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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2021, 08:18:39 AM »
I was surprised that the Medal of Honor gave so little promotion score by default. I give it 3000 score, to make it the most valuable medal outside the 'Former Admin Commander' stuff. I give it to officers who perform important 'firsts' like establishing the first colony on Mars or performing the first jump to another system. It guarantees they'll be Admirals and around for a long time.
 

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2021, 12:24:51 PM »
I was surprised that the Medal of Honor gave so little promotion score by default. I give it 3000 score, to make it the most valuable medal outside the 'Former Admin Commander' stuff. I give it to officers who perform important 'firsts' like establishing the first colony on Mars or performing the first jump to another system. It guarantees they'll be Admirals and around for a long time.

You can Always add points to the default settings.

I may have to change that as it was introduced later.

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2021, 01:05:22 PM »
What is considered 'Military Shipping' and why does it give less promotion points by default than destroying commercial shipping?

I get that Ace has to give out a small amount of points cuz it stacks and can be abused by swatting fighters. But shouldn't killing 10,000 tons of military ship reward more than killing 10 hostile missiles?
 

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2021, 01:11:11 PM »
What is considered 'Military Shipping' and why does it give less promotion points by default than destroying commercial shipping?

I get that Ace has to give out a small amount of points cuz it stacks and can be abused by swatting fighters. But shouldn't killing 10,000 tons of military ship reward more than killing 10 hostile missiles?

"Military shipping" is simply any tonnage that has military instead of commercial designation. The factor of 10 difference corresponds to the same difference in tonnage of military vs commercial shipyards.

Having used this medal pack a few times, I will point out that the point values in the CSV are not intended for gameplay, they are set to put the medals in a readable order when you first load the CSV in-game. You are intended to set your own point scores based on how much you value each medal condition - as a baseline, I believe that a commander accumulates 100 promotion score per year just by existing, so 100 PP ~ some action equivalent to the worth of one year's quiet, nondescript service. However I'm not 100% certain on this and it may only be 25 points, so if someone can correct me, my overworked and underpaid junior LCDRs will be be grateful.
 
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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2021, 08:18:26 PM »
What is considered 'Military Shipping' and why does it give less promotion points by default than destroying commercial shipping?

I get that Ace has to give out a small amount of points cuz it stacks and can be abused by swatting fighters. But shouldn't killing 10,000 tons of military ship reward more than killing 10 hostile missiles?
Having used this medal pack a few times, I will point out that the point values in the CSV are not intended for gameplay, they are set to put the medals in a readable order when you first load the CSV in-game. You are intended to set your own point scores based on how much you value each medal condition.

Correct, in addition to this, it is worth noting that some of the values (most of them actually) are the standard Steve did set when creating the the 60 medals conditions.

I may add this note to the main post.

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2021, 11:45:08 PM »
... - as a baseline, I believe that a commander accumulates 100 promotion score per year just by existing, so 100 PP ~ some action equivalent to the worth of one year's quiet, nondescript service. However I'm not 100% certain on this and it may only be 25 points, so if someone can correct me, my overworked and underpaid junior LCDRs will be be grateful.
I would like to know the mechanic behind this as well. How do people get promotion points and how many? Does someone know?
 

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2021, 10:20:45 AM »
... - as a baseline, I believe that a commander accumulates 100 promotion score per year just by existing, so 100 PP ~ some action equivalent to the worth of one year's quiet, nondescript service. However I'm not 100% certain on this and it may only be 25 points, so if someone can correct me, my overworked and underpaid junior LCDRs will be be grateful.
I would like to know the mechanic behind this as well. How do people get promotion points and how many? Does someone know?

The VB6 wiki page has technical details, and thus far I have not seen anything in terms of C# mechanics to replace this, aside from the fact that the Initiative rating is no longer in the game. I might load up a new game and test this sometime to see if I can determine any changes.
 

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2021, 11:41:02 AM »
Quote from: Snoman314 link=topic=11424. msg150606#msg150606 date=1619311036
Because I couldn't find one, I'm posting my modified csv that has more balanced point values.   Or at least I think they are.   I have added the governor and service medals from these two posts:

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http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=11424.msg142330#msg142330
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http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=11424.msg143944#msg143944
I don't know what happens when you load a CSV pointing to ribbon images that don't exist, so I recommend adding those to your medals folder in addition to the main one on the first post, before importing the attached CSV.

Most people who used this CSV probably figured this out on their own, but just incase, for those who want to use this CSV without errors you will have to remove the commas before "outside of combat" and "or for an extended period":
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Exceptional Service Medal,Having shown exceptional performance of the highest degree in service of humanity, outside of combat,ESV,250,N,service_exceptional.png
Remarkable Service Medal,Having shown remarkable performance in service of humanity, outside of combat,RSV,150,N,service_remarkable.png
Distinguished Service Medal,Having shown distinguished performance in service of humanity, outside of combat,DSV,50,N,service_distinguished.png
Homeworld Governor class I,Having ruled over the Homeworld with distinction, or for an extended period.,HGV,50,N,Homeworld_Governor.png
 

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2021, 03:14:01 PM »
Quote from: Snoman314 link=topic=11424. msg150606#msg150606 date=1619311036
Because I couldn't find one, I'm posting my modified csv that has more balanced point values.   Or at least I think they are.   I have added the governor and service medals from these two posts:

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http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=11424.msg142330#msg142330
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http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=11424.msg143944#msg143944
I don't know what happens when you load a CSV pointing to ribbon images that don't exist, so I recommend adding those to your medals folder in addition to the main one on the first post, before importing the attached CSV.

Most people who used this CSV probably figured this out on their own, but just incase, for those who want to use this CSV without errors you will have to remove the commas before "outside of combat" and "or for an extended period":
Code: [Select]
Exceptional Service Medal,Having shown exceptional performance of the highest degree in service of humanity, outside of combat,ESV,250,N,service_exceptional.png
Remarkable Service Medal,Having shown remarkable performance in service of humanity, outside of combat,RSV,150,N,service_remarkable.png
Distinguished Service Medal,Having shown distinguished performance in service of humanity, outside of combat,DSV,50,N,service_distinguished.png
Homeworld Governor class I,Having ruled over the Homeworld with distinction, or for an extended period.,HGV,50,N,Homeworld_Governor.png

Just to be EXTREMELY clear, my CSV works fine. Unfortunately, another was uploaded on this board (rather than create a new post) which doesn't work. I have highlighted it to Erik but so far couldn't get it removed/moved.

Eventually, the original CSV is in the first post and if you wish to change something (like this user has done) please feel free.

Thanks

EDIT: Post with not working CSV was removed by Moderator, Thanks Erik
« Last Edit: August 11, 2021, 04:09:06 PM by froggiest1982 »
 

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Re: Ribbon Set: All 60 Medal Conditions and More - CSV Included
« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2021, 03:15:36 PM »


Just to be EXTREMELY clear, my CSV works fine. Unfortunately, another was uploaded on my board (rather than create a new post) which doesn't work. I have highlighted it to Erik but so far couldn't get it removed/moved.

Eventually, the original CSV is in the first post and if you wish to change something (like this user has done) please feel free.

Thanks

What now? Where?
 
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