Posted by: skoormit
« on: April 26, 2020, 09:55:07 PM »Dihydrogen Monoxide is especially bad if it gets in the lungs!
I think you mean Hydrogen Hydroxide.
Dihydrogen Monoxide is especially bad if it gets in the lungs!
Quote from: Pedroig link=topic=11007. msg126968#msg126968 date=1587575725Yes, so same logic should apply to CO2 or for Water for that matter. . .
Chlorine is a dangerous gas. It gets warning labels and everything.
Everything else, moderation is key, too much of anything can be dangerous to living, and a small set of those life needs a minimum amount to survive.
Feel free to look up Dihydrogen Monoxide. It makes for some interesting reading.Quote from: Father Tim link=topic=11007. msg126978#msg126978 date=1587576729Any gas that becomes dangerous in high enough concentrations is labelled dangerous at those concentrations.
Which is not all of them. Nitrogen, for example, never becomes dangerous. As long as a human gets enough oxygen, and the total atmospheric pressure doesn't exceed their capacity, the amount of nitrogen is irrelevent and non-toxic. Nitrogen dioxide, on the other hand. . .
Ehm. . . nitrogen is pretty dangerous in high enough concentrations. Mostly because concentration as a term is kinda relative. The biggest issue with nitrogen is that it's an inert gas that can displace oxygen from a location, which is why there's a number of regulations regarding the use of and work in inert atmospheres, including nitrogen atmospheres because it's a colourless and odourless gas. People can and have died from entering a space with an inert nitrogen atmosphere where all the oxygen has been forced out and the nitrogen is used to maintain pressure and prevent the reentry of oxygen into the room.
You're in luck Pedroig - oxygen IS a dangerous gas once the atmosphere of a body is more than 30% oxygen!
So is basically every other gas we breath on a daily basis. All of them should be labelled as dangerous honestly. But, its Steve's game. His decision.
Yes, so same logic should apply to CO2 or for Water for that matter...
Chlorine is a dangerous gas. It gets warning labels and everything.
Everything else, moderation is key, too much of anything can be dangerous to living, and a small set of those life needs a minimum amount to survive.
"dangerous gases" aren't meant to indicate that an atmosphere is dangerous to a tree, it's dangerous to your primary species (which by the mechanics are generally land dwelling, oxygen-needing, carbon dioxide-expelling creatures, though I'd like to see more mechanical support in future for different kinds of races eg. aquatic).Quote from: Father Tim link=topic=11007. msg126952#msg126952 date=1587574343Quote from: Pedroig link=topic=11007. msg126913#msg126913 date=1587570042Not sure how CO2 became dangerous, guess there will be no plants on new worlds. . .
Basic chemistry. Acidifying the bloodstream. Poisoning the body. Displacing the oxygen from red blood cells.
I guess that means basic biology as well.
Carbon dioxide in high concentrations is dangerous to oxygen-breathing life forms.
Yes but what uses C02 to create O2? Plants. Its dangerous to us humans. And to some plants in extremely high amounts. But if you are trying to terraform a world w/a high CO2 level. Then the best way to terraform it would be to transplant massive plants or just move chunks of forests or something.
Yes, so same logic should apply to CO2 or for Water for that matter...
Chlorine is a dangerous gas. It gets warning labels and everything.
Everything else, moderation is key, too much of anything can be dangerous to living, and a small set of those life needs a minimum amount to survive.
Any gas that becomes dangerous in high enough concentrations is labelled dangerous at those concentrations.
Which is not all of them. Nitrogen, for example, never becomes dangerous. As long as a human gets enough oxygen, and the total atmospheric pressure doesn't exceed their capacity, the amount of nitrogen is irrelevent and non-toxic. Nitrogen dioxide, on the other hand. . .
You mean you don't:
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Yes, so same logic should apply to CO2 or for Water for that matter...
Chlorine is a dangerous gas. It gets warning labels and everything.
Everything else, moderation is key, too much of anything can be dangerous to living, and a small set of those life needs a minimum amount to survive.
I think its really stupid to make an entire world that is water honestly. I dont see much point in it. What are you going to do with it? Orbital fishing platforms or something?
I think its really stupid to make an entire world that is water honestly. I dont see much point in it. What are you going to do with it? Orbital fishing platforms or something?
You're in luck Pedroig - oxygen IS a dangerous gas once the atmosphere of a body is more than 30% oxygen!
So is basically every other gas we breath on a daily basis. All of them should be labelled as dangerous honestly. But, its Steve's game. His decision.
Yes but what uses C02 to create O2? Plants. Its dangerous to us humans. And to some plants in extremely high amounts. But if you are trying to terraform a world w/a high CO2 level. Then the best way to terraform it would be to transplant massive plants or just move chunks of forests or something.
So who says 'terraforming to remove CO2' isn't adding massive amounts of plants? My TF installations are certainly spraying vast amounts of lichen, moss, and blue-green algae across the world.