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Starfire Rules / Re: Quick Start Rules scenario COUNTERS
« Last post by Kurt on May 29, 2023, 12:14:01 PM »Beautiful ships!
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Starfire Rules / Quick Start Rules scenario COUNTERS
« Last post by Kiero on May 28, 2023, 03:44:22 PM »Here are some counters that I've made for Starfire Quick Start Rules that you can download and play.
I have also added a PDF file for convenience.
I have also added a PDF file for convenience.
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Starfire Rules / Re: "Starfire" Small Fleet Action AAR (complete)
« Last post by Kiero on May 27, 2023, 01:43:16 PM »So, I played out the scenario once again. This time with a human opponent.
I took under command the side that lost in the previous game, that is, the reds.
The game took us 8 turns.
From my observations: the green's corvettes made the same mistake as the reds once did, leaving the cruiser alone. An accurate salvo on one damaged its engines so much that its speed prevented it from joining the fight. The other was cornered and destroyed by my two, only one of which lost its shields and armor.
The cruisers were exchanging blows until the corvettes arrived, which, thanks to their speed and maneuverability, were able to fire at the green cruiser from point-blank range, quickly annihilating it. The green was left with one corvette crawling toward the fight.
An offer of surrender was sent to it, which was accepted.
Here is a final turn:
I took under command the side that lost in the previous game, that is, the reds.
The game took us 8 turns.
From my observations: the green's corvettes made the same mistake as the reds once did, leaving the cruiser alone. An accurate salvo on one damaged its engines so much that its speed prevented it from joining the fight. The other was cornered and destroyed by my two, only one of which lost its shields and armor.
The cruisers were exchanging blows until the corvettes arrived, which, thanks to their speed and maneuverability, were able to fire at the green cruiser from point-blank range, quickly annihilating it. The green was left with one corvette crawling toward the fight.
An offer of surrender was sent to it, which was accepted.
Here is a final turn:
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Starfire Rules / "Starfire" Small Fleet Action AAR (complete)
« Last post by Kiero on May 25, 2023, 09:10:42 AM »ftp://So here is a setup for scenario "Small Fleet Action"
Red team:
CA
[3] S×7 A×8 Q (I I) R Q (I I) R R Q (I I) R R Q R R Y (I I) R [4]
Destruction
CT
[2] S S A A (I) (I) Q L (I) L [6]
Ruin
Despair
Green Team:
CA
[3] S×8 A×9 Q (I I) Pt Q (I I) Pt Q (I I) Pt Q Pt Y (I I) Pt [4]
Eisenhower
CT
[2] S A A (I) (I) Q F (I) L [6]
Lee
Patton
Setup:
First round:
The red team gets the initiative.
After the move, Heavy cruiser "Destruction" scored a first long-range hit on a green team Corvette "Lee" (4 out of 8 shoots on a 4 to Hit, tons of luck) taking one of its engine room.
Green Team Eisenhower was also shooting but with no luck.
Round two:
This one was unlucky for the Red team. CT "Ruin" was reduced to:
[2] XXXX(X)(X)XX(X)L [0/6]
Round three:
Red team "Despair" was trying to kill green CT "Patton" at point-blank range, and it did not go as planned. "Eisenhower" took the red CT with one shoot.
Another red CT was killed by a green CT "Patton".
CA "Destruction" decide to stay back and use its range.
Round for:
CA "Destruction" is desperately trying to catch up with "Eisenhower". On its way, it took green "Patton" CT.
Hits from green CA took almost all of its shields, and laser from CT "Lee" took some of its armor.
Round five:
CA "Destruction" almost got into an "Esenhover" blind spot. In the CA fire exchange red heavy cruiser took 6 damage from torpedos and inflict only 2 on the green CA.
After a shot from "Lee", "Destruction" started streaming atmosphere.
Round six:
A real good shoot from the "Destruction" inflict 7 damage from 8 possible to the "Eisenhower", unfortunately, it did not get through the armor.
One shoot from corvette "Lee" took out crew quarters, on the "Destruction".
Return salvo from the green team heavy cruiser destroyed red CA two engine rooms one missile launcher and also a crew quarters.
After this blow, the captain of the heavy cruiser "Destruction" sent a signal to the "Eisenhower" that he wanted to surrender.
So yes, corvettes should not move too far away from the cruiser, it seems that this was the main reason for the defeat of the red team.
For playing I use Roll20, if anyone would like to try it, I can arrange for some skirmish....
Red team:
CA
[3] S×7 A×8 Q (I I) R Q (I I) R R Q (I I) R R Q R R Y (I I) R [4]
Destruction
CT
[2] S S A A (I) (I) Q L (I) L [6]
Ruin
Despair
Green Team:
CA
[3] S×8 A×9 Q (I I) Pt Q (I I) Pt Q (I I) Pt Q Pt Y (I I) Pt [4]
Eisenhower
CT
[2] S A A (I) (I) Q F (I) L [6]
Lee
Patton
Setup:
First round:
The red team gets the initiative.
After the move, Heavy cruiser "Destruction" scored a first long-range hit on a green team Corvette "Lee" (4 out of 8 shoots on a 4 to Hit, tons of luck) taking one of its engine room.
Green Team Eisenhower was also shooting but with no luck.
Round two:
This one was unlucky for the Red team. CT "Ruin" was reduced to:
[2] XXXX(X)(X)XX(X)L [0/6]
Round three:
Red team "Despair" was trying to kill green CT "Patton" at point-blank range, and it did not go as planned. "Eisenhower" took the red CT with one shoot.
Another red CT was killed by a green CT "Patton".
CA "Destruction" decide to stay back and use its range.
Round for:
CA "Destruction" is desperately trying to catch up with "Eisenhower". On its way, it took green "Patton" CT.
Hits from green CA took almost all of its shields, and laser from CT "Lee" took some of its armor.
Round five:
CA "Destruction" almost got into an "Esenhover" blind spot. In the CA fire exchange red heavy cruiser took 6 damage from torpedos and inflict only 2 on the green CA.
After a shot from "Lee", "Destruction" started streaming atmosphere.
Round six:
A real good shoot from the "Destruction" inflict 7 damage from 8 possible to the "Eisenhower", unfortunately, it did not get through the armor.
One shoot from corvette "Lee" took out crew quarters, on the "Destruction".
Return salvo from the green team heavy cruiser destroyed red CA two engine rooms one missile launcher and also a crew quarters.
After this blow, the captain of the heavy cruiser "Destruction" sent a signal to the "Eisenhower" that he wanted to surrender.
So yes, corvettes should not move too far away from the cruiser, it seems that this was the main reason for the defeat of the red team.
For playing I use Roll20, if anyone would like to try it, I can arrange for some skirmish....
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Starfire Rules / Re: Starfire 3'rd vs. Solar Starfire
« Last post by Kurt on May 24, 2023, 06:40:29 PM »Well, when the first Corvette blew up, I was full of hope.
Initially, CT where very unlucky with scoring hits. But when they caught up with the FT, it was a massacre...
And when one of them managed to get in the destroyer's blind spot and take out some of its engines, it was over.
I wonder if it is at all possible to win this scenario as a destroyer?
Good question. The destroyer is out-massed by the corvettes, which means it's in trouble from the first. The only saving grace, from the destroyer's point of view, is that the corvettes will be distracted by firing at the freighters, allowing it to engage the corvettes. However, given that the corvettes' primary mission is to take out the freighters, not the destroyer, they can do what I suspected happened here, distract the destroyer with one of the corvettes and send the other two after the freighters. If the freighters are bunched up, the destroyer might have a chance to defend them, otherwise it's going to be a free-for-all for the other two corvettes. This might be an interesting scenario for a newbie vs an experienced player, with the experienced player taking the destroyer.
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Starfire Rules / Re: Carriers
« Last post by Kiero on May 23, 2023, 01:42:30 PM »Ok, you guys talk me in to it...
I'll come up with some rules for early fighters and carriers...
Pocket carriers for the win
I'll come up with some rules for early fighters and carriers...
Pocket carriers for the win
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Starfire Rules / Re: Carriers
« Last post by Steve Walmsley on May 23, 2023, 12:30:57 PM »What is a purpose of an HTL1 carrier, since fighters can be developed at HTL8?At a guess I'd say it's a fluke in the rules. They have no real use until fighters are developed and are way more expensive than comparable warships.
Kurt
Kamikaze shuttles!
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Starfire Rules / Re: Starfire 3'rd vs. Solar Starfire
« Last post by Kiero on May 23, 2023, 12:11:42 PM »Well, when the first Corvette blew up, I was full of hope.
Initially, CT where very unlucky with scoring hits. But when they caught up with the FT, it was a massacre...
And when one of them managed to get in the destroyer's blind spot and take out some of its engines, it was over.
I wonder if it is at all possible to win this scenario as a destroyer?
Initially, CT where very unlucky with scoring hits. But when they caught up with the FT, it was a massacre...
And when one of them managed to get in the destroyer's blind spot and take out some of its engines, it was over.
I wonder if it is at all possible to win this scenario as a destroyer?
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Starfire Rules / Re: Carriers
« Last post by Kurt on May 23, 2023, 11:47:19 AM »What is a purpose of an HTL1 carrier, since fighters can be developed at HTL8?At a guess I'd say it's a fluke in the rules. They have no real use until fighters are developed and are way more expensive than comparable warships.
Kurt
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Starfire Rules / Re: Starfire 3'rd vs. Solar Starfire
« Last post by Kurt on May 23, 2023, 11:41:20 AM »I guess this would be a strategic loss for the destroyer, as it lost its transports. However, it was out-massed by the corvettes, so well-done for surviving, I guess.
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