talking about. Or I am entirely out of touch with popular culture, also possible.

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The use of Farads as the unit for shield strength is quite ingenious, not least because no one, including the actual scientists and engineers who work on capacitors, actually knows how much a Farad is other than "gesturing broadly a lot".
It is a wonderfully vague unit for such things.

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It is worth putting a stick in this bit, in all honesty it is not as if the dockyard time was a terrible strategic problem from the perspective of the Admiralty, after all the Expedition was already properly resolved by that point anyways, and the cost of repairs surely serves to justify a budget increase in the next set of talks.
The problem was that the Army were demanding lots of budget to deal with this nasty enemy that can shoot back and which their current guns can't shoot through. So if nothing else the Admiralty needed very expensive plans for new ships that can, reluctantly, be cut down and end up with what they wanted in the first place.

Excellent. Next summer's update should be properly exciting, then.  ;D
I do hope to get Part II out this year. I'm not saying when this year, but if you take an 8/9 month gap as typical then I think it should just squeak in.
 
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Re: Books of the Imperial Library: Unbuilt Warships of the Royal Navy
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2023, 08:47:55 AM »
It always amuses when a perfectly serious company purporting to be the height of competence names itself "Nimrod". I realize there is a certain precedent for a rather more impressive connotation to the name than what the general public perceives, but as a member of the general public I choose to perceive the less impressive one.
For the US general public perhaps, I think the less impressive definition didn't survive crossing the Atlantic as I've no idea what you are talking about. Or I am entirely out of touch with popular culture, also possible.

Must be unique to the Freedom Hemisphere, then; around these parts a "nimrod" is a stupid person, generously. I'm honestly not sure why, but I think it might be the fault of Looney Tunes.

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The problem was that the Army were demanding lots of budget to deal with this nasty enemy that can shoot back and which their current guns can't shoot through. So if nothing else the Admiralty needed very expensive plans for new ships that can, reluctantly, be cut down and end up with what they wanted in the first place.

This is reasonable enough I suppose. If it wasn't the Army it would be the Air Force or something, and that would make even less sense in this bold and bright future of naval aviation.

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I do hope to get Part II out this year. I'm not saying when this year, but if you take an 8/9 month gap as typical then I think it should just squeak in.

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