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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: Neutron on May 12, 2012, 06:27:19 PM
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I've searched extensively to try to find the answer to this question, but haven't found it, so here's my question:
I started a Conventional Start and selected the option to have all wormholes start with Gates in place. I played through a few years gametime before I finally had the Grav-Sensor technology I needed to spot the wormholes (I like building up from scratch). My Gravship found a wormhole but there was no Gate on it. Thinking this to maybe be a glitch, I ran time till I found a 2nd wormhole, but this one had no gate either.
So my question is actually multi-part:
Is the "All wormholes have Gates" setup option not possible with Conventional starts?
OR Was this a glitch of some kind?
OR Was there a starter tech other than Grav Sensors that I needed to research to allow me to see the gates on the wormholes? (There was no red box indicating any gate on either of those wormholes, and my ships couldn't pass through).
OR Was it something that was none of the above that was preventing this option from working?
I appreciate any help anyone can give me on this, as I really love building up from scratch with Conventional starts, but for some reason really hate having to mess with jump engines or building jumpgates manually. Thanks in advance. :)
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Take this with a grain of salt, cause I could be wrong. But if I recall my starts with jump gates enabled for some reason the Sol system never has them, they exist on all the other systems but not in Sol. The solution is to manually ad them yourself from the system info screen.
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Whenever my gravships discover JPs that have randomly pre-placed gates it is marked immediately(this without the option on) so that sounds like there might be a bug.
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To me it seems logical that Steve did this on purpose as a slow conventional start could be too easily wiped out if all the doors were open.
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To me it seems logical that Steve did this on purpose as a slow conventional start could be too easily wiped out if all the doors were open.
The purpose of this option was to let people who didn't want to mess with jump engines/gate builders to turn it off, so I doubt that this is the case.
Question for OP: Have you tried giving a jump order anyway (even though you don't see a jump gate icon)? There's a possibility it's set up so that it doesn't actually display the JG if this option is on....
John
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Adding the JG is not difficult to do for the few that are in the starting system.
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Confirmed that this is a bug. I've fixed it for the next version.
Steve
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Thanks for addressing this with a fix :)
Till the fix comes with the new update, the first reply was correct; I simply had to add jumpgates to my starting system in SM mode. All new systems that I found already had jumpgates installed.
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Hello,
This is my first post and I am sorry to necro this Thread, but. . . I also did choose the conv start and am pretty new to this game. . .
So is it like my starting system needs to have Jump Gates build ON TOP of Jump Points, for my Hyper Capable ships to traverse?
If so. . . do I have to do it with SM or can I just research the tech to build jump gates and then build them the normal way?
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In order to jump through a jump point, there has to either be 1) a jump ship (with sufficient size capability) OR 2) a jump gate present. This is for standard transit - for squadron transit you need the jumping ships to be in a TG containing a jumping ship with size capacity able to handle any ship in the TG, and the number of ships in the TG must not exceed the max squadron size of the jump ship's drive.
John
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Hello,
This is my first post and I am sorry to necro this Thread, but. . . I also did choose the conv start and am pretty new to this game. . .
So is it like my starting system needs to have Jump Gates build ON TOP of Jump Points, for my Hyper Capable ships to traverse?
If so. . . do I have to do it with SM or can I just research the tech to build jump gates and then build them the normal way?
Jump gates allow ships with no jump engine to use the jump point. Hyper engines are used to speed travel between distant companions in multi-star systems.
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I have a question on random jump gates on jump points: are they in the v6.1 of the game still?
I turned off the option to have jump gates on all jump points but does this mean that I have no chance of finding a gate on any jump point or what?
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Yes, there are still random Ancient Jump Gates.
You can remove them via SM if that's a concern.
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No I don't want to remove them I was basically not going to allow gate development until the BuSurvey ships found one but I've surveyed a fair few jump points now without finding a gate and was curious if they were prevented from showing up or something.