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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1050 on: June 30, 2025, 11:02:24 PM »
And while we are speaking of officers getting older; when will we get the chance to research age increasing technology?
 

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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1051 on: Yesterday at 12:00:21 AM »
And while we are speaking of officers getting older; when will we get the chance to research age increasing technology?

Right after Steve changes the officer starting age to a number beginning with '3'.

In other words, heat death of the universe.  :(
 

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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1052 on: Yesterday at 02:41:37 AM »
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In further as it stands one can build a 'mothball hangar' that would normally have an insane maintenance cost but can considerably cut down on the maintenance cost of other ships sitting in port, using one designed for the ship above we have:
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In your example, you build a hangar that costs ~4k bp in order to save ~1.5k MSP per year, while requiring an additional 4,123 tons of maintenance capacity.
Assuming you need to build two maintenance facilities (60BP each) to provide the extra capacity, and with MSP costing 0.25 BP each, your annual savings represents a rate of return on your investment of ~9.1% while occupying 100k workers.

You also have an up-front cost of the shipyard needed to build that carrier (~11k bp, depending on your tech level), and the ongoing workforce that yard requires (almost 10m workers).
You are going to have to make (and use) a lot of these carriers and/or wait a very long time to recoup the cost of that yard.

There are simpler ways to get far better returns in the game.
For example, suppose instead of building that shipyard you build financial centers of equivalent cost.
Let's say 90 fincens. Costs 10.8k bp, and 10.8k corbomite.
Uses only 4.5m workers. Less than half what the yard needs.
Returns annual income equal to 27 times your "wealth per million workers" tech level.
Even if you are still at the starting tech level (100 per million workers per year), and have no wealth creation bonus from your governor or sector, that's 2.7kbp per year.
So a bare minimum rate of return of 25%, using half as many workers.
With a couple tech levels and a modest governor bonus, it's not hard to be making your investment back in two years or less.

I think there's an argument for endgame gallicite starvation scenarios (esp with high-speed doctrines) for the cheapest "PDC" that is just a ton of hangar bays, just to convert some gallicite usage into not-gallicite usage, wealth costs be damned.

Also, ships in hangars still count towards maintenance tonnage?

EDIT: They don't, you were talking about the extra size of the "yard."

I think at early to mid game this is definitely NOT worth it, but again once you start hitting end-game techs if you haven't managed to spool up gallicite mining for whatever reason this can help mitigate gallicite consumption a little (you typically have near infinite duranium unless your ships are all giant armor bricks and even then neutronium bottlenecks first?). My ship of only a bit bigger size is 40k BP for 45kt, so a hangar that can store it is 6k BP and i'd save 9k MSP per year or about 900 gallicite per year in MSP cost, if i'm calculating this correctly.

My mining productivity is lagging a bit (50/yr) so that's 18 mines at 1x productivity, which, if automated, costs 4320 BP. For the sake of argument let's say it averages out at 1x between accessibility, gov bonus, and transportation latency/throughput.

Paying an extra 50% to conserve the same amount of minerals with much less micro (and I can go even cheaper on the PDC if necessary) isn't the worst deal. (Even if my numbers are off, gah. closer to 8k MSP and 800 gallicite which is 16 mines)
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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1053 on: Yesterday at 04:26:34 AM »
And while we are speaking of officers getting older; when will we get the chance to research age increasing technology?

Right after Steve changes the officer starting age to a number beginning with '3'.

In other words, heat death of the universe.  :(

https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13463.msg173845#msg173845

:)
 
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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1054 on: Yesterday at 05:38:52 AM »
And while we are speaking of officers getting older; when will we get the chance to research age increasing technology?

Right after Steve changes the officer starting age to a number beginning with '3'.

In other words, heat death of the universe.  :(

https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13463.msg173845#msg173845

:)

Damn you Steve, the universe is dead now  :'(
 
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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1055 on: Yesterday at 07:03:43 AM »
And while we are speaking of officers getting older; when will we get the chance to research age increasing technology?

Right after Steve changes the officer starting age to a number beginning with '3'.

In other  words, heat death of the universe.  :(

https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13463.msg173845#msg173845

:)

Damn you Steve, the universe is dead now  :'(

More free time to play Aurora!!   ;D
 
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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1056 on: Yesterday at 02:17:04 PM »
Wait, there's TWO "Steve"s in this end of the thread! Whom are you damning?

And even if we can change "starting age" does that mean commanders still get old at "the same age" or at "the same time from graduation"?
 

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Re: Suggestions Thread for v2.4.0
« Reply #1057 on: Yesterday at 03:32:27 PM »
Just on officers. Is it possible to get a few more stations for them, or maybe increase the number of positions in the current modules.
I tend to really like having detailed historys on my officers so i like to see them rising through the ranks.
more slots for positions would allow this. I usally end up just adding all the modules to my ships now just to make the positions available. I also make sure to have academies on every colony as i like to see officers from different homeworlds.
 
Purly for roleplaying but sure isnt that the aim of the game ha. 

Perhaps it could be based on tonnage. For example a 500 ton fighter has 1 pilot but a 1000T FAC has Caption a Gunner and Helmans and so on.

I dont know how the existing modules are programed so what i say above is only for a conversation purposes really. If it was easiler to do something else im all for it.