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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #120 on: June 16, 2020, 04:59:58 AM »
Well, I've completed version 2 of my additional commander namelist archive.    I've added over a dozen more nationalities/ethnicities with thousands of new names.    I would've added more, but there is a limitation I've found with Aurora itself that prevent me from doing so.    Namely, it does not differentiate between male and female-specific surnames, 'cause you can only add one surname file.    This is important for countries like Lithuania and Iceland, where men and women have starkly different naming conventions from each other.    Even so, there's a lot to unpack here, and I'm quite pleased with my progress.    I hope this makes your human-centric games feel far more diverse and immersive! Also, as stated before, this is not my original work.    I simply lifted them from the old XCOM Enemy Unknown mod Enhanced Namelists.    The mod creator deserves the real credit!
Here's a full count of countries and/or ethnicities I've included so far: Albanian, Armenian, Belgian, Bengali, Bosnian, Burmese, Congolese, Danish, Estonian, Ethiopian, Filipino, Hungarian, Indonesian, Irish, Israeli, Khmer, Kurdish, Latvian, Malay, Maori, Nigerian, Norwegian, Pashtun, Serbo-Croatian, Sinhalese, Swahili and Vietnamese.     

I've just tried to import the first theme (Albanian) and the special characters (non-English letters) all turn to question marks. I still haven't figured out why files from some players are fine and others have problems with special characters. I assume it is something to do with file formatting but can't pin it down.

Does anyone else have any ideas? :)

EDIT: Found it - the text file has to be saved in UTF-8 encoding. Please can everyone submitting files use that format. For example, if you save in notepad, use the encoding dropdown next to the Save button

EDIT 2: Added so far: Albanian, Armenian, Belgian, Bengali, Bosnian, Burmese, Congolese, Danish, Estonian, Ethiopian, Vietnamese
« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 05:38:35 AM by Steve Walmsley »
 

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #121 on: June 16, 2020, 05:29:19 AM »
Quote from: Steve Walmsley link=topic=10472. msg137228#msg137228 date=1592301598
Quote from: Son_of_Orion link=topic=10472. msg127780#msg127780 date=1587779828
Well, I've completed version 2 of my additional commander namelist archive.     I've added over a dozen more nationalities/ethnicities with thousands of new names.     I would've added more, but there is a limitation I've found with Aurora itself that prevent me from doing so.     Namely, it does not differentiate between male and female-specific surnames, 'cause you can only add one surname file.     This is important for countries like Lithuania and Iceland, where men and women have starkly different naming conventions from each other.     Even so, there's a lot to unpack here, and I'm quite pleased with my progress.     I hope this makes your human-centric games feel far more diverse and immersive! Also, as stated before, this is not my original work.     I simply lifted them from the old XCOM Enemy Unknown mod Enhanced Namelists.     The mod creator deserves the real credit!
Here's a full count of countries and/or ethnicities I've included so far: Albanian, Armenian, Belgian, Bengali, Bosnian, Burmese, Congolese, Danish, Estonian, Ethiopian, Filipino, Hungarian, Indonesian, Irish, Israeli, Khmer, Kurdish, Latvian, Malay, Maori, Nigerian, Norwegian, Pashtun, Serbo-Croatian, Sinhalese, Swahili and Vietnamese.     

I've just tried to import the first theme (Albanian) and the special characters (non-English letters) all turn to question marks.  I still haven't figured out why files from some players are fine and others have problems with special characters.  I assume it is something to do with file formatting but can't pin it down.

Does anyone else have any ideas? :)

EDIT: Found it - the text file has to be saved in UTF-8 encoding.  Please can everyone submitting files use that format.  For example, if you save in notepad, use the encoding dropdown next to the Save button


Yes, you must convert it to UTF-8 as I did with the Hungarian set (please see my attachment) but still you need a native speaker to proofread it because the result will not be perfect with the special characters (?, ?, etc. ).  I have done the following steps:

- Fixed dozens of spelling errors
- Removed the tons of duplicates
- Removed some strange/rare/nonexistent names and added more commonly used ones
- Fixed the missing/wrong accents
- Converted the files from ANSI to UTF-8 so every special character is appearing correctly in the game
 

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #122 on: August 17, 2020, 08:22:29 AM »
I have never gotten much milage from nation-specific names, because I tend to run empires having new backstories and histories. Instead, I've gravitated toward a mix of empire-specific names, and a suite of general-purpose names, to be mixed and matched according to desire.

Please see attached:
1. Names for freighters based on a "Thunder Road" structure. All names have a two-syllable word or phase, followed by the word "Road". The "weighting" and "spoken length" of the syllables does vary a bit, so poets and musicians may want to adjust things.
2. A list of clipper ships
3. A list of exotic colors
4. A list of constellations. This is the same as one already existing in the game, but may be clearly named as such and therefore be easy to find.
 
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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #123 on: August 17, 2020, 08:24:32 AM »
... and, please see attached three more files:
5. A list of flowers
6. A list of heroic last stands
7. A list of mythological birds (I find this especially helpful for scouts)
8. A list of birds of prey smaller than Eagles

Many thanks to Wikipedia for its invaluable assistance with these and other name lists.
 
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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #124 on: October 22, 2020, 08:54:22 AM »
Preparing my new game, I found that China really had short lists.
Class Theme - China, 26 entries (list #ID 206)
System Theme - China, 35 entries (list #ID 285)

Here are some additions, bringing both to 50. I used for Class Theme famous Chinese generals and a few battles. For System Theme, it was rivers.

List # 206, new entries
Sun Tzu
Wu Qi
Qin Shi Huang
Xiang Yu
Cao Cao
Han Xin
Qi Jiguang
Wang Jiang
Huo Qubing
Zu Ti
Gao Changgong
Li Jing
Yue Fei
Chang Yuchun
Sun Liren
Xu Shiyou
Hulao
Huoyi
Dongxing
Sun quan
Yangping
Jushi
Gaixia
Diayou


List #285, new entries
Heilong
Songhua
Suifen
Liao
Wei
Huang He
Xiaoqing
Jiangsu
Yangtze
Qingyi
Poyang
Han
Qing
Jialing
Min
 

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #125 on: December 07, 2020, 07:20:07 AM »
Not a general suggestion and partly redundant with existing lists, but maybe useful for some in some contexts as prepared separate lists. A few quick ones I use for Earth start, real stars, exploration-heavy games to rename catalogue stars in a certain arm/region when I'm lazy:

Geographical or political subdivisions of real Earth countries. With slight modifications in some cases (split up double regions, no "Federal District" or "County of x" etc., ...).

Brazilian states (entries: 26)
Chinese provinces (33; with a second file in Chinese for those who can read it or for those who can't, but want unintelligible alien things to be labelled really unintelligibly alien)
French provinces (49)
Indian states (41)
Italian regions (22)
Spanish communities (19)

When extra lazy I use real city names from those subdivisions or variations thereof for colony names in the corresponding systems.

I'm currently playing a united-Earth-based ex-Communist, by now federal-ultra-capitalist three-species empire that is increasingly driven by a growing religion: a mystical belief in the "Ancients", a distant benevolent civilization of superior beings that has been buzzing around the galaxy for much longer than humanity and its warring neighbours. That inspires a mad rush of exploration, even by my generally so-inclined standards. [Setup: Conventional start, but with a distant starting NPR and for the first half-century or so: significantly increased NPR-NPR generation rate. One of these decades, that should lead to finding a well-developed region of space with decades of head-start in research and expansion. Once we get there.] Old guard Communists and Socialists, still strong on Earth, Luna and Utopia, usually doubt that the "Ancients" exist or even dare to ask the heretical question: What if they exist, but are not benevolent at all...? We shall see: 332 known systems and counting fusion-faster soon. And impatient to play Aurora after a hiatus, I'm running out of suitable naming ideas.

edit: minor copy-in-haste fix
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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #126 on: December 21, 2020, 04:15:33 PM »
Quote from: Steve Walmsley link=topic=12088. msg144812#msg144812 date=1608399175
There are no 3D star positions in random games, so no constellations.  It would be easier to generate a name theme using all combinations of Greek letters and constellation names, which would provide over 2000 names.
You asked for it.  Here is a list of 1873 Bayer designations.  Some names include superscript numbers (like Psi9 Aurigae).  I also added a file where the superscript number symbols are replaced with normal numbers.
 

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #127 on: July 16, 2021, 01:55:55 AM »
Could you update Polish names? Currently implemented in game are from medieval times :) (Surnames are ok)

Also, there is a difference in surnames for females.
Exp. The male surname "Wolski", the same surname for female "Wolska".

If it is not possible to implement, male surnames will be fine.
 

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #128 on: July 29, 2021, 03:07:47 AM »
Well, 1,989 german city names.       ;D


Actually it should replace "System Theme - Germany".   


EDIT: I don't think this is the actual Theme for the System Names, isn't it? Which one is it?


EDIIT2: Never mind.
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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #129 on: July 29, 2021, 03:37:12 AM »
And a rewrite for the german Marine (Navy) ranks.



Admiral
Vizeadmiral
Konteradmiral
Flottillenadmiral
Kapitän zur See
Fregattenkapitän
Korvettenkapitän
 

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #130 on: August 09, 2021, 09:51:13 AM »
Modern Russian names
(the same issue in vanilla as with Polish ones, plus many mistakes)

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Re: Naming Theme Suggestions
« Reply #131 on: September 29, 2021, 03:53:15 PM »
Alliance & Union Merchantmen & Transports.
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