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Question about organizing your ground forces.
« on: May 03, 2021, 04:35:39 AM »
So I`m able to create let`s say a batallion. Now if I make five different ones how do I combine them into a single cohesive unit like a division.
I want to be able to transport and use them as a single unit but with enough flexibility that I can change the composition on the fly.
If there is an obvious answer then apologies in advance.

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 04:54:11 AM »
You need to create formation, that will have enough HQ capacity to command itself and 5 battalions. For example, battalion is 6000 and HQ formation as well 6000, so HQ formation needs HQ capacity of 36000. Then when you construct them all, you drag the battalions to HQ formation and they became subordinate units.

Video by Garfunkel: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=10680.0

Videos by SpaceMarine, there will most likely be some dealing with ground forces: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=11003.0

List of topics that deal with various things, including ground forces: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=10666.0
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 04:50:12 PM »
When you load a parent HQ into a transport, look for a checkbox called load subordinates.
This will load any units which are subordinate to the parent HQ and save you a bunch of clicking.
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 05:58:19 PM »
When you load a parent HQ into a transport, look for a checkbox called load subordinates.
This will load any units which are subordinate to the parent HQ and save you a bunch of clicking.
Until you don't have enough troop space...

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2021, 03:03:35 AM »
Can I have the supply units in the unit that is higher in the hierarchy, will the subordinates still get supplied?
 

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2021, 06:56:06 AM »
Can I have the supply units in the unit that is higher in the hierarchy, will the subordinates still get supplied?
If the supply elements are Light Vehicles, yes.  Infantry supply elements can only supply their own formation.
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2021, 12:06:41 PM »
So, wait:
Even the lowest formation in the hierarchy requires a HQ unit?
Like, the folks commanded by the lowest ranking officer, size 500 tons, still need a HQ with 500 command points, to get all the bonuses?
 

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2021, 12:18:21 PM »
So, wait:
Even the lowest formation in the hierarchy requires a HQ unit?
Like, the folks commanded by the lowest ranking officer, size 500 tons, still need a HQ with 500 command points, to get all the bonuses?

Yes. Although at that size, a HQ unit may represent little more than the platoon/company commander and his XO, depending on your personal RP.
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2021, 12:28:38 PM »
Yes. Although at that size, a HQ unit may represent little more than the platoon/company commander and his XO, depending on your personal RP.
Darn it!
This means that several hundred of formations created are inefficient! Great. Remind me, how much resources we get back from deleting a formation, version 1.13.0?
Well, at least I got yet another addition to suggestions collection - change color in the formations screen, if troops do not receive superior commander's bonuses.
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2021, 12:47:21 PM »
Remind me, how much resources we get back from deleting a formation, version 1.13.0?

1.13, none. 1.14 it will be I think 30% from scrapping the formation.
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2021, 12:49:07 PM »
1.13, none. 1.14 it will be I think 30% from scrapping the formation.
Darn it times two...
Guess it is time to find where you can spawn in minerals on planets in space master...
 

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2021, 12:51:01 PM »

Darn it!
This means that several hundred of formations created are inefficient! Great. Remind me, how much resources we get back from deleting a formation, version 1.13.0?
Well, at least I got yet another addition to suggestions collection - change color in the formations screen, if troops do not receive superior commander's bonuses.
You are correcting a mistake made by a misunderstanding of the rules so just design the new formations, delete the old ones and use SM to replace them with the new units .
Or design new slightly larger formations with the added command element, build new formations with just the command element and use the existing troops to reinforce these new units. I'd use SM its easier
 
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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2021, 12:51:37 PM »

1.13, none. 1.14 it will be I think 30% from scrapping the formation.
Also, I forgot to ask 1 last thing - do these tiny formations at least get bonuses from officer assigned directly to them?
 

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2021, 12:54:32 PM »

1.13, none. 1.14 it will be I think 30% from scrapping the formation.
Also, I forgot to ask 1 last thing - do these tiny formations at least get bonuses from officer assigned directly to them?

 - Yes. However, when you say "tiny" do you mean formations that are less than 1,000 Tons? If so, they're going suffer a terribly high number of breakthroughs...
 

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Re: Question about organizing your ground forces.
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2021, 12:56:19 PM »
Also, I forgot to ask 1 last thing - do these tiny formations at least get bonuses from officer assigned directly to them?

From wiki, emphasis mine:
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7) HQ: The headquarters capacity of the component in tons. This is the total size of the formation (or formation hierarchy) that can be effectively controlled by a commander based in a unit with this component. To assign a commander to a formation, one of the units within that formation requires a headquarters component.

So you should not be able to assign an officer to such a formation, and if you can it is probably a bug(?) and at any rate should not confer any bonuses. That said, the ground units systems are known to have a fair amount of bugs remaining so it is not impossible for that to be the case.