v2.0.0 Changes Discussion Thread

[Droll]

I'm lifting this question from the twelve colonies thread as I think it fits this thread quite well:

Question:
What would happen if a player would try to capture the raider ship by boarding, but before that happen raider ship would transit to their home system. Then the marines take the ship. Can they get back or are they stranded in the raider system?

What interactions could result from this inadvertent intrusion into what should be an inaccessible system?

[Gabrote42]

I'm lifting this question from the twelve colonies thread as I think it fits this thread quite well:

Question:
What would happen if a player would try to capture the raider ship by boarding, but before that happen raider ship would transit to their home system. Then the marines take the ship. Can they get back or are they stranded in the raider system?

What interactions could result from this inadvertent intrusion into what should be an inaccessible system?

You probably wouldn't be able to do much without SM there (even with construction equipment, if it even has planets), but unless the system is coded to be impossible to open in system view or instakill any intruders you could have the ship act as a low-thermal spy if you lower engine output and burn away, to give you force asessments before maint failure kills it. Aside from that, not much I can think of.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

I'm lifting this question from the twelve colonies thread as I think it fits this thread quite well:

Question:
What would happen if a player would try to capture the raider ship by boarding, but before that happen raider ship would transit to their home system. Then the marines take the ship. Can they get back or are they stranded in the raider system?

What interactions could result from this inadvertent intrusion into what should be an inaccessible system?

The Raider home system is just like any other system, except it doesn't have any jump points and you can't link to it via a dormant jump point. If you captured a ship after it returned, you would be in the Raider system and see all the Raider ships currently in that system, but you wouldn't be able to leave. You could attack and cause some havoc, or just monitor traffic in and out if you manage to stay undetected.

[Black]

I'm lifting this question from the twelve colonies thread as I think it fits this thread quite well:

Question:
What would happen if a player would try to capture the raider ship by boarding, but before that happen raider ship would transit to their home system. Then the marines take the ship. Can they get back or are they stranded in the raider system?

What interactions could result from this inadvertent intrusion into what should be an inaccessible system?

The Raider home system is just like any other system, except it doesn't have any jump points and you can't link to it via a dormant jump point. If you captured a ship after it returned, you would be in the Raider system and see all the Raider ships currently in that system, but you wouldn't be able to leave. You could attack and cause some havoc, or just monitor traffic in and out if you manage to stay undetected.

I know that this is not something we should do, but it got me curious. Does it mean you could add jump points to the system with SM mode and link it that way? And then conduct invasion? Would that prevent spawning of new Raiders?

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

I'm lifting this question from the twelve colonies thread as I think it fits this thread quite well:

Question:
What would happen if a player would try to capture the raider ship by boarding, but before that happen raider ship would transit to their home system. Then the marines take the ship. Can they get back or are they stranded in the raider system?

What interactions could result from this inadvertent intrusion into what should be an inaccessible system?

The Raider home system is just like any other system, except it doesn't have any jump points and you can't link to it via a dormant jump point. If you captured a ship after it returned, you would be in the Raider system and see all the Raider ships currently in that system, but you wouldn't be able to leave. You could attack and cause some havoc, or just monitor traffic in and out if you manage to stay undetected.

I know that this is not something we should do, but it got me curious. Does it mean you could add jump points to the system with SM mode and link it that way? And then conduct invasion? Would that prevent spawning of new Raiders?

Theoretically you could invade by creating an SM Link. It wouldn't stop raider production as that is done 'off-map' rather than via shipyards, so I don't have to add exploration, mining, etc. The raiders are simplified in that regard because there isn't expected to be combat in their home system.

[Kiero]

Maybe that's a cool idea.
Make a mechanic of finding a raider system, wipe them out, and have a few calm years? Then they respawn...

[Garfunkel]

Whoa, that's a lot of nice changes!

[Blogaugis]

Well, at least ground-based terraforming installations finally getting their side of usefulness...
Water on various worlds also seems nice.
So, good terraforming tweaks.

[nuclearslurpee]

Can the new hostility modifier be a negative number if we want to roleplay as peaceniks?

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Can the new hostility modifier be a negative number if we want to roleplay as peaceniks?

Yes.

[kilo]

Is it possible that racial attributes change over time as a consequence of in game actions? Times of peace and prosperity could make a society more diplomatic and mercantile, while harsher times lead to empires being more militaristic.

[Kristover]

Understand black holes to be without planets but is there a possibility for asteroids or comets?

[nuclearslurpee]

Is it possible that racial attributes change over time as a consequence of in game actions? Times of peace and prosperity could make a society more diplomatic and mercantile, while harsher times lead to empires being more militaristic.

You can do this yourself by modifying the attributes of your race(s) in response to game events if you want to. I'd rather not see a game mechanic that assumes roleplay here - who's to say that "harsher times" don't make an empire less miltaristic as people don't want to compound their problems with the horrid specter of war, for example?

[Vandermeer]

Understand black holes to be without planets but is there a possibility for asteroids or comets?

Or as an addition to the question: Can the possible accompanying stars still have planets, asteroids and the like?

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Understand black holes to be without planets but is there a possibility for asteroids or comets?

Or as an addition to the question: Can the possible accompanying stars still have planets, asteroids and the like?

Yes, they can. I am considered allowing asteroids around the black hole as well, but haven't decided yet.