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Title: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Razgriz on October 07, 2024, 06:10:01 PM
My ships wont resupply their MSP on condition deployment time exceeded ; refuel, resupply and overhaul.

Is this intended or bug or skill issue?

Is there any workarounds?
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Garfunkel on October 07, 2024, 07:29:03 PM
Do you have any MSP available at the colony where they are trying to do that?
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Razgriz on October 07, 2024, 09:14:24 PM
yup  :)
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Alsadius on October 07, 2024, 10:59:12 PM
Does the colony have a spaceport and/or a cargo shuttle station? (A cargo bay on the ship would also work).

You can't move cargo without some sort of cargo handling option being there to move it, and MSP is cargo for this purpose.
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Ghostly on October 08, 2024, 04:42:23 AM
Does the colony have a spaceport and/or a cargo shuttle station? (A cargo bay on the ship would also work).

You can't move cargo without some sort of cargo handling option being there to move it, and MSP is cargo for this purpose.
That is not the case actually, you can both resupply from and transfer supplies to a colony without cargo handling on either end, although it does seem fairly slow.
https://imgur.com/a/0lKxwQu (https://imgur.com/a/0lKxwQu)
Cargo Shuttles are necessary for ship-to-ship resupply only.
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Alsadius on October 08, 2024, 08:48:13 AM
Huh, I stand corrected. Guess I need to go update a couple of my wiki edits, then.

Just to make sure I'm not totally out to lunch: you do need facilities to transfer cargo/population, fuel, and missiles in C#, right? It's just MSP (and ground troops) that can be transferred between an empty rock and a ship with no logistics components?
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: skoormit on October 08, 2024, 09:02:56 AM
Just to make sure I'm not totally out to lunch: you do need facilities to transfer cargo/population, fuel, and missiles in C#, right? It's just MSP (and ground troops) that can be transferred between an empty rock and a ship with no logistics components?

From the original StevePost (http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=8495.msg109593#msg109593):
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"A ship can only resupply at a population with a spaceport, a cargo shuttle station or at least one maintenance facility, or from a ship with cargo shuttles."
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Steve Walmsley on October 08, 2024, 09:10:30 AM
Does the colony have a spaceport and/or a cargo shuttle station? (A cargo bay on the ship would also work).

You can't move cargo without some sort of cargo handling option being there to move it, and MSP is cargo for this purpose.
That is not the case actually, you can both resupply from and transfer supplies to a colony without cargo handling on either end, although it does seem fairly slow.
https://imgur.com/a/0lKxwQu (https://imgur.com/a/0lKxwQu)
Cargo Shuttles are necessary for ship-to-ship resupply only.

You can use maintenance facilities, but you need cargo handling if MF don't exist.
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: paolot on October 08, 2024, 11:59:19 AM
You need also population to work in the facilities.
I have planets needing pop (i.e., negative value in Available Workers), where ships don't perform maintenance. They suffer damages, so I have to resupply them every now and then, and they can repair by themselves.
Title: Re: MSP resupply on Overhaul order
Post by: Ghostly on October 09, 2024, 01:38:12 AM
You need also population to work in the facilities.
I have planets needing pop (i.e., negative value in Available Workers), where ships don't perform maintenance. They suffer damages, so I have to resupply them every now and then, and they can repair by themselves.

If pop and total maintenance capacity are above 0, they're still being maintained partially as per rule 5 here: https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=8495.msg101959#msg101959 (https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=8495.msg101959#msg101959)