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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #615 on: November 05, 2022, 10:22:13 AM »
I'm getting afraid (not really, they kinda deserve it.), that after getting to Lothari home system, crews won't listen to commanders and will just throw as much missles as possible into Lothari capital.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #616 on: November 05, 2022, 12:36:42 PM »
I'm getting afraid (not really, they kinda deserve it.), that after getting to Lothari home system, crews won't listen to commanders and will just throw as much missles as possible into Lothari capital.

Don't worry, the Lothari Supreme Leader has a plan for that.  He definitely isn't insane, so there is nothing to worry about.  Trust the Leader!
 
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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #617 on: November 07, 2022, 10:27:47 AM »
So, what do the Auraii have left to defend the system?

And what do the 'light' monitors mean for the Alliance? Those are a couple sizes larger than anything they field. Can they repair, refit and field them themselves?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #618 on: November 07, 2022, 12:28:05 PM »
So, what do the Auraii have left to defend the system?

And what do the 'light' monitors mean for the Alliance? Those are a couple sizes larger than anything they field. Can they repair, refit and field them themselves?

The Aurarii have their Home Fleet, however, if I remember correctly it is smaller than the ships they sent to the Doraz system. 

Light Monitors are the next size class up from Superdreadnoughts.  The Alliance has deployed several squadrons of battleships and has two squadrons of superdreadnoughts under construction.  They are capable of building light monitors, from a tech standpoint, but have not yet done so.  The Alliance's primary striking arm continues to be fighters and battlecruisers, although this will probably slowly change over the coming years. 
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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #619 on: November 10, 2022, 04:44:02 PM »
Short question:
Is there any guide as to how read Starfire ships designs?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #620 on: November 11, 2022, 06:58:40 AM »
Short question:
Is there any guide as to how read Starfire ships designs?

I'll try to give you a quick go-by using this as a guide:
Code: [Select]
NARAITHSOL  class ML  AM2 33 XO Racks 165 Hull TL 8
[3]S0x16Aix16HQ(IIIII-It)H(IIIII-It)(IIIII-It)QWaWa(BbS)FcWaWaFcMgWaWaFcWaWa MgWaFcWaWaFcDzQMgDzWaDzDzWaDzDzFcZiDzWaDzDz!2WaDzMgXr?2LhQFcM7(IIIII-It)[4]
165 RCP  35 MCP    Trg:8  Bmp +4  Tem -2     Cost = 4816/722.4
HTK 105 S0x16  Aix16  Dzx10  Fcx7  Wax15  Mgx4 
400x SM, 400x SM-a

The first line is mostly obvious, I think. 

The second line is the ship design.  The number at the start is the ship's turn mode, or how far it has to move before turning.  The number at the end is the ship's movement speed.  The stuff in between is the ship's systems, with each letter representing a weapon, defense, or system of some sort.  For example, in this case (IIIII-It) indicates an engine room with an engine-tuner, while Wa is an advanced gun-missile launcher. 
 
The third line has a bunch of abbreviations: RCP=regular crew points, MCP=marine crew points, Trg=number of ships this unit can target, BMP=bonus movement points generated by ECM (for fire confusion only), TEM=amount this unit's ECCM will reduce enemy's engine modulation.

The fourth line also has an abbreviation: HTK=hits to kill, or the amount of damage needed to destroy the ship.  In addition, this line gives a quick listing of the ship's passive and active defenses, and weaponry. 

The last line in this design gives the ship's magazine load-out, in this case 800 standard missiles, half with regular warheads, and half with anti-matter warheads (SM-a).
 
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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #621 on: November 12, 2022, 01:11:35 PM »
I think there was some miscommunication between the Senator and Emperor there.

Emperor: “So you mean for me to be a figurehead still.”

Senator: “No, we simply plan to sharply limit your power.”

Emperor: “One: Power. Ha! That was a good one. Second: what exactly do you think being a figurehead means?”
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #622 on: November 13, 2022, 05:35:04 AM »
She probably means officially limit the power of the Emperor. I guess at the current time, the Emperor theoretically has a lot of power but is constrained by the Court and later of course the Admirals. Still, overall it's not a bad deal. The other option might have you dead and who knows what the Alliance might do if they invade.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #623 on: November 13, 2022, 08:40:45 AM »
Ah, Emperor Vir... B5 vibes intensify   ;D
Ralph Hoenig, Germany
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #624 on: November 13, 2022, 03:42:34 PM »
Ah, Emperor Vir... B5 vibes intensify   ;D

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #625 on: November 23, 2022, 12:09:07 PM »
So... That's an interesting result of a battle.
I was thinking, does the Alliance has any noticable ship reserves?

And if they were loosing severily, would they ask someone (maybe Colonial union...) for help?
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #626 on: November 23, 2022, 01:03:23 PM »
So... That's an interesting result of a battle.
I was thinking, does the Alliance has any noticable ship reserves?

And if they were loosing severily, would they ask someone (maybe Colonial union...) for help?

The Alliance was caught off-guard by a larger than expected Lothari fleet.  They thought they had them beat.  The Lothari tech advantage, particularly the anti-fighter missiles, really helped them a lot, and about two thirds of the Alliance fleet were older designs that hadn't been refitted.  That hurt, a lot. 

The Alliance is vast, compared to the Kingdom of Lothar, so this defeat shouldn't be fatal.  Or even a big deal in the larger scheme of things.  While the Alliance doesn't have much of a mothball reserve, their total navy is much larger than that of the Lothari, its merely a question of how much they feel they can strip from other areas of the Alliance without exposing themselves too much.  Indeed, heavy reinforcements are almost at the front lines, and thus will be able to make up the losses fairly quickly. 

On the other hand, the Lothari have a large mothball reserve, which they have been steadily reactivating.  This is where a good portion of the ships that surprised the Alliance fleet came from.  Still, their resources are limited compared to the Alliance, which has an income many times that of the Lothari. 

If they need help, the Alliance will first turn to their associate members.  They have three associate members that are relatively powerful, the Torqual, the Doraz, and the Zir.  Unfortunately, none of them have fielded fighters yet.  Also, the Doraz are focused on the Aurarii, and suffered heavy casualties during the war.  The Torqual remain relatively powerful, and have a moderately large fleet, but are also focused on the Aurarii and would need time to re-deploy against the Lothari.  And the Zir are, well, the Zir.  They are pacifists that believe in a strong defense and have declined to send ships to aid the Alliance at this time.  The Alliance has allowed this to happen without comment because Zir territory is under threat from the Mintek and having the Zir fleet at home helps the entire Alliance.  The Alliance's various other associate members are too small and too low-tech to really contribute anything significant. 

After the associate members, the Alliance could in theory turn to the Colonial Union or the Confederated Sentient Races.  However, it is unlikely to do so except in the most extreme circumstances.  After all, they just fought a border war with the Colonial Union that was entirely their fault, so the CU would be unlikely to help.  And the Confeds have been deeply distrustful of the Alliance from the start, which is understandable given the manner of their first encounters.  The two members of the CSR, the humans and the Bjering, met the Alliance after two of its founding races launched an unprovoked invasion of human space, with the Rehorish actually violating a defense treaty it had with the human states to do so.  The Confeds have a trade relationship with the Alliance but are unlikely in the extreme to form a closer relationship. 

 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #627 on: November 23, 2022, 04:36:40 PM »
It looks like I wasn't understanding Alliance politics fully.
I genuinely thought, that Torqual, Doraz and Zir already became Alliance internal members.
That changes a lot.
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #628 on: November 23, 2022, 04:50:37 PM »
I can see the response from any human governemnt to an alliance request for help
"So you want us to send a fleet into your territory , were it will be vulnerable to being cut of and destroyed and you pinkie swear you won't backstab us like last time we trusted you?"
Followed by rolling around on the floor laughing
 

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Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Reply #629 on: November 24, 2022, 04:18:44 AM »
I'm just worried the Mintek will start something soon, the Alliance will need a bit to recover from all this recent drama and the Mintek I think are recovering from their economic troubles. The last thing the galaxy needs is the Mintek stomping the Alliance easily.