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Offline David_H_Roarings (OP)

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Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« on: January 27, 2024, 10:46:04 PM »
Thought I'd share my latest design of carrier for ya'lls opinion

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Nimitz class Carrier (P)      48,000 tons       1,089 Crew       8,301.6 BP       TCS 960    TH 3,840    EM 7,140
4000 km/s      Armour 5-117       Shields 238-476       HTK 306      Sensors 110/110/0/0      DCR 69-14      PPV 92.4
Maint Life 4.20 Years     MSP 10,286    AFR 376%    IFR 5.2%    1YR 937    5YR 14,056    Max Repair 630 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 6,000 tons     Magazine 2,117 / 0   
Commander    Control Rating 6   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   FLG   PFC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 120    Morale Check Required   

M60 EP100 Magneto-plasma Drive  EP960.00 (4)    Power 3840.0    Fuel Use 20.41%    Signature 960.00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 3,160,100 Litres    Range 58.1 billion km (167 days at full power)
V5 S25 Epsilon S119 / R476 Shields (2)     Recharge Time 476 seconds (0.5 per second)

V5 8k Quad 15.0cm S0.75 C1 FUV Laser Turret (2x4)    Range 256,000km     TS: 8000 km/s     Power 24-4     RM 50,000 km    ROF 30       
V5 PD 16k Single 12cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (4x1)    Range 200,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 4-4     RM 50,000 km    ROF 5       
V3 CIWS-160 (1x8)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16,000 km/s     ROF 5       
V3 PD 16k Quad Gauss Cannon R400-17.00 Turret (5x16)    Range 40,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
V4 PD S1.2 Beam Fire Control R38-TS16000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 38,400 km   TS: 16,000 km/s    ECCM-1     74 48 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
V4 PD S6 Beam Fire Control R192-TS16000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 192,000 km   TS: 16,000 km/s    ECCM-1     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
V4 S4 Beam Fire Control R256-TS8000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 8,000 km/s    ECCM-1     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S1 P10.24 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R10-PB60 (2)     Total Power Output 20.5    Exp 30%
V6 S0.54 P4.06 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R4-PB60 (1)     Total Power Output 4.1    Exp 30%

V4 S3 ML (1)     Missile Size: 3    Rate of Fire 15
V3 S1 ML (1)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 10
V4 S4 ML (30.0%) (4)     Missile Size: 4    Rate of Fire 600
V4 R1 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC7-R1 (1)     Range 7.7m km    Resolution 1   ECCM-1
V4 R1 S0.6 Missile Fire Control FC13-R1 (50%) (1)     Range 13.3m km    Resolution 1   ECCM-1
V4 R20 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC20-R20 (50%) (1)     Range 20.8m km    Resolution 20   ECCM-1

V4 R1 S5 Active Search Sensor AS19-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 105     Range 19.2m km    MCR 1.7m km    Resolution 1
V4 R100 S20 Active Search Sensor AS177-R100 (50%) (1)     GPS 42000     Range 178m km    Resolution 100
V4 R20 S5 Active Search Sensor AS52-R20 (50%) (1)     GPS 2100     Range 52m km    Resolution 20
V4 S10 EM Sensor EM10-110 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  82.9m km
V4 S10 Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  82.9m km

Electronic Warfare Jammers:   Sensor 2    Fire Control 2    Missile 2   

Strike Group
20x Hawk MK6 Fighter   Speed: 12001 km/s    Size: 6

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Carrier for auto-assignment purposes


and the fighter it goes with

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Hawk MK6 class Fighter      300 tons       1 Crew       96.7 BP       TCS 6    TH 17    EM 0
12001 km/s      Armour 1-3       Shields 0-0       HTK 1      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0-0      PPV 3
Maint Life 14.94 Years     MSP 105    AFR 7%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 1    5YR 13    Max Repair 72 MSP
Magazine 20 / 0   
Ensign    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 5.7 days    Morale Check Required   

F1.8 EP250 Magneto-plasma Drive  EP72.00 (1)    Power 72    Fuel Use 1164.62%    Signature 17.28    Explosion 25%
Fuel Capacity 14,500 Litres    Range 0.75 billion km (17 hours at full power)

S4 BL E25 (5)     Missile Size: 4    Hangar Reload 100 minutes    MF Reload 16 hours
V4 R20 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC20-R20 (50%) (1)     Range 20.8m km    Resolution 20   ECCM-1

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction
This design is classed as a Fighter for auto-assignment purposes
 
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Re: Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2024, 11:33:05 PM »
But the Nimitz class is 100,000 tons
 
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Re: Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2024, 11:57:04 PM »
Pedantic much?

Volumetrically it's about 123,000... ish?
 

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Re: Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2024, 11:59:01 PM »
 As to the carrier. Yeah, it's fine.
 

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Re: Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2024, 12:10:51 AM »
It's hard to say for sure without knowing the missiles you're using on your carrier and fighters; but at a glance:

Given that they're missile fighters, I feel like I'd probably trade speed for more range - either a more efficient engine and/or bigger fuel tanks. Given that you've got a fire control with 20.8m km range,  I assume you're not firing at point blank. The goal is to fight as far away from the carrier as possible.

As for the carrier itself, given its fairly low speed, it's probably not getting into beam range of anything that doesn't want it to. I would switch out the lasers for for more gauss - you want maximum anti-missile power, not stopping power. I'd consider switching the 4 current engines for 2 engines that are twice as large for better fuel efficiency or tweak their power rating so you get the same efficiency for better speed.
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Re: Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2024, 02:44:58 AM »
I would personally ditch the lasers entirely and use that space for more fuel, ammo, MSP and maybe fighters. Those lasers won't be useful 95% of the time.
 

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Re: Tarren Acord Nimitz Carrier
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2024, 03:49:35 PM »
Quote from: QuakeIV link=topic=13466. msg168391#msg168391 date=1706419985
But the Nimitz class is 100,000 tons

that is displacement long tons, Aurora uses liquid hydrogen tons which is about 14 times as much volume.  So this carrier would be between 6 an 7 times the size of a modern day Nimitz Class

Quote from: AlStar link=topic=13466. msg168395#msg168395 date=1706422251
It's hard to say for sure without knowing the missiles you're using on your carrier and fighters; but at a glance:

Given that they're missile fighters, I feel like I'd probably trade speed for more range - either a more efficient engine and/or bigger fuel tanks.  Given that you've got a fire control with 20. 8m km range,  I assume you're not firing at point blank.  The goal is to fight as far away from the carrier as possible.

As for the carrier itself, given its fairly low speed, it's probably not getting into beam range of anything that doesn't want it to.  I would switch out the lasers for for more gauss - you want maximum anti-missile power, not stopping power.  I'd consider switching the 4 current engines for 2 engines that are twice as large for better fuel efficiency or tweak their power rating so you get the same efficiency for better speed.

The S4 Missiles are these ~

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Missile Size: 4.00 MSP  (10.000 Tons)     Warhead: 4.0    Radiation Damage: 4.0
Speed: 31,050 km/s     Fuel: 650     Flight Time: 11 minutes     Range: 21.2m km
Decoys: 1 ECM-3     ECCM-1     ATG: 32%     
Cost Per Missile: 5.525 
Chance to Hit: 1k km/s 409.9%   3k km/s 136.6%   5k km/s 82%   10k km/s 41%

An updated version of the fighters

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Hawk MK6a class Fighter (P)      300 tons       1 Crew       49.1 BP       TCS 6    TH 49    EM 0
8161 km/s      Armour 1-3       Shields 0-0       HTK 1      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0-0      PPV 3
Maint Life 22.64 Years     MSP 95    AFR 7%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 0    5YR 5    Max Repair 24.5 MSP
Magazine 20 / 0   
Ensign    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 5.7 days    Morale Check Required   

F1.8 EP170 Magneto-plasma Drive  EP48.96 (1)    Power 49.0    Fuel Use 444.07%    Signature 48.96    Explosion 17%
Fuel Capacity 14,500 Litres    Range 1.96 billion km (66 hours at full power)

S4 BL E25 (5)     Missile Size: 4    Hangar Reload 100 minutes    MF Reload 16 hours
V4 R20 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC20-R20 (50%) (1)     Range 20.8m km    Resolution 20   ECCM-1
S4 FAS Missile (5)    Speed: 31,050 km/s    End: 11.4m     Range: 21.2m km    WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 136/81/40

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction
This design is classed as a Fighter for auto-assignment purposes

As for the Carrier I do tend to put more lasers then needed on ships

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Nimitz class Carrier (P)      48,000 tons       1,062 Crew       8,188.1 BP       TCS 960    TH 3,840    EM 7,140
4000 km/s      Armour 5-117       Shields 238-476       HTK 307      Sensors 110/110/0/0      DCR 70-14      PPV 95.18
Maint Life 4.04 Years     MSP 13,910    AFR 369%    IFR 5.1%    1YR 1,367    5YR 20,506    Max Repair 960 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 6,000 tons     Magazine 2,117 / 0   
Commander    Control Rating 6   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   FLG   PFC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 120    Morale Check Required   

M120 EP100 Magneto-plasma Drive  EP1920.00 (2)    Power 3840.0    Fuel Use 14.43%    Signature 1920.00    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2,810,100 Litres    Range 73 billion km (211 days at full power)
V5 S25 Epsilon S119 / R476 Shields (2)     Recharge Time 476 seconds (0.5 per second)

V5 8k Twin 15.0cm S0.5 C0.2 FUV Laser Turret (1x2)    Range 256,000km     TS: 8000 km/s     Power 12-0.4     RM 50,000 km    ROF 150       
V5 PD 16k Single 12cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (4x1)    Range 200,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 4-4     RM 50,000 km    ROF 5       
V3 CIWS-160 (1x8)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16,000 km/s     ROF 5       
V3 PD 16k Quad Gauss Cannon R400-17.00 Turret (11x16)    Range 40,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
V4 PD S1.2 Beam Fire Control R38-TS16000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 38,400 km   TS: 16,000 km/s    ECCM-1     74 48 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
V4 PD S6 Beam Fire Control R192-TS16000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 192,000 km   TS: 16,000 km/s    ECCM-1     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
V4 S2 Beam Fire Control R256-TS8000 (SW) (50%) (1)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 8,000 km/s    ECCM-1     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S1 P10.24 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R10-PB60 (1)     Total Power Output 10.2    Exp 30%
V6 S0.78 P7.05 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R7-PB60 (1)     Total Power Output 7.1    Exp 30%

V4 S3 ML (1)     Missile Size: 3    Rate of Fire 15
V3 S1 ML (1)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 10
V4 S4 ML (30.0%) (4)     Missile Size: 4    Rate of Fire 600
V4 R1 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC7-R1 (1)     Range 7.7m km    Resolution 1   ECCM-1
V4 R1 S0.6 Missile Fire Control FC13-R1 (50%) (1)     Range 13.3m km    Resolution 1   ECCM-1
V4 R20 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC20-R20 (50%) (1)     Range 20.8m km    Resolution 20   ECCM-1
S1 AMM 8mk (60)    Speed: 55,200 km/s    End: 2.5m     Range: 8.3m km    WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 184/110/55
S3 AMM 13mk (19)    Speed: 36,533 km/s    End: 6.2m     Range: 13.5m km    WH: 2    Size: 3    TH: 121/73/36
S4 FAS Missile (500)    Speed: 31,050 km/s    End: 11.4m     Range: 21.2m km    WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 136/81/40

V4 R1 S5 Active Search Sensor AS19-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 105     Range 19.2m km    MCR 1.7m km    Resolution 1
V4 R100 S20 Active Search Sensor AS177-R100 (50%) (1)     GPS 42000     Range 178m km    Resolution 100
V4 R20 S5 Active Search Sensor AS52-R20 (50%) (1)     GPS 2100     Range 52m km    Resolution 20
V4 S10 EM Sensor EM10-110 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  82.9m km
V4 S10 Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  82.9m km

Electronic Warfare Jammers:   Sensor 2    Fire Control 2    Missile 2   

Strike Group
20x Hawk MK6 Fighter   Speed: 12001 km/s    Size: 6

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Carrier for auto-assignment purposes

Quote from: StarshipCactus link=topic=13466. msg168397#msg168397 date=1706431498
I would personally ditch the lasers entirely and use that space for more fuel, ammo, MSP and maybe fighters.  Those lasers won't be useful 95% of the time.

Additional fuel, ammo, and MSP are to be brought on support ships.  The carrier has a movement range of ~30bkm once separated from support ship elements(which most of the time probably wont be separated from)

I do plan on having these as screens for the carrier

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Tarawa class Destroyer      18,000 tons       482 Crew       3,401.1 BP       TCS 360    TH 2,160    EM 2,550
6000 km/s      Armour 4-61       Shields 85-425       HTK 142      Sensors 27/27/0/0      DCR 28-15      PPV 38.61
Maint Life 4.98 Years     MSP 3,150    AFR 144%    IFR 2.0%    1YR 212    5YR 3,173    Max Repair 360 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 2,000 tons     Magazine 88 / 0   
Commander    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 40    Morale Check Required   

M36 Ep 125 Magneto-plasma Drive  EP720.00 (3)    Power 2160    Fuel Use 46.04%    Signature 720    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 1,480,800 Litres    Range 32.2 billion km (62 days at full power)
V5 S20 Epsilon S85 / R425 Shields (1)     Recharge Time 425 seconds (0.2 per second)

V5 18.750cm C3 Far Ultraviolet Laser (1)    Range 256,000km     TS: 6,000 km/s     Power 9-3     RM 50,000 km    ROF 15       
V5 15.0cm S0.75 C1 Far Ultraviolet Laser (3)    Range 256,000km     TS: 6,000 km/s     Power 6-1     RM 50,000 km    ROF 30       
V5 PD 16k Single 10cm C3 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (1x1)    Range 150,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 50,000 km    ROF 5       
V3 CIWS-160 (1x8)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16,000 km/s     ROF 5       
V3 PD 16k Quad Gauss Cannon R400-17.00 Turret (2x16)    Range 40,000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
V4 PD S1.2 Beam Fire Control R38-TS16000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 38,400 km   TS: 16,000 km/s    ECCM-1     74 48 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
V4 PD S2.25 BFC R144-TS16000 (SW) (50%) (1)     Max Range: 144,000 km   TS: 16,000 km/s    ECCM-1     93 86 79 72 65 58 51 44 38 31
V4 S3 Beam Fire Control R256-TS6000 (50%) (1)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 6,000 km/s    ECCM-1     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S1.05 P9.64 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R10-PB40 (1)     Total Power Output 9.6    Exp 20%

V3 S1 ML (3)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 10
V4 S4 ML (30.0%) (3)     Missile Size: 4    Rate of Fire 600
V4 R1 S0.6 Missile Fire Control FC13-R1 (50%) (1)     Range 13.3m km    Resolution 1   ECCM-1
V4 R20 S1.2 Missile Fire Control FC50-R20 (50%) (1)     Range 51m km    Resolution 20   ECCM-1
S4 ASM 51mk (12)    Speed: 25,800 km/s    End: 33.3m     Range: 51.5m km    WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 113/68/34

V4 R20 S5 Active Search Sensor AS52-R20 (50%) (1)     GPS 2100     Range 52m km    Resolution 20
V4 R1 S2.5 Active Search Sensor AS13-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 53     Range 13.6m km    MCR 1.2m km    Resolution 1
V4 S2.5 Thermal Sensor TH2.50-27.50 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 27.5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  41.5m km
V4 S2.5 EM Sensor EM2.50-27.50 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 27.5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  41.5m km

Electronic Warfare Jammers:   Sensor 2    Fire Control 2    Missile 2   

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Carrier for auto-assignment purposes

they carry one of these

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Rapier MK6 class Cutter      2,000 tons       17 Crew       811.1 BP       TCS 40    TH 115    EM 0
12000 km/s      Armour 7-14       Shields 0-0       HTK 11      Sensors 6/0/0/0      DCR 1-5      PPV 6
Maint Life 5.26 Years     MSP 978    AFR 32%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 59    5YR 886    Max Repair 480 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 1.1 days    Morale Check Required   

M12 EP250 TR25 Magneto-plasma Drive  EP480.00 (1)    Power 480    Fuel Use 451.05%    Signature 115.20    Explosion 25%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 1 billion km (23 hours at full power)

V5 18.750cm C3 Far Ultraviolet Laser (1)    Range 256,000km     TS: 12,000 km/s     Power 9-3     RM 50,000 km    ROF 15       
V4 S3 Beam Fire Control R256-TS12000 (SW) (50%) (1)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 12,000 km/s    ECCM-1     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S0.45 P3.09 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R3-PB60 (1)     Total Power Output 3.1    Exp 30%

V4 R1 S0.1 Active Search Sensor AS2-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 3     Range 2.7m km    MCR 244k km    Resolution 1
V4 S0.6 Thermal Sensor TH0.6-6.6 (1)     Sensitivity 6.6     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  20.3m km

Electronic Warfare Jammers:   Fire Control 2   

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

I am still debating on running either a military collier or commercial.  If I feel like i need more fighters I'll either run them in pairs or design a CVL about half the size