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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #135 on: August 31, 2021, 12:07:57 AM »
That Blue is indeed quite fetching~ mayhaps the banner of Imperial Military Court? Representing the supreme nature of Imperial justice and authority.

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In seriousness I must make a note of this idea because it would be an excellent bit of fluff accompanying later developments of a particular plot thread. Yes, remember, this AAR does have some kind of plot as a backdrop for the squabbling, which will eventually be advanced if only out of necessity to get us to the next bout of squabbling.  ;)
 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #136 on: September 01, 2021, 10:48:29 AM »
That Blue is indeed quite fetching~ mayhaps the banner of Imperial Military Court? Representing the supreme nature of Imperial justice and authority.

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In seriousness I must make a note of this idea because it would be an excellent bit of fluff accompanying later developments of a particular plot thread. Yes, remember, this AAR does have some kind of plot as a backdrop for the squabbling, which will eventually be advanced if only out of necessity to get us to the next bout of squabbling.  ;)
""""<.<'""""  Well I suppouse those admirals are paid to do something every once in a while.
 

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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #137 on: September 03, 2021, 05:50:57 AM »
Okay honestly I just drew some stuff XD Come pick the ones you like the most and or tell me what you want to get drawn and i`ll come up with some Vexi~








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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #138 on: September 03, 2021, 11:24:53 AM »
Okay honestly I just drew some stuff XD Come pick the ones you like the most and or tell me what you want to get drawn and i`ll come up with some Vexi~

There are some interesting designs here, however I will need to hold further comment until the next update has been published for reasons that will become clear in due time.
 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #139 on: September 03, 2021, 01:29:58 PM »
Okay honestly I just drew some stuff XD Come pick the ones you like the most and or tell me what you want to get drawn and i`ll come up with some Vexi~

There are some interesting designs here, however I will need to hold further comment until the next update has been published for reasons that will become clear in due time.
Fair enough~ can`t wait.........XD So while im doing that I may have went and made a few more flags

A few more flags

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Spotlight #3: Conference Outing to Hyperion Drive Yards, Duranium Legion Naval Conference

24 May 4009, 1300 hours

As the Lords Admiralty and guests disembarked from their shuttle at Hyperion Drive Yards, they were greeted by the famous Lord Cetus Hyperion himself, who would be guiding the Conference attendees on their tour of his flagship facility. As Lord Hyperion escorted his honored guests through the entry halls of the shipyard, he related for their benefit a brief history of Hyperion Drive Yards.

While the Hyperion noble family had owned and operated an extensive array of wet naval shipyards and propulsion system manufacturing assets for several centuries, the Drive Yards themselves had been founded by Lord Cetus Hyperion in 3978, preceding the Emperor’s order announcing the formation of the Legion Navy by over a decade. Indeed, political and financial pressure from the Hyperion family had played a key role in precipitating this historic edict, albeit the meteoric success of the venture provided plenty of justification for this Imperial favor in any case. The moment of triumph for Hyperion Drive Yards arrived in 3981, with the launching of the first Typhon-class Mars orbiter powered by the H-40 ‘Mercury’ thermal engine. In the years following this, a number of other shipbuilding enterprises established themselves, having the potential to crowd the market and severely limit the Hyperion Drive Yards profit margins. Rather than attempt to establish a monopoly by force, however, Lord Hyperion had the foresight to recognize that such a burgeoning industry would be a powerful political force in the Imperial Conference with himself at the head. Thus, instead the Hyperion family reoriented their naval propulsion assets towards the design and construction of powerful spacecraft engines, cornering the market before their competitors had gotten off the ground* and ensuring that every major Legion space vessel would have a Hyperion hand in its construction no matter which shipyard won the contract. This would be starkly apparent during the Legion Navy buildup prior to the year 4000, as while the Hyperion Drive Yards won the most prestigious contract for construction of the eight original Defiant and Grand Cross light cruisers, over half of their actual business came in the form of contractor appointments at every other major orbital shipyard.

*Heh.

At this point in the tour, the Conference attendees emerged from yet another long, winding hallway onto a spacious concourse with a close-up view of the partially completed Indomitable. Here, Lord Hyperion expressed his profound pleasure that his audience had arrived just in time to observe the installation of one of the eight side-mounted 152 mm weapons batteries into the hull of Indomitable. As the Lords Admiral watched with rapt attention, the massive dockyard cranes slowly maneuvered the 300-ton gun mount into position before pressing it into the ship’s hull. Despite the lack of sound in space, the floor of the concourse shook as the weapons battery connected with the hull mounting ring. This dramatic spectacle being completed, Lord Hyperion resumed his narration, describing in grandiose terms the major components and capabilities of the Invincible class to his listeners while technicians in EVA suits scuttered about the hull, quickly securing the 152 mm railgun battery to the hull. While much of this information was hardly news to the Lords Admiral, most of whom remained far more interested in the view from the concourse windows, the reader of this work may find these details considerably more enlightening.


The Invincible-class Light Cruiser

The Invincible-class light cruiser had its genesis in the back rooms of the Legion Navy procurement offices, even before the first of the Defiant-class light cruisers had come off the ways. At this time, a minor debate had sprung up regarding the wisdom of building 12,500-ton cruisers, considered by many on the Legion Navy to be undersized for a fleet-leading class of warships, with several officers advocating for upscaling the design to 15,000 tons along with increasing the armament by 50% to twelve 152 mm batteries. In practice, while this proposal did circulate through the back rooms at Hyperion Drive Yards as well as the Legion Navy offices, it never left those back rooms for the simple reason that the Drive Yards were not equipped to build such a large ship class, and could not become so equipped in time to meet the year 4000 deadline to deliver the first eight cruisers to the Legion Navy.

The 15,000-ton light cruiser idea was thus only resurrected in the aftermath of the Battle of Gliese 1, which had exposed the severe deficiencies in the Legion Navy battle planning department as well as the minor lack of point defense capabilities in Legion Navy battle fleets of the time. While the eight-battery armament of the Defiant class had proven entirely adequate in this and following battles, including those fought against the Republic of Belaire, the idea of upscaling the light cruiser arm of the Navy to mount a secondary point defense armament attracted considerable interest. By this time, Hyperion Drive Yards had expanded sufficiently to handle the construction of such large vessels, and as such a design proposal quietly passed from the aforementioned back rooms up to the Legion high command, which readily approved the design with only a few weeks of cursory debate for appearances’ sake.

Despite this rather pedestrian design history, and in spite of (perhaps even because of) taking nearly all of its design elements from the existing Defiant and Charybdis classes, the Invincible class is well worth a close look as it exemplifies not only Legion Navy shipbuilding practices in the general sense, but particularly the new directions and design philosophies which would exemplify Legion ship design into the 4010s. As such, a graphical representation of the Invincible herself is provided below for the benefit of the reader, which has in large part been reproduced based on contemporary Hyperion Drive Yards promotional materials.



In addition to the vital statistics reproduced in the graphic, the following information may assist the reader in understanding contemporary Legion Navy shipbuilding practices and philosophy:

Propulsion: The beating heart of the Invincible-class light cruisers were the pair of massive H-750 ‘Minotaur’ cruiser engines manufactured in-house by Hyperion Drive Yards. Displacing 3,000 tons each, internal Hyperion documents from this period indicate that the ‘Minotaur’ engines approached, or perhaps reached, the limits of engine designs derived from previous Hyperion engines used on the Bellerophon, Charybdis, and Defiant classes (and close relatives). While the ion drive technology on which these engines were based was, by modern standards, relatively primitive, the major technological limitations were primarily related to the cooling of the engines by conducting waste heat to external surfaces, such that larger engines would require a completely new design even while using the same basic propulsion technology. While the H-750 engine like its predecessors was optimized to provide massive forward thrust for a daring charge into the teeth of the enemy, impressive maneuverability and evasion was conferred by a combination of ±7° traverse for the exit jets and twenty-four articulating nozzle plates.

Protection: Most of the armored faces of the Invincible-class light cruisers, as with any other Legion Navy vessel of this era, were protected by composite armor tiles providing approximately eight times the protection per unit mass as common steel armor. As Legion Navy armor schemes of this era frequently eschewed simple angles, leading to rather complex arrangements of the armored faces, there was no uniform size for the armored tiles once mounted. For ease of construction and repair, composite armor tiles were usually manufactured as 6.0 × 1.5 m2 slabs of the required thickness which could be cut down to fit in a specific position. However, in many cases specialized tiles were necessary which were attached to larger component assemblies to ensure a proper fitting of external elements.

A few exceptions to the general tiling approach can be observed. The engine housing and turret roof plates were required to be manufactured as large assemblies due to the inclusion of integrated coolant flow systems. In these cases large sheets were used instead of smaller tiles as no benefit was found from the modular nature of the latter. It should also be noted that the various viewports along the frontal section were not unarmored, but were backed by smaller armored plates which were automatically lowered into position prior to the beginning of any combat operations.

Armament: The Arcadia Weapon Systems 152 mm and 102 mm railgun batteries appear on visual inspection to have been twin mounts. However, each individual railgun was in fact a dual-charge weapon, capable of launching two shots per charge, with one pair of opposing rails carrying the charge for the first projectile while the second pair stabilized the particle, and vice versa for the second projectile fired a second later. This means that each battery mount was capable of firing four shots per full capacitor charge, with a severe downside that the high energy output necessary to fire all four shots required a dedicated battery cooling system including coolant tanks and vapor vents attached to the main weapon mount.

It is a common misconception among students of Legion Navy history that the Arcadia weapons batteries on the Invincible and other classes functioned as turrets, similar to those mounted by some alien races fought by the Legion Navy. This is incorrect, as the resemblance was superficial and each battery mount offered only a limited traversal range allowing gunnery crews to maintain a target lock as their vessel made slight course changes to evade enemy fire. The turret-like mounting of the guns was also necessary to permit the superfiring arrangement allowing full fire forward as a battle fleet closed on its quarry.

Accommodations: Legion Navy shipbuilding tradition of this era always located the crew quarters in the forward section of the ship, and the Invincible class was no exception to this rule. From the relative sizes and placements of the armor-backed viewports, it may be surmised that the ship’s officers were quartered in the forward sections, alongside various crew support facilities such as the mess halls, while enlisted crewmen were housed further back in this forward segment. It should be emphasized that contrary to popular belief, the large viewports at the front of the ship were not the position of the main or auxiliary bridges, both of which were located far more securely in the center-rear of the forward segment. Rather it appears that these were large observation decks used for recreational space and occasional formal events such as post-battle medal awarding ceremonies.

Other Components: While available sources on the subject generally indicate that the forward position of the sensors was in part intended to provide an advantageous field of view, the primary rationale for this placement was the relative ease of connecting each sensor system, including the operator stations, to the main and auxiliary bridges nestled deep inside the ship.

Besides the components listed above, the astute observer may note the presence of radiative cooling arrays along several otherwise unadorned armored faces. A number of access ports for transfer of fuel and fluid coolant can also be seen, as well as a trio of docking grips just forward of the propulsion section.

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OOC Notes: And now for something completely different! It has certainly been a long time in coming, and has it goes without saying been something of an endeavor, thus I hope it will not be completely unappreciated. While this is certainly not a “hard sci-fi” style of ship design, I have attempted to maintain some semblance of naval realism in the design decisions made which I hope comes through fairly well, as well as some nods to practical necessities such as cooling systems where feasible to do so.

Up next, the Lords Admiral shall reconvene to discuss El Pip's third-favorite topic, after mining and logistics. I speak of course of the Bellerophon class and its own troubled history - and future, if any. While this promises to be a thrilling and stimulating debate at every intellectual level, the lower ones anyways, for now we shall content ourselves with the rather fluffier proceedings above.
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #141 on: October 06, 2021, 03:43:43 PM »
*Heh.
When only the narrator laughs, that is not a good sign.

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as such a design proposal quietly passed from the aforementioned back rooms up to the Legion high command, which readily approved the design with only a few weeks of cursory debate for appearances’ sake.
The appearance being of a body that prizes arbitrary delays and paperwork over actually getting something done?

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In addition to the vital statistics reproduced in the graphic, the following information may assist the reader in understanding contemporary Legion Navy shipbuilding practices and philosophy:
A most pretty picture. My congratulations to the artist.

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the major technological limitations were primarily related to the cooling of the engines by conducting waste heat to external surfaces, such that larger engines would require a completely new design even while using the same basic propulsion technology.
A discussion on engine cooling, truly the sign of a great writing project.

The remainder of the technical review is also excellent.

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Up next, the Lords Admiral shall reconvene to discuss El Pip's third-favorite topic, after mining and logistics. I speak of course of the Bellerophon class and its own troubled history - and future, if any.
5th favourite topic actually. 3rd is light refreshments, 4th is 'vigorous debate between senior officers' (i.e. fisticuffs). However the threat of an extended discussion on the Bellerophon-class is indeed a tantalising prospect.

Though to return to 3rd and 4th, I note with sadness that despite the lack of calming light refreshments there was no outbreak of 'discussion' between the rival factions and it appears everyone survived the school trip conference outing unharmed. This is disappointing, but perhaps they are just saving their rage for the next days 'debate'.
 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #142 on: October 07, 2021, 06:22:34 AM »
I have to agree with my esteemed colleague El Pip, the fact that Lord Hyperion did not prepare some form of light refreshment is grave disgrace for the whole Hyperion family. Such affront to conferences members cannot be overlooked.

The Invincible is relatively conservative design so I am not too surprised by the lack of heated discussion between conference members. I am however surprised that no conference member protested the lack of light refreshment. Most likely such protests were removed from official documents by elements of Legion bureaucratic apparatus aligned with Hyperion family to hide it from future generations.

I was confused when I first looked at the graphical representation of the railgun armament, so provided explanation was appreciated. The picture is of course great and I am always happy to see representation of various ships so I can see how other people imagine their warships.
 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2021, 01:31:26 PM »
I must confess my profound disappointment in the readership, which has assumed that just because light refreshments have not been mentioned by the author of this historical text, who understandably if misguidedly had placed his attention on other matters, that Lord Cetus Hyperion of all people would ever even dream of not serving light refreshments to his honored guests.

In fact, a cursory course of light refreshments had been served on the shuttle ride from the surface of Duratus to the orbital yards, and further light refreshments were made available to the guests at the conclusion of the tour in a lavish display of traditional Legion hospitality. At least, this is what has been stated in interviews with present-day members of the Hyperion family, and their word is of course utterly unimpeachable.

I will concede that the lack of fisticuffs is indeed distressing, however.

*Heh.
When only the narrator laughs, that is not a good sign.

The narrator has earned the right to make the readership suffer through terrible puns, particularly those among the readership who have inflicted the double blow of terrible puns and ridiculous acronyms upon his own readership. Anyone noting that the narrator has "earned" such a right only in the judgment of the narrator shall be roundly ignored.  :P

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A most pretty picture. My congratulations to the artist.
I was confused when I first looked at the graphical representation of the railgun armament, so provided explanation was appreciated. The picture is of course great and I am always happy to see representation of various ships so I can see how other people imagine their warships.

I am gratified by the enjoyment of the readership. Any claims by the narrator that this was "a lot of work" should not be taken too seriously as he assuredly enjoyed the process.

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A discussion on engine cooling, truly the sign of a great writing project.

Given that cooling is one of the significant engineering challenges for spaceflight it seemed only fitting.
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #144 on: October 07, 2021, 01:39:46 PM »
Absolutely lovely writing that I enjoyed a lot! An inspiration that I hope more of will come soon! Well done.

How where the illustration made? They are fantastic and help spur the imagination. 
 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #145 on: October 07, 2021, 01:47:28 PM »
Absolutely lovely writing that I enjoyed a lot! An inspiration that I hope more of will come soon! Well done.

How where the illustration made? They are fantastic and help spur the imagination.

The secret ingredient is crime Paint.net and patience. Generally I follow loosely the guidelines of Shipbucket, etc. with regards to line work, shading, etc. Other than that, it is a lot of manual work with the pencil, line, fill tools and good old Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V. And Ctrl+Z of course.

I will say that Paint.net is excellent for pixel art work with its very useful layers tool for keeping different elements out of each others' way.

As far as more art, I make no promises. I enjoy doing such things so it is more probable than not, but the time investment is considerable and I also enjoy things like writing updates and occasionally playing the game, so there is a balance to be struck. I will say that I do have some ideas for a next possible art post, not too far in the future I should hope. Until then there will be the usual diet of snazzy OOB graphics as usual.  ;D
 
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OOC Note: As a reminder for the benefit of the reader, the agenda and attendance for the Naval Conference can be found in the first post of Chapter XXI and may be of some use to keep track of the various personalities involved as well as to be apprised of upcoming topics of discussion - about which speculation is as always encouraged!

N.B. - as it has been some time since the last update, this being calendar time rather than AAR time, the reader might be well-advised to review the previous parts of Chapter XXI to refresh their memory, although of course given the typical length of an update such a commitment is great and fearsome and I could fault no one for declining to engage in such a demanding endeavor.


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25 May 4009

0800: Session on Performance and Assessment of the Bellerophon Class, Duranium Legion Naval Conference

The morning of 25 May was somewhat unique among the mornings of the Naval Conference, in that every Lord Admiral walking into the Conference chamber was in agreement about something - a rare enough occurrence at any hours of the day, let alone those most disagreeable to humankind. The subject of such unprecedented assent was of course the much-maligned Bellerophon class of frigates which had exhibited to say the least a controversial combat history. Indeed, while each flag officer in the chamber held his or her own opinions as to the details, all present agreed - privately, if not publicly - that the class was seriously flawed and had badly underperformed expectations, this being all the more damning for the fact that said expectations had not been terribly high in the first place.

Attempting to strike a neutral tone, Lord Admiral Criasus noted that in fairness to the class it had never been intended to carry much weight from a pure combat perspective. Therefore, he exhorted the assembly to place greater weight on the performance of the class in other roles, such as the contributions of the class to fleet missile defense operations, reconnaissance and intelligence collection missions, and other ancillary actions. At the same time, Lord Admiral Criasus also conceded quite readily that the oft-criticized survivability of the class certainly played a role in its ability to carry out these roles, and so should not be neglected any more than over-emphasized. The reader should, of course, be able to make an astute guess as to how closely these instructions would be followed by the members of the assembly.

At this, Lord Admiral Criasus doubled down on his optimism and opened the floor for discussion. Immediately, Lord Admiral Niobe Chryson sprang up from her seat and rushed to take the floor, clearly full of opinions and more importantly the vigor to express them at great length and high volume. Unfortunately - at least for the Lord Admiral herself - the meeting notes indicate that in her haste to reach the floor she collided with a member of the Imperial Guard who happened to be in her path. Usually this would have been a non-event, after all accidents do happen and despite their intimidating appearance the Imperial Guard soldiers knew this and would respond accordingly. However, such a knowledgeable response could not be assumed from a Lord Admiral, and the record shows that Lord Admiral Chryson made several admittedly puerile remarks to the face of the offending soldier at her characteristic high volume. A brief scuffle broke out shortly after this; the Guard soldier in question would later attest on the paperwork that a mild peacekeeping action had been necessary and this seems to have never been questioned. Ultimately, while the petulant Lord Admiral was not at this time removed from the Conference chamber, in taking time out of her busy schedule to instigate this fracas her desired status as first to the floor would ultimately pass to a colleague who had taken a rather more leisurely approach.

Thus, the morning session began with remarks from Lord Admiral Gaia Pandia, one of the few present who could give a relatively positive, that is to say lukewarm, assessment of the Bellerophon class. With the bare minimum of ado, indeed scarcely five minutes of introductory remarks, the Lord Admiral quickly laid out her case for the utility of the Bellerophon class as commerce raiders, not only in recent encounters with the Belaire but also with an eye towards a future redesign of the class. At this, several members of the assembly were prepared to raise quite loud objections, and indeed the reader could be excused for thinking along much the same lines, for out of the 2,650,000 or so tons of auxiliary and civilian shipping destroyed by the Legion Navy in commerce raids, only 22,500 tons of this could be attributed to the actions of a Bellerophon-class vessel. Lord Admiral Pandia, however, had anticipated these objections and prepared a measured counter-response along three principal lines of reasoning:
  • While her overall contribution to the Legion’s commerce raiding efforts had been minimal, the frigate Bad Omen certainly deserved some credit for demonstrating the feasibility and value of this tactic from her initial interception of a Belaire Burrows-class spaceliner.
  • The long-range sensor capabilities of the Bellerophon class had proven essential to find and fix commercial targets, even if the frigates had not usually participated in the destruction of those targets. Strategically, these capabilities should be considered essential for identification of enemy shipping lanes in the general case.
  • While much of the destroyed auxiliary and civilian tonnage was attributed to larger vessels, such missions should be considered frankly beneath the station of a Legion Navy battle fleet when one or several frigates would be more than adequate for the task, ideally as a detached duty.
Lord Admiral Pandia had been quite strategic in her presentation, as this last point in particular played well to the assembled Lords Admiral who quite appreciated the sentiment of detaching a few small, irrelevant ships to conduct such raids while their main fleets could continue to seek glory in battle. Thusly placated, the majority of Lords Admiral present were willing to concede the validity of the arguments presented, if not necessarily the thesis these arguments had been raised in support of, and under most circumstances the stage would have been set for a calm, rational discussion of commerce raiding doctrine and its place in Legion Naval theory.

Nevertheless, as was Legion Naval tradition at least one strident and likely irrational objection would have to be raised, and as Lord Admiral Chryson appeared to be still slightly concussed at this time (Author’s Note: it remains unclear why this observation was entered into the official Conference minutes) it fell to Lord High Admiral Hilaera Antilochus to perform this sacred duty. The Lord High Admiral astutely noted that while it may perhaps be beneath the station of a full battle fleet to engage in such side actions, in the several cases of escorted auxiliary convoys the Bellerophon class had clearly lacked the protection and firepower to engage the convoy escorts, which had after all been able to inflict minor damage even against the Combined Attack Fleet on 2 March. Thus, the commerce raiding role would require at least a squadron of light cruisers, which would have sufficient protection to minimize potential damage from convoy escorts while bringing sufficient firepower to bear that said escorts would be unable to exchange fire with the Legion cruisers. Thus, Lord High Admiral Antilochus concluded, the Bellerophon class was entirely unnecessary to the success of the Legion Navy and had frankly been proven as such time and again.

This tirade, as blatantly one-sided and logically underdeveloped as it was, nevertheless marked a strong tactic on the part of the Lord High Admiral. While several obvious counter-arguments could be made, any Lord Admiral raising such an argument would in doing so mark themselves as a Bellerophon proponent. While of course few among the Lords Admiral were vehemently opposed to the class, indeed most members of the assembly would readily concede some degree of viability and even necessary for the class, even fewer of them were willing to tie their own political capital to a project with such a mixed service record and uncertain future.

Nevertheless, “fewer” is not zero, and as some counter-arguments were simply too obvious to be ignored entirely it fell to Lord Admiral Pothos Aleus, commander of the Training Corps, to delicately lay out the strongest of these by inquiring how, in the absence of a Bellerophon squadron, a commerce raiding force would deploy long-range sensors to find and fix vulnerable enemy traffic. The initial response to this inquiry was given by Lord Admiral Agamemnon of the Survey Corps, who was perhaps in hindsight attempting to forestall whatever assuredly hot-tempered rejoinder his superior officer had planned. The latter Lord Admiral pointed out that the long-range sensors necessary for these and other sorts of operations would be mounted on the planned command cruiser class, which though it would inevitably be of a compromise design would provide more than adequate capability to replace a Bellerophon squadron. Lord Admiral Aleus, in turn, agreed that the new command cruisers would be more than adequate replacements in the course of most naval operations, but noted that perhaps detaching a valuable command cruiser from a battle fleet to seek out secondary targets would perhaps not be the best use of resources, thus returning to the previous question. Not one to be denied twice, Lord High Admiral Antilochus leapt at this second chance to address the question, perhaps too eagerly as her response could be classified as little else but a serious political blunder:

“We don’t need the bloody sensors!”

While the Lord High Admiral could perhaps be commended for her rhetorical astuteness, having successfully composed a reply which failed to contain any logic fallacy - albeit by containing no logic whatsoever - such commendations must be tertiary at best compared to the egregious slight she had committed. The implications were immediately made explicit, as the Lady Imperator Ellen Scamander promptly rose from her rather prominent chair at the head of the honored guest section and exited the Conference chamber, followed by a column of decidedly uneasy-looking aides. As the head of the famous Scamander Corporation, sole provider of all active and passive electronic systems to the Legion Navy, the Lady Scamander while generally characterized by a rarified air of elegant indifference was quite opinionated on the subject of whether or not the Legion Navy did, in fact, need the bloody sensors. As such, while the official Scamander public relations department would later claim that the Lady Imperator had been regrettably forced to step away from the Naval Conference on urgent Corporation business, in reality the implications of the act were clear, most especially those implications most relevant to Lord High Admiral Antilochus’ career aspirations.

As such, a motion was hastily prepared and a voice vote rapidly held, establishing to the tune of thirteen assents and one abstention that the Legion Navy did, indeed, need the bloody sensors.

With the pivotal role of the Bellerophon class, or one not too much unlike it, to Legion Naval doctrine thus clarified, the discussion throughout the remainder of the Conference session would proceed with a less adversarial tone, if only slightly so. This being said, pivotal or not the members of the assembly readily agreed that the Bellerophon class had clearly underperformed in that role, with the remaining part of the problem being to determine which flaw(s) in the class had contributed to render it such a disappointment. Thus-satisfied with the morning’s accomplishments so far, the Naval Conference was briefly adjourned and light refreshments served.

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As the morning session resumed following the well-deserved break, the attendees of the Naval Conference set about the challenging task of determining why the Bellerophon class was so terrible. While many objections and more than a few pejoratives were raised about the class, for the sake of the historical record three principal lines of objection were brought most sharply into focus: misconstruction of the class’s doctrinal role, insufficient armor protection, and inadequate offensive capability.

The topic of the Bellerophon class role was perhaps unexpectedly broached by Lord Admiral Criasus, “unexpected” here referring not as much to the topic in and of itself but rather to the surprising vitriol which the topic engendered among the assembly. The fault of the Lord Admiral in this matter was quite innocent, as in the interest of rational and fact-based discussion he had highlighted that of the eight Bellerophons lost to enemy action, six of these had been lost in close-range beam engagements against Belaire fleets, which naturally could be taken to suggest that the class would perform much better in practice if simply withheld from such encounters, while remaining in battle fleet service for anti-missile defense work. On the surface this was an entirely sensible case, certainly not one made with any sense of partisanship on the part of the Speaker, and indeed similar points had been brought up in a more tangential manner in previous Conference sessions. By this stage, however, certain hostilities among the Lords Admiral towards doctrinal evolution had boiled over and it was Lord Admiral Criasus’s misfortune to remove the lid from this particular pot.

The chief opposition arose from the rather large portion of hardline conservative members of the assembly, in a perhaps confusing twist these were not the doctrinal conservatives of previous debates but rather the cultural conservatives of the Legion Navy who saw this seemingly innocent proposal as a threat to centuries of glorious Legion military tradition. Grand Admiral Thanatos Adrastus, as the ranking member of this considerable faction, laid out the crux of this reactionary position. In essence, he argued that enshrining in doctrine that a certain class of warship should explicitly not engage the enemy in battle ran contrary to the core ethos of the Legion Navy, this being boldly sailing forth to engage the enemy head-on in glorious battle at point-blank range like proper men and women. As controversial as the Hellfire class had been, given its role as an attritional sniping specialist rather than a traditional frontal attack combatant, from a cultural perspective the Hellfires were clearly designed and deployed with the sole purpose of engaging and destroying enemies of the Legion in open battle. To codify in official doctrine that the Bellerophon class, or any like it, was explicitly to avoid battle would remove any illusion of traditional Legion military values associated with the class. How, then, could any self-respecting void sailor of the Legion Navy be asked, let alone expected, to follow such an - the Lord Grand Admiral emphasized that he did not choose his next word lightly - emasculating doctrinal imperative?

As there could only be two real resolutions to this problem, it fell to Lord Admiral Chryson, by now apparently recovered from her concussive symptoms, to exposit the first. In a set of surprisingly brief (once edited for content) remarks, she asserted that Lord Grand Admiral Adrastus was completely correct in his interpretation of Legion Naval doctrine and tradition, namely that a Legion Naval warship must be a capable combatant to be worth fielding at all. Equally certain, she stated, was the fact that the Bellerophon class was in no way a capable combatant nor was it likely to be rendered such by any sort of iterative design changes. Thus, she concluded, as a sensor-bearing class of ships was still necessary, for reasons previously established, the only acceptable solution would be to design an entirely new class of sensor-bearing ships which could also function as capable front-line combatants. While left unsaid at this time, it was clear that Lord Admiral Chryson was implying that a larger class, with at least a destroyer if not cruiser-sized hull, would be necessary to meet this criterion - certainly, her own preference for larger warships was not unknown to the members of the assembly.

Lord Grand Admiral Adrastus, ever one to advise against rash judgments, immediately moved to counter this argument, urging caution while advancing the second possible resolution to the problem he himself had raised. Specifically, he argued that while it was unconscionable for Legion Naval doctrine to instruct any ship class to flee from battle, it was entirely wise and practical to provide for certain ship classes not to encounter a battle which they would be unsuited to win. To wit, turning to a projector-and-screen setup which had heretofore gone unnoticed by the members of the assembly, the Lord Grand Admiral asked his colleagues to recall the agreed-upon revised doctrine from an earlier session:


The nominally agreed-upon organization for the future Legion Navy battle fleet, based on doctrinal agreements and other discussions up until the Conference sessions of 25 May. Lord Grand Admiral Adrastus was quick to emphasize that this was not a finalized organization, and would still be subject to the final vote at the conclusion of the Conference, but would here serve as a suitable illustrative aid. Notably, while the assignment of the command cruiser as the jump cruiser for the heavy squadron was established in a prior session, at this time neither the fighter loadout of the Judgment Day-class cruiser nor the final composition of the Beam Squadron had been settled, albeit neither matter was anticipated to lead to any undue quarreling.

Given the visual aid, the Lord Grand Admiral considered his solution quite obvious; as an optional attachment, the Bellerophons or any successor class would simply not be assigned to any fleet which could expect to do battle on terms unfavorable to the class. This improvement in class utilization would be enabled only by the presence of the new command cruiser class, which would ensure that every battle fleet had organic long-range sensor capabilities even without a Bellerophon attachment.

At this, the reader will be unsurprised to learn, two closely related objections were raised. The first, raised by several Lords Admiral familiar with the combat record of the class including Lord Admiral Criasus himself, was that in the past, the Bellerophons had frequently found themselves engaged in battles they were ill-suited for regardless of any preceding hope or intention. Lord Grand Admiral Adrastus readily conceded this point; however, he noted, the Bellerophons had always heretofore been considered an essential component of a battle fleet, rather than an optional mission specialist unit. Prior doctrine, he correctly assessed, had not properly allowed for the detachment of a frigate squadron when not called for - in large part, he added, because the frigate squadron was always called for by any fleet otherwise lacking long-range sensor coverage.

A closely following objection was raised by the eminently predictable Lord Admiral Chryson, who complained that while “doctrine” was all well and good, battlefield reality was such that a Bellerophon squadron would inevitably find itself hurled into an unexpected and unfavorable combat situation. Any class which could not handle such a twist of fate simply did not deserve to be listed on any Legion Navy roster, save perhaps that of the local scrapping yard. Once again, Lord Grand Admiral Adrastus did concede the point raised - the Bellerophon class as it currently stood was a nightmare of poor survivability and some revision was undoubtedly called for. Whether this necessitated a mere revision of the class or a completely new type was a matter for the afternoon session; the Lord Grand Admiral despite his advocacy to this point would certainly not be sticking his neck out for the class any more than any one of his colleagues would. His essential point, then, was simply that a “combat-capable” class was not strictly necessary to fulfill the sensor-bearing role, rather a less demanding designation of “combat-survivable” should be sufficient in the worst cases given the proper doctrinal approach already agreed upon in the previous sessions.

As this was followed by a comparative dearth of further objections and counter-objections, it quickly became apparent that the assembly by and large could accept or at least tolerate this line of reasoning. If nothing else, the logic laid down by Lord Grand Admiral Adrastus served the self-interests of the Lords Admiral, these being that on one hand the major problems with the Bellerophon class could be resolved with work already done previously on the subject of doctrine, thus no further work on such an egregious and tiresome subject would be necessary, and on the other hand that some improvements to the class remained clearly necessary and thus with a modicum of further discussion the Conference attendees would be able to point to some superficial changes and claim that they had made progress to solve the Navy’s problems. With this attitude, the Lords Admiral eagerly turned their attention towards the simpler, more concrete, and surely less acrimonious topic of the actual specifications of the Bellerophon class, seeking to establish in as few words as possible, for a loose definition of “few”, which changes might be necessary to correct the by now rather minimized failings of the actual design.

Following from the newly-defined requirement of “combat-survivable”, the discussion naturally turned first to the armor protection of the Bellerophons. Each frigate was protected by 381 mm of composite armor plating, this being three-quarters as thick as the armor of the Legion’s destroyer classes or half as thick as the armor on a Legion Navy light cruiser. In the original design documents prior to the year 4000, this armor thickness had been stated as a requirement as it would provide protection against nuclear missile warheads up to 15,000 kilotons in strength, a value considered well beyond any reasonable enemy capability. In practice, damage from stray missiles had been a rare consideration, with the notable exception of the understrength Cruiser Squadron 5 during the pursuit of fleeing Belaire fleet elements after the jump point assault of 19 January, and under usual circumstances the answer to stray missiles had been not to allow any by laying down an impenetrable wall of point defense fire. While Lord Admiral Chryson was quick to point out the obvious example of the Battle of Gliese 1, when this doctrine had failed rather spectacularly, others among the assembly were quick to point out that the doctrinal failure had led to more than a few stray missiles, and in any case the problem had been resolved through the sacking of those responsible.

Thus, administrative miscalculations aside, the greatest threat to the survival of the Bellerophon class had been the powerful laser weapons of the Belaire Sovremenny-class cruisers. This was for once acknowledged by all present without debate, however the solution to the problem was far less clear. Much of this unclear nature was due to a lack of facts in evidence: while the Belaire light lasers were known to (barely) lack capability to penetrate even the armor of a Bellerophon at point-blank range, the medium lasers suffered from no such problem and for these the limiting case had been the 508 mm armor plating of the Charybdis-class destroyers. Naively, this would suggest that a simple up-armoring of Legion frigate classes to match the destroyer armor scheme should solve the problem neatly. However, the maximum penetration capacity of the Belaire heavy lasers remained unclear, although it was clearly sufficient to deal internal damage to a Legion destroyer on the first volley of fire. As such, even a one-third increase in the armor thickness of the frigates would not guarantee survival against point-blank heavy laser fire, thus the merit of adding extra armor remained open to question. Ultimately, the question would come down to whether sufficient sensor capabilities would be retained in the face of an up-armoring program, as it would make little sense to design a “combat-survivable” class which was not useful enough to ever risk being near combat in any case. In the grand tradition of Legion Navy ship design, the Lords Admiral settled on the most familiar and conventional solution available, this being to punt the question to the afternoon session.

This left only one remaining question, at least as far as those present would admit, which was the question of the class’ armament. While offensive weaponry would almost surely have crossed the line of “combat-survivable”, the contribution of the frigate classes to fleet point defense was a crucial element of Legion Naval defensive doctrine and thus merited at least a cursory treatment. The treatment was indeed cursory; Lord Admiral Pothos Aleus was the latest member of the assembly to continue the disturbing trend of coming prepared for the discussion, and presented a numerical analysis performed by experts at the Duratus Naval Academy. To summarize, the experts concluded that had the pair of Bellerophons present at the Battle of Gliese 1 been armed with twice as many railgun batteries (i.e., four apiece rather than two), only one or perhaps two more Mongolican missiles would have been shot down per volley on average. This would have made virtually no contribution to the outcome of the battle, and thus the natural conclusion was that additional armament for the frigate class would be entirely superfluous and make no contribution to either the primary mission nor the doctrinal requirement of combat survivability.

In something of a last-ditch attempt to salvage some gains from the morning session, Lord Admiral Chryson pointed out that while additional weapons would not contribute to the existing primary mission of the Bellerophon class, there was no reason that the mission profile could not be extended as part of a class redesign or (ideally, in her view) replacement. For example, a light raider role could be a natural fit for a class which already excelled at finding and fixing vulnerable targets, and would make the class just slightly less useless on balance. While this suggestion was naturally met with skepticism from the rest of the Lords Admiral, sufficient merit could be seen in Lord Admiral Chryson’s arguments that she could not be dismissed out of hand. For this reason, as well as a general feeling of peckishness which was starting to overtake the members of the assembly, the grand tradition of punting was once again invoked, this time by Lord Admiral Criasus himself who stated that the discussion of new roles for the class or its replacement properly fell under the purview of the afternoon session, which was after all denoted on the Conference agenda as the “Session on Future Directions for the Fleet Scouting Role”. As there could be no argument against this unimpeachable logic, or more precisely there was no one present who cared to raise such an argument, the matter was officially marked as punted.

After this the Naval Conference was adjourned for a light luncheon.

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It could here be noted, candidly, that there is a strong tendency among students of history to seek assignment of “winners” and “losers” arising from a particularly vigorous debate in the historical record. In the vast majority of cases, such tendencies are, to use a diplomatic phrase, misguided oversimplifications, the historical reality being nearly always far too complex to be reduced to “one-nil”. Nevertheless, as this particular morning session of the Naval Conference concluded, a rare case of an unambiguous winner was found in the person of Lord Admiral Gaia Pandia. Herself being frankly indifferent to the eventual fate of the Bellerophon class, her session-opening remarks ostensibly in defense of the class had been in fact a clever and highly successful misdirection ploy. By immediately driving the members of the assembly to debate the efficacy of the Bellerophon class for commerce raiding, Lord Admiral Pandia had caused her colleagues, consciously or (far more likely) not, to accept the validity of commerce raiding as a viable and central element of Legion Naval doctrine, which had of course been her own key interest all along. While this would of course have an immediate impact for the afternoon session of the Conference, the full ramifications of this seemingly subtle doctrinal shift on Legion Naval history would require far longer to work out.

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OOC Notes: Suffice to say, rumors of this AAR's death have been greatly exaggerated.  :P  While I have worked hard to keep to the traditional nature of this AAR by producing an intimidating wall of text to frighten away those faint of heart, I have at least been merciful and provided a picture in the middle to brighten the collective day of the readership. Or darken it, as the prevailing opinion might be.

That being said, I will admit that aside from the general business of life this update has been much-delayed in part due to the great difficulty in constructing it, with some parts undergoing as many as four drafts before I found something that could 'stick' and not be terrible. At least this is my opinion, but if anyone else finds this terrible anyways I am afraid that I cannot take responsibility for that.

Up next we turn once more to the chief attraction of this work, I speak of course of ship design discussions ad nauseum. This should prove considerably more straightforward of an update to write, though I make no promises as to the hour of its arrival.

 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #147 on: May 04, 2022, 04:31:43 PM »
<!< Whats this?! This is far to quick! Next you'll tell me you'll update again before 2023! Far to fast!
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Good luck man, gotta read this now. Onward to glorious battle tea and crumpets over a discussion of the doctrinal role of a particle beam frigates, recon frigates or lack their off.
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Thus, the morning session began with remarks from Lord Admiral Gaia Pandia
Hurrah! Good old Pandia bringing some sense to proceedings.

Not one to be denied twice, Lord High Admiral Antilochus leapt at this second chance to address the question, perhaps too eagerly as her response could be classified as little else but a serious political blunder:

“We don’t need the bloody sensors!”
As a matter of doctrine Antilochus is probably correct, as mentioned later the Legion just charge as fast as they can at the objective and then shoot the enemy point blank in the face. They are not ones for subtlety or grand manoeuvrers, they are the IJA and not the IJN in this metaphor. Long range sensors may be nice to have, they would certainly make clearing up later easier, but they are not actually needed by the battle fleet.

As such, a motion was hastily prepared and a voice vote rapidly held, establishing to the tune of thirteen assents and one abstention that the Legion Navy did, indeed, need the bloody sensors.
Cowards.

Thus-satisfied with the morning’s accomplishments so far, the Naval Conference was briefly adjourned and light refreshments served.
Thus we are reassured that the Legion has not descended into barbarism.

The discussions on why the Bellerophon class was so terrible were informing, though we must keep an eye on Adrastus. Any man who confidently reaches for a projection and screen setup in the midst of such heated debate is at best suspicious. This is proved by his ideas about something being 'combat survivable', which frankly strays dangerously close to heresy. And as will come up later, Pothos Aleus was also suspiciously well prepared as well, the idea of doing statistical analysis and assessment seems very contradictory to the "Fly closer so I can shoot them in the face" doctrine of the Legion.

others among the assembly were quick to point out that the doctrinal failure had led to more than a few stray missiles, and in any case the problem had been resolved through the sacking of those responsible.
This sort of 'problem solving' never goes wrong and I am pleased the Lord Admirals are still citing it as a success.

In the grand tradition of Legion Navy ship design, the Lords Admiral settled on the most familiar and conventional solution available, this being to punt the question to the afternoon session.
The efforts they will go to in order to avoid just making the Bellerophon replacement a destroyer sized ship is impressive. Despite her unfortunate start with the Imperial Guard I feel Chryson has the best of the argument here, skepticism from the rest notwithstanding. At best I think they designers will be able to manage a properly armoured, decent sensor, but no weapon ship for the redesign, that seems fairly 'emasculating' to use the words of the conference. The other permutations (not armoured enough or too small a sensor) are also unacceptable to Legion doctrine. So just bite the bullet and make it a decent size ship, one which can pick up an auxiliary role when not required by the battle fleet.

Nevertheless, as this particular morning session of the Naval Conference concluded, a rare case of an unambiguous winner was found in the person of Lord Admiral Gaia Pandia.
Of course, because she's amazing.
 
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Re: The Official Chronicle of the Duranium Legion
« Reply #149 on: June 30, 2022, 10:58:22 PM »
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I apologize, for I am about to continue to disappoint you.  ;)


Hurrah! Good old Pandia bringing some sense to proceedings.

Someone has to, and the other thirteen are too far gone to be trusted with the task - is what Lord Admiral Pandia would tell you at the pub while she drowns her work-related sorrows.

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As a matter of doctrine Antilochus is probably correct, as mentioned later the Legion just charge as fast as they can at the objective and then shoot the enemy point blank in the face. They are not ones for subtlety or grand manoeuvrers, they are the IJA and not the IJN in this metaphor. Long range sensors may be nice to have, they would certainly make clearing up later easier, but they are not actually needed by the battle fleet.

Ah, but without sensors, how would we find enemy fleets to charge straight at? Assaulting jump points is one way and certainly a popular one, hence reducing the scout frigates to an optiona squadron attachment rather than mandatory, but it is not enough on its own.

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Cowards.

Indeed.

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the idea of doing statistical analysis and assessment seems very contradictory to the "Fly closer so I can shoot them in the face" doctrine of the Legion.

It is important to have some way to know who is the very best at shooting them in the face, for promotion purposes. The implications of this statement are left as an exercise for the reader.

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On this note, let us return to our intrepid heroes characters and see if any of them might score some promotion points, for another update is nigh upon us.
 
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