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Title: I miss the Romans
Post by: Kurt on December 30, 2008, 09:55:44 AM
I have been reading a trilogy I recently found at a used book store, and it got me thinking about these stories.  The books are Procurator, New Barbarians, and Cry Republic by Krik Mitchell, and they are about a Roman Empire that survived to modern times in an alternate universe.  Interesting books, but they got me thinking about these stories, and I have to say, I think that this set of stories conveyed the background and "feeling" of a modern Rome just as well as the books I've been reading, if not better.  

To bad you stopped writing them.

Kurt
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 30, 2008, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: "Kurt"
I have been reading a trilogy I recently found at a used book store, and it got me thinking about these stories.  The books are Procurator, New Barbarians, and Cry Republic by Krik Mitchell, and they are about a Roman Empire that survived to modern times in an alternate universe.  Interesting books, but they got me thinking about these stories, and I have to say, I think that this set of stories conveyed the background and "feeling" of a modern Rome just as well as the books I've been reading, if not better.  

To bad you stopped writing them.

Kurt

Kurt, I have read those books also. The only problem I had with the series was the unsatisfying end to Cry Republic. It felt like the author just got tired of the subject and stopped it suddenly to move on to something else. :cry:

And thank you for your compliment in my portrayal of a space-faring Roma. I have put my very best effort into trying to make them seem as if they were real. As for the Test of Wills stuff, I never stopped writing the stories, I just stopped posting it on Aurora. The reason why is it seemed there was no feedback or interest anymore, so I stopped. I have actually finished A Test of Wills: A Time of Fire, it came in a little over 194K words and 373 pages, and am now working on A Test of Wills: The Time of Blood. Below is a segment from the new story:


Terra, Homeworld of the Roman Republic


Casca stormed up the stone steps and entered the building housing the Roman government, an assembly of Senator’s and the leaders of the five hundred largest factions on Terra. It was an ancient and stratified mode of government, which had served well in the past but its own view of enlightened self-interest had proven to be its downfall in this matter. Casca could only hope it wasn’t a literal downfall which awaited them all.

“Honored Senators,” the Pro-Praetor of the Senate had all ready begun as Casca took his seat near the front of the chamber, his personal wealth and head of the military giving him a huge influence. “The Denevans have begun their assault on Africa Proconsularis.”

The room erupted in a muffled roar of exclamation and accusation. Casca merely sat still and said nothing. He’d seen this coming and was grateful his military commanders had too.

“We have planned for this!” The Pro-Praetor yelled over the forum. “All ready our Classis is fighting them in Africa Proconsularis, they are holding them steady and preparing to counterattack!”

The door at the back of the forum burst open and an exhausted aide staggered forward, it looked like he had run across the whole city though in truth it had just been the neighboring building. He ran up to Casca and said breathlessly, “The Denevans…” he gasped. “They’re across the border!”

He received a number of superior looks from the assembled Senators. “Yes, we know.” One of them said with a syrupy-sweet voice. “We are fighting them at Africa Proconsularis.”

“Africa Proconsularis?” the man winced. “No, they’re over the border at Baetica!”

“You should get your facts straight.” The Pro-Praetor began but was interrupted by Casca standing up.

“What have you heard about Baetica? Speak quickly.”

“A Denevan fleet crossed the border a couple of hours ago, we had next to nothing in the system, our guard fleets all went to Africa Proconsularis.” He relayed his story. “We received a distress signal and some sensor information, then it all went black.”

The room was suddenly completely silent; with Baetica gone the Denevans had a clear path to Noricum Ripense, the Capitol of the Europan Prefecture itself. Disturbing as that was it was even more worrying to the assembled leaders because virtually the entire Classis Basilikos was at Africa Proconsularis getting pinned down by a feint attack.

“They tricked us.” Casca shook his head. “It was all an elaborate bluff.”

“No.” The Pro-Praetor said forcefully. “It isn’t a trick, intelligence confirms the attack on Africa Proconsularis is being led by Fleet-Lord Tera’Kah himself! It must be the real attack!”

“It’s a bluff.” Casca repeated.

“They wouldn’t have their best commander lead a feint!”

Casca spun on the Pro-Praetor with a snarl. “Well they just did! They probably sent their best because they knew it would make the trap juicier for us, and we wandered right into it!”

“But Tera’Kah…”

“He is a Fleet-Lord and obeys his orders, by Mars’ bloody balls I bet he probably came up with the plan!” Casca grimaced. “By Iuppiter, we’ve been outsmarted on this one.”

“We need the Classis Basilikos to retreat back to Noricum Ripense.” The Imperator announced.

“And abandon Africa Proconsularis?” a Senator shouted. “My Gens has major holdings on Africa Proconsularis, it must be defended!”

“Not at the expense of Noricum Ripense and the Europan Prefecture.” The Pro-Praetor’s sense of self-preservation kicked in. “Get the ships back!”

“It isn’t that easy.” Casca found himself remaining calm and easily accepting the unfolding disaster. “The Classis has to disengage itself from the Denevans first, if they run they’ll be cut to pieces.”

“Well they need to get back to Noricum, if Europa falls, we’re helpless!” The Pro-Praetor yelled.

“If I were you Pro-Praetor, I’d get my affairs in order.” Casca looked at him and the now eerily silent Senatorial Forum. He had the right to tell them all he had predicted this and more preparations should have been taken to defend themselves, but it was pointless now and far too late. “And perhaps say a prayer to the Gods that you die in the bombardment and not the invasion itself.”



Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: schroeam on December 30, 2008, 06:55:11 PM
I too have wondered what came of Roma Galactica.  Your stories are very well written, extremely enjoyable and I look forward to any additional writings you choose to share with us.

Adam.
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 30, 2008, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: "adradjool"
I too have wondered what came of Roma Galactica.  Your stories are very well written, extremely enjoyable and I look forward to any additional writings you choose to share with us.

Adam.

If you folks here are really interested in me putting up more of my Roman stuff, give a shout. Since I do need plenty of feedback to polish them to a high sheen.  :D



 Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Sotak246 on December 30, 2008, 08:59:50 PM
I would love to hear more, your stories were what really started me reading the posted fiction as I am very interested in the Romans.  You have done an incredible job,  more than once, I found myself reading some of my Roman history books and thinking how well you translated them into the future.

Mark
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 30, 2008, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: "Sotak246"
I would love to hear more, your stories were what really started me reading the posted fiction as I am very interested in the Romans.  You have done an incredible job,  more than once, I found myself reading some of my Roman history books and thinking how well you translated them into the future.

Mark

You three convinced me, I posted the next section of A Test of Wills: A Time of Fire.  :D



Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Hawkeye on December 31, 2008, 12:17:35 AM
I absolutely loved your stuff. Am looking forward to reading more.
Thanks a lot for your effort
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Kurt on December 31, 2008, 07:53:32 AM
Quote from: "Þórgrímr"
Quote from: "Kurt"
I have been reading a trilogy I recently found at a used book store, and it got me thinking about these stories.  The books are Procurator, New Barbarians, and Cry Republic by Krik Mitchell, and they are about a Roman Empire that survived to modern times in an alternate universe.  Interesting books, but they got me thinking about these stories, and I have to say, I think that this set of stories conveyed the background and "feeling" of a modern Rome just as well as the books I've been reading, if not better.  

To bad you stopped writing them.

Kurt

Kurt, I have read those books also. The only problem I had with the series was the unsatisfying end to Cry Republic. It felt like the author just got tired of the subject and stopped it suddenly to move on to something else. :cry:

I had the distinct impression that the author wasn't done yet, as if he intended more books in the series.  As you said, a disappointing end.  

Quote from: "Þórgrímr"
And thank you for your compliment in my portrayal of a space-faring Roma. I have put my very best effort into trying to make them seem as if they were real. As for the Test of Wills stuff, I never stopped writing the stories, I just stopped posting it on Aurora. The reason why is it seemed there was no feedback or interest anymore, so I stopped. I have actually finished A Test of Wills: A Time of Fire, it came in a little over 194K words and 373 pages, and am now working on A Test of Wills: The Time of Blood. Below is a segment from the new story:

Terra, Homeworld of the Roman Republic

<snip>

Oh, I don't know if it was a lack of interest, probably just complacency.  Which is just as bad in some ways.  

Kurt
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 09:21:33 AM
Since Kirk Mitchell continued to write, and never again wrote about his Roma, I think he just got sick of it. IIRC, the Procurator trilogy was a success for him.

And Kurt I must thank you for this thread. It gave the folks who wanted to read more about Roma a reason to say so, and it let me know there was still interst here.  :D



 Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: mavikfelna on December 31, 2008, 01:55:22 PM
The Roman stories are definitely some of the best stories here. Please keep writing AND posting them!

Thanks,
--Mav
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: "mavikfelna"
The Roman stories are definitely some of the best stories here. Please keep writing AND posting them!

Thanks,
--Mav

Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend, and I shall endeavor to persevere.  :D



 Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: welchbloke on December 31, 2008, 02:38:12 PM
I'd like to add my vote of thanks for restarting the Roman storyline.  I've found them hugly enjoyable to read.

Welchbloke
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 02:48:16 PM
Quote from: "welchbloke"
I'd like to add my vote of thanks for restarting the Roman storyline.  I've found them hugly enjoyable to read.

Welchbloke

Wow. I had no idea that it had a lot of folks watching it. My last few posts never seemed to catch anyones attention, and the lack of even one question of why I stopped from May till Kurt's post had me convinced there was no interest here. Well, I stand corrected.  :D



 Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: welchbloke on December 31, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
In my case it wasn't that I lost interest in the stories, I just couldn't run Aurora on my laptop and visiting the site would just frustrate me  :D
Now I've settled down into a new routine and I can run Aurora so please continue  :lol:
Welchbloke
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: "welchbloke"
In my case it wasn't that I lost interest in the stories, I just couldn't run Aurora on my laptop and visiting the site would just frustrate me  :D
Now I've settled down into a new routine and I can run Aurora so please continue  :D And I will continue posting. I think you all will like what I have. Haegan 2005 has been acting as my beta reader and he seems to like it. He keeps pestering me for new stuff all the time.  :D



 Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Erik L on December 31, 2008, 03:52:23 PM
I think you should self publish the stories if no one else wants to publish them. I've done all mine (all one of them) through lulu.com. And, if you purchase an ISBN, the books will show on Amazon and the like.
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
I think you should self publish the stories if no one else wants to publish them. I've done all mine (all one of them) through lulu.com. And, if you purchase an ISBN, the books will show on Amazon and the like.

Erik, I have been giving it serious consideration to using the E-Book self-publishing route. Any suggestions?



Cheers, Thor
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Erik L on December 31, 2008, 04:24:12 PM
E-book, all you really need is a website and some facility for taking orders. All the stuff I've done electronically has been PDF. I've not put anything out in any other format, so I'm not quite sure how that would work.

Lulu.com publishes bound material, so you can sit at the table, munch your breakfast and read the next chapter ;)
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
E-book, all you really need is a website and some facility for taking orders. All the stuff I've done electronically has been PDF. I've not put anything out in any other format, so I'm not quite sure how that would work.

Lulu.com publishes bound material, so you can sit at the table, munch your breakfast and read the next chapter ;)

Question, can you do both print and PDF sale on Lulu? In case someone would want to read it in a hand-held reader?



Cheers, Thor
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Erik L on December 31, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: "Þórgrímr"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
E-book, all you really need is a website and some facility for taking orders. All the stuff I've done electronically has been PDF. I've not put anything out in any other format, so I'm not quite sure how that would work.

Lulu.com publishes bound material, so you can sit at the table, munch your breakfast and read the next chapter ;)

Question, can you do both print and PDF sale on Lulu? In case someone would want to read it in a hand-held reader?



Cheers, Thor

Yes you can. I'm not doing pdf sales via Lulu since I'm looking at selling pdf's through RPGNow.com, and their commission is smaller if the product is exclusive to them.
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on December 31, 2008, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
Yes you can. I'm not doing pdf sales via Lulu since I'm looking at selling pdf's through RPGNow.com, and their commission is smaller if the product is exclusive to them.

The books would not do good on RPGNow! But BYS! may be a possibility later on. Got any links for Lulu?



Cheers, Thorgrimm
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Erik L on December 31, 2008, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: "Þórgrímr"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
Yes you can. I'm not doing pdf sales via Lulu since I'm looking at selling pdf's through RPGNow.com, and their commission is smaller if the product is exclusive to them.

The books would not do good on RPGNow! But BYS! may be a possibility later on. Got any links for Lulu?



Cheers, Thorgrimm

www.lulu.com (http://www.lulu.com) is the main page. For those interested, my storefront is http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=2980644 (http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=2980644)
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on January 01, 2009, 09:21:40 AM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
http://www.lulu.com is the main page. For those interested, my storefront is http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=2980644 (http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=2980644)

Erik, Thanks for the information. I will look into it.  :D



Cheers, Thor
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: kdstubbs on January 01, 2009, 10:31:52 AM
Þórgrímr

I can only say one thing:  Please don't stop posting your Roman stories.  They are some of the most original I have read in years.  And as an historian I have always appreciated your attention to detail in portraying the Roman culture.  Keep up the great work, and Kurt thanks for stimulating Borgrimr to continue writing.  

I too have been incredibly busy at work and have not had the time to visit the board as often as I like.  

Thanks to all the authors who have given me hours of reading pleasure.

Kevin
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on January 01, 2009, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: "kdstubbs"
Þórgrímr

I can only say one thing:  Please don't stop posting your Roman stories.  They are some of the most original I have read in years.  And as an historian I have always appreciated your attention to detail in portraying the Roman culture.  Keep up the great work, and Kurt thanks for stimulating Borgrimr to continue writing.  

I too have been incredibly busy at work and have not had the time to visit the board as often as I like.  

Thanks to all the authors who have given me hours of reading pleasure.

Kevin

Kevin, I most humbly thank you for your compliment. It means a lot to me.  :mrgreen:



 Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: kdstubbs on January 01, 2009, 02:26:25 PM
You should be able to zip it and post the entire thing just like kurt did for his Phoenix campaign and just like Steve did for the Rigellian Diaries.  Frankly, I would prefer to download your entire story and just read it straight through--but that is totally your choice.  Please post as you feel appropriate.

Kevin

By the way I like the Colonel Stubbs reference--I resemble that rank and name

Kevin Stubbs, Col USAF Ret
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on January 01, 2009, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: "kdstubbs"
You should be able to zip it and post the entire thing just like kurt did for his Phoenix campaign and just like Steve did for the Rigellian Diaries.  Frankly, I would prefer to download your entire story and just read it straight through--but that is totally your choice.  Please post as you feel appropriate.

Kevin

By the way I like the Colonel Stubbs reference--I resemble that rank and name

Kevin Stubbs, Col USAF Ret

Lol, thanks, I always like to honor friends by including them in my stories and I am glad you are ok with it.  :D  And I will continue to post here for the others to read.  :D



Cheers, Þórgrímr
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: ShadoCat on March 17, 2009, 03:52:52 PM
Quote from: "Þórgrímr"
Kevin, I most humbly thank you for your compliment. It means a lot to me.  :D And since there was a large portion of Aurora active posters who said the same thing as you, I will continue to post the Test of Wills saga. Be warned though, it is 194K words and 373 pages long for book one. So it may be a while before the whole thing is posted.  :mrgreen:

Cool!  

More Roman posts to read.  

I've been missing those.
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Sotak246 on March 22, 2009, 03:17:57 AM
Please do keep posting your stories.  Your romans were one of the things that hooked me when I first visited this site.
Title: Re: I miss the Romans
Post by: Þórgrímr on March 22, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: "Sotak246"
Please do keep posting your stories.  Your romans were one of the things that hooked me when I first visited this site.

Have no fear, I have not forgotten Roma, but Beyond the Stars! is my top priority right now. When we get the next phase of the playtest done I will take some time out for Roma.  :D



Cheers, Thor