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Starfire => SA Bugs => Topic started by: coldsteel on November 17, 2006, 10:56:59 AM

Title: Assembly and fast assembly rates
Post by: coldsteel on November 17, 2006, 10:56:59 AM
Steve, just noticed that SA reports assembly and fast assembly rates for MSx as half of what they should be, but assigning the full rate to a project. This has the effect of only allowing half as many projects as MS in the complex. It assigns the correct capacities to SY and SYM.
Title: Re: Assembly and fast assembly rates
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 17, 2006, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: "coldsteel"
Steve, just noticed that SA reports assembly and fast assembly rates for MSx as half of what they should be, but assigning the full rate to a project. This has the effect of only allowing half as many projects as MS in the complex. It assigns the correct capacities to SY and SYM.

SA has a constant showing the assembly rate as half for Machine shops. I checked the Unified Rules and it appears that MS are identical to SY except they cannot construct ships. I am not sure why the half rate is in there but it must be from an earlier rule that was superseded. Corrected for the next version.

Steve
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Post by: coldsteel on November 17, 2006, 10:39:01 PM
I think that's from ISF or SM2, I'll check later.
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Post by: coldsteel on November 18, 2006, 12:21:35 PM
Well, I now have no idea where you got 1/2 rate.
ISF states 10 HS/month flat for assembly, no option for fast assembly. 3rdR and SM#2 both state base rate for assembly and 2x base for fast assembly. MAYBE 1/2 rate was in the original 3rd edition, but that came out before ISF...
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Post by: RoguePhoenix on November 18, 2006, 11:45:02 PM
Found it. In SM2 Rev #1 rule 15.09.03.3 under special cases One strategic turn operations 15.09.03.2.3b (page 96) Machine shops used for prefab assembly works at 1/2 rate of shipyard modules as this is largely a construction process. (or a 1x build rate at 50% cost (fast assembly)).

Of course I don't know if this was changed in the UR or not that will be up to you to look up  :P
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Post by: coldsteel on November 19, 2006, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: "RoguePhoenix"
Found it. In SM2 Rev #1 rule 15.09.03.3 under special cases One strategic turn operations 15.09.03.2.3b (page 96) Machine shops used for prefab assembly works at 1/2 rate of shipyard modules as this is largely a construction process. (or a 1x build rate at 50% cost (fast assembly)).

Of course I don't know if this was changed in the UR or not that will be up to you to look up  :P


Actually, it changed in 3rdR. rule 09.07.02, page 54. 'Assembly of prefabricated components occurs at the basic
build rate but can be accelerated to 2 times that rate for an
additional cost of 50% of the assembled unit.' Remember, order of precedence is UTM, 3rdR, SM2, then ISF.
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Post by: RoguePhoenix on November 19, 2006, 03:01:54 PM
:P Yah I know but at least you know Steve didn't pull it outta thin air heheh
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Post by: coldsteel on November 20, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
Or his fourth point of contact... lol