First serious attepts to build a fleet

[d.rodin (OP)]

This is a first serious playtrough in C Aurora with zero real combat experience.
Looks like i am lucky enough, it is Inertial Fusion Drive times and i didn't meet anyone, maybe it is because i still surveyed only 16 systems.  (general idea - survey only those things that i may touch in near future)
12 Habitable colonies in 3 adjusted to Sol systems with practically only one problem - huge shortage of Gallicite.  Soon, terraforming of Barnard Star II will be completed (300 orbital terraforming modules are working day and nigh to made this 0. 39 vs Earth terraforming rate world habitable) and i will finally start extracting its 33 millions of Gallicite with accessibility 1.
After that it will be time to look further.
And i need home defence fleet.

First ships entered service were "Gnevny" series kinetic frigates with basic area defence and close combat capability:

Gnevny-K M5A class Kinetic Frigate      4 903 tons       151 Crew       3 813. 6 BP       TCS 98    TH 64    EM 0
8159 km/s      Armour 6-25       Shields 0-0       HTK 36      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 33      PPV 26. 8
Maint Life 3. 89 Years     MSP 2 258    AFR 64%    IFR 0. 9%    1YR 237    5YR 3 550    Max Repair 1100 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive  EP800. 00 (1)    Power 800    Fuel Use 12. 65%    Signature 64. 00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres    Range 145. 1 billion km (205 days at full power)

12cm Railgun V80/C8 (2x4)    Range 160 000km     TS: 12 500 km/s     Power 6-8     Accuracy Modifier 100%     RM 80 000 km    ROF 5       
Single Gauss Cannon R600-100 Turret (2x5)    Range 60 000km     TS: 50000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 60 000 km    ROF 5       
Beam Fire Control R200-TS50000 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 50 000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Beam Fire Control R400-TS12500 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 400 000 km   TS: 12 500 km/s     98 95 92 90 88 85 82 80 78 75
Inertial Confinement Fusion Reactor R13 (2)     Total Power Output 25. 6    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor AS27-R1 (5%) (1)     GPS 60     Range 27. 6m km    MCR 3m km    Resolution 1

ECCM-6 (1)         ECM 60

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

After that were "Kirov" class Missle Cruisers:

Kirov M5A class Missile Cruiser      19 928 tons       454 Crew       8 569. 5 BP       TCS 399    TH 256    EM 0
8028 km/s      Armour 20-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 117      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 44      PPV 48
Maint Life 3. 07 Years     MSP 5 362    AFR 227%    IFR 3. 2%    1YR 855    5YR 12 830    Max Repair 1100 MSP
Magazine 820   
Captain    Control Rating 3   BRG   AUX   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive  EP800. 00 (4)    Power 3200    Fuel Use 12. 65%    Signature 64. 00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2 000 000 Litres    Range 142. 8 billion km (205 days at full power)

CIWS-500 (6x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 50 000 km/s     ROF 5       
Size 6. 00 Missile Launcher (8)     Missile Size: 6    Rate of Fire 15
Missile Fire Control FC362-R100 (5%) (1)     Range 362. 9m km    Resolution 100
Medium ASM M5 (128)    Speed: 40 000 km/s    End: 26. 4m     Range: 63. 4m km    WH: 25    Size: 6    TH: 533/320/160

Active Search Sensor AS256-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 30000     Range 256. 6m km    Resolution 100

ECCM-6 (1)         ECM 60

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Feeling that Gnevny frigates are not enough for covering Missle Cruisers and future Light Carriers, "Azov" class Light Cruisers were added:

Azov M5 class Light Cruiser      9 898 tons       289 Crew       6 637. 6 BP       TCS 198    TH 128    EM 0
8082 km/s      Armour 10-41       Shields 0-0       HTK 66      Sensors 100/100/0/0      DCR 68      PPV 57. 6
Maint Life 4. 60 Years     MSP 4 953    AFR 98%    IFR 1. 4%    1YR 381    5YR 5 713    Max Repair 1100 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive  EP800. 00 (2)    Power 1600    Fuel Use 12. 65%    Signature 64. 00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 143. 8 billion km (205 days at full power)

25cm Railgun V80/C10 (3x4)    Range 400 000km     TS: 12 500 km/s     Power 15-10     Accuracy Modifier 100%     RM 80 000 km    ROF 10       
Single Gauss Cannon R600-100 Turret (4x5)    Range 60 000km     TS: 50000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 60 000 km    ROF 5       
Beam Fire Control R400-TS12500 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 400 000 km   TS: 12 500 km/s     98 95 92 90 88 85 82 80 78 75
Beam Fire Control R200-TS50000 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 50 000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant R63 (1)     Total Power Output 63. 2    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor AS27-R1 (5%) (1)     GPS 60     Range 27. 6m km    MCR 3m km    Resolution 1
EM Sensor EM2. 50-100 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 100     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  79. 1m km
Thermal Sensor TH2. 50-100 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 100     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  79. 1m km

ECCM-6 (1)         ECM 60

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Design of Survelliance Cruisers and Light Carriers with Fighter-Scouts and Fighter Bombers is underway.

[macks]

Do the Gnevny's travel with supply ships? They might run out of maintenance space at some point I think, but everything else looks pretty good from my limited perspective. Great range and deployment time on all three classes, they could definitely patrol for awhile alone.

[Energyz]

If you are at already at Inertial fusion tech, you probably want to stop using rail guns to something better (Particule lance, lasers). That kinetic frigate seems to have good PD capability, but your fleet as a whole need more layers of PD (AMM and laser).
You need to thin out the ennemy salvo unless you have a stupid amount of those frigates.

Your missile cruiser design on the other hand is quite bad: Only 8 missiles per salvo for a 20k tons ship? My fighter-bomber does the same. You must densify your salvo by reducing the size of your launchers, as rate of fire is not important for ASM

Also the range of your MFC is huge compared to your missile range, it's useless unless you intend to shoot fighters with your 25 damages missiles (probably overkill). I would personnally reduce the range and the warhead of the missile and make it a lot faster.

[d.rodin (OP)]

Do the Gnevny's travel with supply ships? They might run out of maintenance space at some point I think, but everything else looks pretty good from my limited perspective.  Great range and deployment time on all three classes, they could definitely patrol for awhile alone.

All those ships designed to operate in one group : 10x Gnevny + 4 Kirov + 4 Azov + Future Light Carriers + Future Survelliance Cruisers + Future Command Ships + Possible Future BattleCruisers.
About Fleet Supply / Oridinance / Tankers - i tried design Fleet Tankers, and i got terrible abominations, just as Jump Cruisers - so i wll look at them later again.

[d.rodin (OP)]

If you are at already at Inertial fusion tech, you probably want to stop using rail guns to something better (Particule lance, lasers).  That kinetic frigate seems to have good PD capability, but your fleet as a whole need more layers of PD (AMM and laser). 
You need to thin out the ennemy salvo unless you have a stupid amount of those frigates.

Your missile cruiser design on the other hand is quite bad: Only 8 missiles per salvo for a 20k tons ship? My fighter-bomber does the same.  You must densify your salvo by reducing the size of your launchers, as rate of fire is not important for ASM

Also the range of your MFC is huge compared to your missile range, it's useless unless you intend to shoot fighters with your 25 damages missiles (probably overkill).  I would personnally reduce the range and the warhead of the missile and make it a lot faster.

I've researched far enough only Rail and Gauss tech, so i am tied to them for some time.
All my beam fire controls / missle fire controls have more capabilities than armament, because of ECM and because i don't know how it affect targeting in practice and i was not sure about missle range.

I had doubts about Missle Cruisers, thats why i intended to add Fighter-Bombers to increase 1st salvo size plus retain the ability to fire again, because i think that 10x Gnevny Frigates will not be enough to finish battle with empty fighters and box lauchers.

More PD layers - i was thinking about combined Jump + AMM Missle Defence Cruiser / Destroyer.

[d.rodin (OP)]

With colonisation of Barnard Star II, shipbuilding program got some speed bump:

First 4 "Admiral Nakhimov" Light Carriers were build:

Admiral Nakhimov M5 class Light Carrier      24 736 tons       375 Crew       7 936. 2 BP       TCS 495    TH 320    EM 0
8085 km/s      Armour 10-75       Shields 0-0       HTK 111      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 46      PPV 0
Maint Life 3. 39 Years     MSP 8 008    AFR 306%    IFR 4. 2%    1YR 1 060    5YR 15 900    Max Repair 1100 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 6 000 tons     Magazine 772   
Captain    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   PFC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 120    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive  EP800. 00 (5)    Power 4000    Fuel Use 12. 65%    Signature 64. 00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 000 Litres    Range 287. 6 billion km (411 days at full power)

Medium ASM M5 (128)    Speed: 40 000 km/s    End: 26. 4m     Range: 63. 4m km    WH: 25    Size: 6    TH: 533/320/160

ECM 60

Strike Group
2x Tu-142 M5 Fighter-Scout   Speed: 37085 km/s    Size: 7. 77
10x Tu-22 M5 Fighter-bomber   Speed: 35235 km/s    Size: 8. 17

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Tu-142 M5 class Fighter-Scout      389 tons       18 Crew       738. 1 BP       TCS 8    TH 23    EM 0
37085 km/s      Armour 1-4       Shields 0-0       HTK 7      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 0
Maint Life 18. 72 Years     MSP 594    AFR 2%    IFR 0. 0%    1YR 3    5YR 48    Max Repair 300. 0 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive 300% EP96. 00 (3)    Power 288    Fuel Use 985. 90%    Signature 7. 68    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 50 000 Litres    Range 2. 4 billion km (17 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor AS202-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 15000     Range 202. 8m km    Resolution 100

ECM 20

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction

Tu-22 M5 class Fighter-bomber      409 tons       16 Crew       595. 9 BP       TCS 8    TH 23    EM 0
35235 km/s      Armour 1-4       Shields 0-0       HTK 6      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 12
Maint Life 25. 83 Years     MSP 455    AFR 3%    IFR 0. 0%    1YR 1    5YR 20    Max Repair 132 MSP
Magazine 12   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive 300% EP96. 00 (3)    Power 288    Fuel Use 985. 90%    Signature 7. 68    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 30 000 Litres    Range 1. 3 billion km (10 hours at full power)

Size 6. 00 Box Launcher (2)     Missile Size: 6    Hangar Reload 122 minutes    MF Reload 20 hours
Missile Fire Control FC181-R100 (5%) (1)     Range 181. 4m km    Resolution 100
Medium ASM M5 (2)    Speed: 40 000 km/s    End: 26. 4m     Range: 63. 4m km    WH: 25    Size: 6    TH: 533/320/160

Active Search Sensor AS90-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 3000     Range 90. 7m km    Resolution 100

Small Craft ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction

[d.rodin (OP)]

with feedback above and increased number of Azov Light Cruisers (from 4 to 10) Kirovs got redesign:

Dumped 4 CIWS, with 10x Gnevny and 10x Azov in group - area defence got stronger. 
Salvo size from 4 cruisers increased from 32 to 128 + 80 from fighter-bombers, reaching 208 total. 
Missles for some time will stay same, until got redesigned on next technological level. 

Kirov M5M class Missile Cruiser      19 912 tons       345 Crew       8 406.  6 BP       TCS 398    TH 256    EM 0
8035 km/s      Armour 20-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 120      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 80      PPV 192
Maint Life 4.  40 Years     MSP 6 877    AFR 159%    IFR 2.  2%    1YR 572    5YR 8 585    Max Repair 1100 MSP
Magazine 964   
Captain    Control Rating 3   BRG   AUX   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive  EP800.  00 (4)    Power 3200    Fuel Use 12.  65%    Signature 64.  00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2 000 000 Litres    Range 142.  9 billion km (205 days at full power)

CIWS-500 (2x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 50 000 km/s     ROF 5       
Size 6.  00 Missile Launcher (40.  0% Reduction) (32)     Missile Size: 6.  00    Rate of Fire 185
Missile Fire Control FC362-R100 (5%) (1)     Range 362.  9m km    Resolution 100
Medium ASM M5 (160)    Speed: 40 000 km/s    End: 26.  4m     Range: 63.  4m km    WH: 25    Size: 6    TH: 533/320/160

Active Search Sensor AS202-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 15000     Range 202.  8m km    Resolution 100

ECCM-6 (1)         ECM 60

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[macks]

Really impressed with the amount of stuff you got into the fighter scout and bomber, my fighters it feels like I'm struggling with every ton and I still don't get a great result, like 3 size 3.5 launchers in a 250t bomber

[d.rodin (OP)]

Something is still wrong or with my fighters or with missles : both go about 40k - that means that or fighters are too fast or missle to slow.
And range of fighters is not sufficient: Fighters from fighter base on Earth cant reach colony on Titan for example

[Person012345]

Something is still wrong or with my fighters or with missles : both go about 40k - that means that or fighters are too fast or missle to slow.
And range of fighters is not sufficient: Fighters from fighter base on Earth cant reach colony on Titan for example

For reference my magnetic confinement tech, anti-pd heavy spoiler, size 3 missiles in one of my current games travel at about 77,000 km/s. These sport a relatively small warhead, are short range (10m km) and are intended to overcome significant PD with good speed and great numbers (size 5 warheads don't sound too scary until you get hit by 500 of them). For my capital ships I used the same basic missile type but I used 2 of them mounted inside a longer range stage that increases the range to 700m km with the cruise stage travelling around 11,000km/s and seperating 9m km from the target. This worked against the target I had designed them for. My fighters travelled at 20,000km/s with a weight limited to less than 150 tons because I wanted 100 of them per 20,000 ton carrier.

I wouldn't necessarily say it was inherently a problem that your fighters and missiles are the same speed, it really depends on what you're fighting and what your needs are. But I would say, the fighters should be treated kind of like a "first stage" for the missile. They need to be small enough to avoid targeting until they are in launch range, fast enough to escape from any enemies after having launched and return to the carrier (obviously the faster they are the more sorties can be achieved in a given time). For range, when it comes to regular carrier ops I would say take a look at your typical ship-to-ship combat missile and figure out what range increase over that you want from your fighter-missile combo. Obviously if you have a specific task in mind (for example being able to redeploy between two colonies at will) then there may need to be special considerations (maybe warranting of a new design).

[d.rodin (OP)]

I still don't know what i am fighting - surveyed 25 system and still silence, not even ancient ruins.
I was thinking about size 2-4 light missles for overwhelming enemy PD / anti-fighter weapon after Energyz feedback and looks like i will made some cheap sub 5000 "small Kirov" for them.
0. 16 litre fuel use tech is almost researched and i will redesign size 6 missle and add "light one"

Same speed fighters and missles means that they are not balanced, i was not sure earlier what exactly was wrong.

Primarily i need fighters for carrier-ops, but also i was thinking about planetary defence : fighter base on Earth to cover Sol system + same for other core systems.  (Alpha Centauri also have colonies with 1b+ distance).  For now i think i will go with just Tu-22 ER (extended range) version with more efficient engines (after 0. 16 lites tech)

[d.rodin (OP)]

for Sol system fighter defence, question of fighters range was solved by adding 5 colonies in asteroid belt with 10 DST, 4 Cargo , 4 Refueling, 4 Ordinance stations + Fuel / Ordinance supplies each in every direction + i got total EM / Thermal passive sensor coverage up to Jupiter orbit.   Everything up to Saturn orbit is now within less 24 hours striking distance.   Alpha Centauri hovewer don't have any bodies that could grant that possibility.   No fighters modification need for now.

Additionally Gnevny class become destroyers and got upgrade to Laser weaponary and got extended lifetime and durability:

Gnevny M5 class Destroyer      4 971 tons       156 Crew       3 925. 7 BP       TCS 99    TH 64    EM 0
8047 km/s      Armour 6-25       Shields 0-0       HTK 38      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 34      PPV 26. 8
Maint Life 5. 03 Years     MSP 2 774    AFR 49%    IFR 0. 7%    1YR 183    5YR 2 742    Max Repair 1100 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Inertial Fusion Drive  EP800. 00 (1)    Power 800    Fuel Use 12. 65%    Signature 64. 00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres    Range 143. 1 billion km (205 days at full power)

15. 0cm C10 Far X-Ray Laser (2)    Range 400 000km     TS: 12 500 km/s     Power 6-10     RM 80 000 km    ROF 5       
Single Gauss Cannon R600-100 Turret (2x5)    Range 60 000km     TS: 50000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 60 000 km    ROF 5       
Beam Fire Control R200-TS50000 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 50 000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Beam Fire Control R400-TS12500 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 400 000 km   TS: 12 500 km/s     98 95 92 90 88 85 82 80 78 75
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant R16 (2)     Total Power Output 32    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor AS27-R1 (5%) (1)     GPS 60     Range 27. 6m km    MCR 3m km    Resolution 1

ECCM-6 (1)         ECM 60

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[d.rodin (OP)]

Finally, after starting new game in 1.10, i meet first aliens. (not counting precursors, who sitting on planet and acting like furniture).
Suddenly it turns out that i am outgunned, outnumbered, outranged and my ships are 3x slower than enemy ships. 200+ wrecks of Light Carriers, Cruisers, Destroyers and fighters floating in Kapteyns Star system with more than 30 millions civilian losses on Kapteyns Star A-1 border colony are silent reminder of this shocking defeat.
Critical design error : lack of Active Sensors on missles led to huge overkills. Doctrine flaw : in this game i didn't design missle cruisers at all.
My retreating fleet was chased down and annihilated in less than 10 minutes.

Enemy ships can kite me easily, right now they have 2x speed advantage and have confirmed 1.1m km Laser range. My newest BFC have 1m km range and my top damage laser : Advanced Spinal Mount 60.0cm C16 Near Gamma Ray Laser with 94 dmg is still 3x time weaker. Missles were chosen as only avaliable solution.
My earlier focused investment in shipyards and good mineral stockpile was core reason in my survival in this game : i can produce 20 x 5000 tonn, 20 x 15000 tonn, 20 x 25000 tonn, 10 x 35000 tonn, 50 x 1000 tonn ships simultaneously.
For next ~10 years i go into "dead defence" mode. Enemy has confirmed path to every 3 colonised systems that lead to Earth. Without constant fleet prsence in each system moving further is too risky.

My saviors (first 10 of them entered service 2 weeks before first assault on my core worlds):
Kirov G8 Missle Cruisers:

Kirov G8 class Missile Cruiser      19 987 tons       529 Crew       14 752.5 BP       TCS 400    TH 250    EM 0
15635 km/s      Armour 20-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 143      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 86      PPV 115.2
Maint Life 4.66 Years     MSP 11 994    AFR 123%    IFR 1.7%    1YR 900    5YR 13 506    Max Repair 2539.0625 MSP
Magazine 864   
Captain    Control Rating 3   BRG   AUX   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 125% EP1562.50 (4)    Power 6250.0    Fuel Use 13.81%    Signature 62.500    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 2 000 000 Litres    Range 130.4 billion km (96 days at full power)

Size 6.00 Missile Launcher (40.0% Reduction) (48)     Missile Size: 6    Rate of Fire 150
Missile Fire Control FC296-R100 (5%) (1)     Range 296.3m km    Resolution 100
Medium ASM G8 (144)    Speed: 105 000 km/s    End: 2.7m     Range: 16.7m km    WH: 16    Size: 6    TH: 2450/1470/735

Active Search Sensor AS234-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 20000     Range 234.2m km    Resolution 100

ECCM-7 (1)         ECM 70

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Right now 25 in service : 20 constantly deployed in Struwe 2398 core system (0.8 bln population), covering primary invasion path, 5 lost (run out of missles, 1 last surviving enemy ship out of ~12 was enough).
Total planned : 60. 20 per path to Sol + 20 as fire brigade / reinforcement.

Only ships that survived Kapteyns Star massacre:
Enemy ships have no missles, but i keep them to fight off enemy FAC's or Fighters.

Ognevoy G8 class Escord Destroyers:

Ognevoy G8 class Destroyer Escort      4 996 tons       157 Crew       4 056.7 BP       TCS 100    TH 63    EM 0
15639 km/s      Armour 5-26       Shields 0-0       HTK 57      Sensors 40/40/0/0      DCR 37      PPV 15
Maint Life 5.48 Years     MSP 3 552    AFR 29%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 198    5YR 2 976    Max Repair 2539.0625 MSP
Magazine 315    Cryogenic Berths 200   
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 125% EP1562.50 (1)    Power 1562.5    Fuel Use 13.81%    Signature 62.500    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres    Range 130.5 billion km (96 days at full power)

Size 1 Missile Launcher (15)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC63-R1 (5%) (1)     Range 63.8m km    Resolution 1
Small AMM G8 (315)    Speed: 120 000 km/s    End: 2m     Range: 14.6m km    WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 3880/2328/1164

Active Search Sensor AS50-R1 (5%) (1)     GPS 200     Range 50.5m km    MCR 4.5m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-40.0 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  50m km
EM Sensor EM1.0-40.0 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  50m km

ECM 70

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Right now : 20 in service.
Planned : 80 (as Kirovs).

To increase resistance to enemy FAC's / Fighters Gnevny class destroyers were redesigned in Missle Destroyers:

Gnevny G8 class Missile Destroyer      4 997 tons       152 Crew       4 001.5 BP       TCS 100    TH 63    EM 0
15634 km/s      Armour 5-26       Shields 0-0       HTK 46      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 7      PPV 25.6
Maint Life 5.50 Years     MSP 3 503    AFR 29%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 195    5YR 2 922    Max Repair 2539.0625 MSP
Magazine 256   
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 125% EP1562.50 (1)    Power 1562.5    Fuel Use 13.81%    Signature 62.500    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres    Range 130.4 billion km (96 days at full power)

Size 4.0 Missile Launcher (40.0% Reduction) (16)     Missile Size: 4    Rate of Fire 120
Missile Fire Control FC122-R20 (5%) (1)     Range 122.5m km    Resolution 20
Light ASM G8 (64)    Speed: 105 000 km/s    End: 1.6m     Range: 10.2m km    WH: 6    Size: 4    TH: 2380/1428/714

Active Search Sensor AS136-R20 (5%) (1)     GPS 4000     Range 137m km    Resolution 20

ECCM-7 (1)         ECM 70

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Right now in service : 0. Currently Building : 20
Planned : 80.

Just in case Beam Ships are still being designed and build:

Sevastopol G8 class Cruiser      14 997 tons       494 Crew       20 592.3 BP       TCS 300    TH 188    EM 7 110
15628 km/s      Armour 15-54       Shields 237-355       HTK 112      Sensors 40/40/0/0      DCR 75      PPV 71
Maint Life 4.24 Years     MSP 13 087    AFR 118%    IFR 1.6%    1YR 1 168    5YR 17 517    Max Repair 3000 MSP
Cryogenic Berths 400   
Captain    Control Rating 3   BRG   AUX   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 125% EP1562.50 (3)    Power 4687.5    Fuel Use 13.81%    Signature 62.500    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 500 000 Litres    Range 130.4 billion km (96 days at full power)
Omicron S237 / R355 Shields (1)     Recharge Time 355 seconds (0.7 per second)

52.50cm C16 Near Gamma Ray Laser (1)    Range 1 000 000km     TS: 15 628 km/s     Power 72-16     RM 100 000 km    ROF 25       
25.0cm C16 Near Gamma Ray Laser (4)    Range 1 000 000km     TS: 15 628 km/s     Power 16-16     RM 100 000 km    ROF 5       
Single 12cm C16 Near Gamma Ray Laser Turret (4x1)    Range 400 000km     TS: 60000 km/s     Power 4-16     RM 100 000 km    ROF 5       
Beam Fire Control R500-TS60000 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 500 000 km   TS: 60 000 km/s     98 96 94 92 90 88 86 84 82 80
Beam Fire Control R1000-TS15000 (5%) (1)     Max Range: 1 000 000 km   TS: 15 000 km/s     99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90
Plasma-core Anti-matter Power Plant R95 (2)     Total Power Output 189.8    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor AS86-R20 (5%) (1)     GPS 1600     Range 86.6m km    Resolution 20
Active Search Sensor AS31-R1 (5%) (1)     GPS 80     Range 31.9m km    MCR 2.9m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-40.0 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  50m km
EM Sensor EM1.0-40.0 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  50m km

ECCM-7 (1)         ECM 70

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Right now in service: 20.
Planned : 20.

[d.rodin (OP)]

Since enemy ships are much fast than mine, for future more active military actions i need reliable information of enemy fleet presence and location:

Zenit class Surveillance Cruiser (after Cloak Efficiency research, Cloaking Device will be added):

Zenit G8 class Surveillance Cruiser      9 321 tons       243 Crew       10 583.1 BP       TCS 186    TH 125    EM 0
16764 km/s      Armour 20-39       Shields 0-0       HTK 59      Sensors 200/200/0/0      DCR 74      PPV 0
Maint Life 6.06 Years     MSP 9 935    AFR 50%    IFR 0.7%    1YR 463    5YR 6 952    Max Repair 2539.0625 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 1 000 tons     Cryogenic Berths 400   
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 20    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 125% EP1562.50 (2)    Power 3125.0    Fuel Use 13.81%    Signature 62.500    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 139.8 billion km (96 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor AS331-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 40000     Range 331.2m km    Resolution 100
Active Search Sensor AS193-R20 (5%) (1)     GPS 8000     Range 193.7m km    Resolution 20
Active Search Sensor AS477-R300 (5%) (1)     GPS 120000     Range 477.7m km    Resolution 300
Active Search Sensor AS71-R1 (5%) (1)     GPS 400     Range 71.4m km    MCR 6.4m km    Resolution 1
EM Sensor EM5-200 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 200     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  111.8m km
Thermal Sensor TH5-200 (5%) (1)     Sensitivity 200     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  111.8m km

ECM 70

Strike Group
2x Tu-142 G8 Recon Fighter   Speed: 46145 km/s    Size: 9.75

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

And its recon fighters:

Tu-142 G8 class Recon Fighter      488 tons       17 Crew       1 160.8 BP       TCS 10    TH 18    EM 0
46145 km/s      Armour 3-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 6      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 0
Maint Life 10.74 Years     MSP 743    AFR 4%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 12    5YR 177    Max Repair 731.25 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 300% EP450.00 (1)    Power 450    Fuel Use 355.76%    Signature 18.00    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 150 000 Litres    Range 15.6 billion km (3 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor AS234-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 20000     Range 234.2m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction

Since i can't purely rely on Kirov's for defence (they need maintenance, ammunition has to be in right time and place) and even 1 hour of fleets absence can be fatal for colonies, Missle FAC's are planned to build:

Udaloy-M G8 class Fast Attack Craft      1 000 tons       25 Crew       1 595.2 BP       TCS 20    TH 36    EM 0
45006 km/s      Armour 1-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 3      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 7.2
Maint Life 5.24 Years     MSP 698    AFR 11%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 42    5YR 637    Max Repair 1462.5 MSP
Magazine 48   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 6 days    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 300% EP900.00 (1)    Power 900    Fuel Use 251.56%    Signature 36.00    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 250 000 Litres    Range 17.9 billion km (4 days at full power)

Size 6.00 Box Launcher ( 8 )     Missile Size: 6    Hangar Reload 122 minutes    MF Reload 20 hours
Missile Fire Control FC209-R100 (5%) (1)     Range 209.5m km    Resolution 100
Medium ASM G8 ( 8 )    Speed: 105 000 km/s    End: 2.7m     Range: 16.7m km    WH: 16    Size: 6    TH: 2450/1470/735

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Udaloy-AS-R100 G8 class Fast Scout Craft      990 tons       38 Crew       2 038.3 BP       TCS 20    TH 36    EM 0
45466 km/s      Armour 1-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 9      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
Maint Life 11.99 Years     MSP 1 930    AFR 5%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 25    5YR 372    Max Repair 1462.5 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 6 days    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 300% EP900.00 (1)    Power 900    Fuel Use 251.56%    Signature 36.00    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 300 000 Litres    Range 21.7 billion km (5 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor AS234-R100 (5%) (1)     GPS 20000     Range 234.2m km    Resolution 100

ECM 70

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Udaloy-AS-R20 G8 class Fast Scout Craft      990 tons       38 Crew       2 038.3 BP       TCS 20    TH 36    EM 0
45466 km/s      Armour 1-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 9      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
Maint Life 11.99 Years     MSP 1 930    AFR 5%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 25    5YR 372    Max Repair 1462.5 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 6 days    Morale Check Required   

Gas Core AM Drive 300% EP900.00 (1)    Power 900    Fuel Use 251.56%    Signature 36.00    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 300 000 Litres    Range 21.7 billion km (5 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor AS136-R20 (5%) (1)     GPS 4000     Range 137m km    Resolution 20

ECM 70

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Planned : 4 groups. Group : 12 x Udaloy-M G8, 2x Udaloy-AS-R100, 2x Udaloy-AS-R20

[Carnagus]

There's a huge disparity between your missile ranges and your fire control ranges.  Your missiles barely reach 17mkm while your fire controls see out to almost 300mkm.  Unless your enemy can cruise around at 70kkm/s I would decrease the "to hit chances" of your ASMs, and put the freed up space into more fuel, or alternatively if your doctrine is " small range big bang" into more warhead.  (the missiles the Gnevny uses are probably fine as they are if they are used against fighters, and those tend to be quite fast)

Your AMMs are fine, they are sort of "future proof" for when you decide to increase your AMM envelope to 10 mkm.

I would also put more fire controls on your missile ships.  Even though your ships are quite well armoured, a single unlucky penetrating hit could essentially neuter your offensive capabilities.  An other reason is to reduce the chances of overkill even if you fire missiles without sensors by dividing your firepower between several hostile ships (if you RP that your missiles have to have sensors then it's fine to have sensors, but fire control redundancy is still quite essential imho)

The Ognevoy and Gnevny does not have enough MSP to repair battle damage to the most expensive component (battle damage is max MSPx2 iirc)

I tend to design my ships (the exception being carriers) with half of the range you did, which frees up more space for weapons and such
Also your ASM Ships can only fire 3 salvos before they are out of missiles, which can be a problem.
But these two are more nitpicking than actual design flaws

These are the things I would personally change on these designs otherwise I think they are quite nice.