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Fighters
« on: June 28, 2022, 10:59:27 AM »
Is there an easy way of using them, as now its like hundreds of small ships.

This is how I do...

1. Building

2. Making a group of x or xx fighters

3. Assign mothership and land them, the group is now single ships, again...

4. Detach one, transfer all other fighters to this group, one at a time and give order to land on assign mothership as sub-fleet...

5. Detach group and usually the first fighter loses its assigned mothership...
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Re: Fighters
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2022, 11:07:10 AM »
  • Land fighters on mothership (and assign).
  • Select the fleet. In the Ship List tab, select all of the fighters you wish to assign to a squadron/wing - you can use Ctrl+Click and Shift+Click here.
  • With the fighters selected, press "Create Sub Fleet".
  • You can now use the sub-fleet like a squadron including landing on the assigned mothership as a sub-fleet.
No need to detach all the fighters from the fleet to do any of this. It is annoying that we cannot have a squadron land+assign+as sub-fleet, but otherwise we have the tools we need. Hopefully the squadron feature in 2.0 will help also.
 
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Re: Fighters
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2022, 12:31:15 PM »
Is there an easy way of using them, as now its like hundreds of small ships.

This is how I do...

1. Building

2. Making a group of x or xx fighters

3. Assign mothership and land them, the group is now single ships, again...

4. Detach one, transfer all other fighters to this group, one at a time and give order to land on assign mothership as sub-fleet...

5. Detach group and usually the first fighter loses its assigned mothership...

In addition to what Nuclear said, i would suggest making a "test" campaign, and using Space Master build yourself a carrier and some fighters and just play around with the controls. If you mess something up it will not break your current campaign.
 

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Re: Fighters
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2022, 04:10:39 PM »
Fighter organization/doctrines:

My heavy Carrier have 36 torpedobombers and 12 fighters, my intention was to make 3 12 Swordfish groups each being escorted by 1 group of 4 Spitfire, as 1st torpedogroup and a sub group of fighters. 

I presume there is no difference of pointblank defensive fire if its in a subgroup or being put into the same group as TBs? That is, my fighters will try and hit incoming missiles regardless of who is targeted?

Speed does count and the slightly faster fighters will lose a little in a fight?

I would love a dogfight order, possible with under orders as, go for bombers, or go for screening fighters... And CSP.. And...  That list can go on forever...

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12x Spitfire - MkII  Fighter   Speed: 45037 km/s    Size: 6.22


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Re: Fighters
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2022, 04:41:00 PM »
A dogfight order would make no sense, a 500 ton space ship flys in the same way as a 50,000 ton space ship these are not F-18's compared to the USS Nimitz
 

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Re: Fighters
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2022, 04:58:21 PM »
A dogfight order just sounds like the follow command. Though I guess having it be an automated "seek and destroy" order for enemies within a region could be nice to reduce micro burden against enemy fighters / FACs / large fleets in general.
 

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Re: Fighters
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2022, 01:37:05 AM »
If you set your beam fighters BFCs to final fire PD mode, then they will shoot at any missiles trying to hit friendly craft in their location. Alternatively, you can put them in area fire PD mode and then they will shoot at any enemy missiles at range so they don't have to be exactly together with the bombers but note that accuracy will suffer and their guns might be regaining power at a critical moment.

 

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Re: Fighters
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2022, 02:24:00 AM »
A dogfight order would make no sense, a 500 ton space ship flys in the same way as a 50,000 ton space ship these are not F-18's compared to the USS Nimitz
Ah no, more as order to attack other fighters and small crafts.
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