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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #285 on: December 11, 2020, 03:19:04 PM »
welp, all im suggesting is if you're taking the time to rein in economics, don't forget trade.  wasnt intending any general compare and contrast between editions, just using 4e as an example of how trade is sufficient by itself to blow up your universe, just because that's what happened to every 4e campaign that lasted 50 turns.

is it incompatible with the narrative arc for the coalition to partner and amalgamate the soviets?  i feel like that has become necessary in the circumstances.

Sorry, you just brought up an interesting subject.  I don't see trade becoming that big of an issue, but we'll see.  The Russian and Coalition fleets and their leadership want to unite the colonies.  Whether everyone feels that way is what we'll find out moving forward. 
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #286 on: December 22, 2020, 10:20:02 AM »
It seems that Humanity got some time, although I doubt that D’Bringi will keep the peace for long, most likely until they deal with Mintek. And they are now constructing some kind of carrier right? So their advantage will grow while Humanity will at best keep what they already have.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #287 on: December 22, 2020, 07:17:00 PM »
The humans will need a lot of good luck to continue to survive. If their enemies run into something that really harms them, even if only in the short term, it would help a lot.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #288 on: December 23, 2020, 01:29:30 PM »
1 colony (which is too unimportant to show up on your maps  ;D  ) for a couple of turns breathing space to regroup and reorganise, rather than permenantly loosing a huge amount of the fleet seems like a pretty good deal.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #289 on: December 24, 2020, 10:11:45 AM »
1 colony (which is too unimportant to show up on your maps  ;D  ) for a couple of turns breathing space to regroup and reorganise, rather than permenantly loosing a huge amount of the fleet seems like a pretty good deal.

Yeah, it was the Russian's furthest out colonial system.  And the first one conquered by the Rehorish.  The humans really, really needed this peace deal, and would have given a lot more to get it.  The D'Bringi Alliance also needed this peace deal, more than they were letting on.  They thought that the humans would be an easy walk-over after the surprise attack at the start of the war, and when they weren't and then the Mintek became a problem, they wanted out.  None of the races in the game really have the naval assets to fight a two-front war at this point, at least, not successfully.  If either side had been in a better position, they might have sensed the weakness on the other side and pushed harder. 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #290 on: December 24, 2020, 07:41:21 PM »
How do you discover NPR's in Starfire? Is it like Aurora where you can run into them while exploring, or did you need to create each one while you were setting up the game?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #291 on: December 25, 2020, 12:21:40 PM »
How do you discover NPR's in Starfire? Is it like Aurora where you can run into them while exploring, or did you need to create each one while you were setting up the game?

Aurora is a lot like Aurora in this case.  The rules give a percentage chance to discover NPR's on each habitable planet, and this chance is usually adjusted by the player to suit their taste.  I usually set up a few at the start as well, to provide the primary opponents or bad guys. 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #292 on: December 25, 2020, 12:27:21 PM »
Aurora is a lot like Aurora...

Are you sure about that?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #293 on: December 25, 2020, 12:34:07 PM »
 ;D Maybe he's been drinking because of the holiday?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #294 on: December 25, 2020, 04:24:45 PM »
;D Maybe he's been drinking because of the holiday?

Ha!  Maybe I'm just getting old!  I started to say "Starfire is a lot like Aurora", but then I realized that it was more properly "Aurora is a lot like Starfire", and apparently I ended up mashing the two together.  Oh well. 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #295 on: December 25, 2020, 09:20:15 PM »
Aurora is a lot like Aurora in this case.

Ahh yes, this floor is made out of floor  ;D

Thanks for the answer :)
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #296 on: December 31, 2020, 09:01:39 AM »
I see that the First Consul Faraz didn't learn anything from the Soviet experiences against the D'Bringi.
How much damage does it take to destroy a shipyard, was the initial proposal to go after the shipyards realistic?
What defences does Wunderland have against a retaliatory strike from the Tarek?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #297 on: December 31, 2020, 03:08:04 PM »
I see that the First Consul Faraz didn't learn anything from the Soviet experiences against the D'Bringi.
How much damage does it take to destroy a shipyard, was the initial proposal to go after the shipyards realistic?
What defences does Wunderland have against a retaliatory strike from the Tarek?

Shipyards take ten points of damage to destroy, but they are mounted on space stations, which have weak hulls and take 2x damage inside their shields and armor.  If the Wunderlanders had concentrated on the shipyards they likely could have destroyed them, but would have done less damage to their armed units as a consequence. 

The Wunderlanders have the fleet units that survived, as well as nine small beam-armed bases in orbit over their planet.  Against any kind of real fleet, the bases wouldn't be much of a threat, but against low tech escorts, well...

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #298 on: December 31, 2020, 05:47:04 PM »
So the Wunderlanders have no PDCs at all to provide cover for their damaged units and (eventual) shipyard?

It sounds like diverting enough firepower to destroy the shipyards would have been a big ask of the fleet and meant inflicting even fewer casualties on the Taurek.

The Tarek have 74% of their mobile units left and nearly 2 to 1 numbers advantage so I'm guessing the strategic play for them would be to chase down the rest of the Wunderlander fleet and thereby get control of interplanetary space.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #299 on: January 01, 2021, 06:42:23 AM »
I can't remember if this was ever mentioned, but what happened to the D'Bringi citizens in Brezhnev that joined the Soviets?