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GDI Game Showcase
« on: January 31, 2024, 12:23:50 PM »
I have been playing a Command and Conquer GDI themed game for about 10 months sporadically in 2023 until work put a stop to it. It was a very slow game with 25% research and 10% survey speed that lasted I think 150 years. It was sadly also rather uneventful in comparison to most other games I had. Only 1 ground battle and 1 space encounter, otherwise an economy game.(I also didn't start NOD as an NPR, so there was really no opposition)
Anyway, I am putting it to rest so I can start a new game on new version, inspired by recent Rogue Trader RPG space battles. :) For that I am putting up my designs here, so that at least something is left behind from that time.

The final naval organization structure:


Note that the whole fleet was currently stored in 4 of 5 giant hangar orbitals on the moon, who, -no matter what the wrong maintenance life calculation says-, had about 120 years maintenance life, meaning they cost less than 20 MSP per 5 days in comparison to ~300 MSP which their contents would normally cost. They are however themselves costly to develop.
They use the lore Philadelphia station example from GDI lore.


The final army elements:


Kodiak Destroyer
Now the real designs, starting with the famous Kodiak destroyer, moved into space. The first is the listing at first conception, the second at the end of the game.

Those were as system defense ships with only 1-2 systems maximum intended deployment range. Focus obviously on SRM density (here imagined as "artillery shells" as I often do) since this is the patented "obliterate all" solution against up to +3TL and much greater attacker fleet masses.

Orca Gunship
In addition, mostly due to RP reasons, Sol system defense was aided by 24 Orcas, which are particle beam FACs that pretty much only find their niche against civil ships and rare, lower tech beam ships.


Magellan Survey Frigate
Though initial Sol survey was done by some fighter factory built vessels, the interstellar survey mission followed the absolute opposite philosophy: Large multi-role long range extended deployment frigate ships. The Star Trek adventure ship idea.


Condor Scout Plane
Since Aurora C# sensor mechanics have shifted so that many smaller sensors are better in getting eyes than one big one like in VB6, I now usually run some scout plane designs that can keep locks on enemies or in this case, safely approach suspicious oxygen planets before the costly capital ship comes close.


Phoenix Fighter
Also mainly for system defense, but eventually intended for carrier usage, your usual SRM armed strikefighter.


Ampere Frigate + Angström Light Frigate
Finally, the actual navy, meant for interstellar deployment. However, at game end only consisted of 8 beam escorts/ jump point siege ships and 2 forward fleet scouts/'no-missile ships tactical punishers'. They only come at highest TL, so there is only one design each.


The real strategy which I had tried in two games to come to fruition now was to have lots of beam defense capacity for escorts and territory defense, and behind that thick wall of pikes, the real cruisers, which should have held large artillery cannons for long range missile/"artillery" strikes. ...I never seem to get there, so, next game, I am starting with large cruisers right away.


Sol also had some quite normal non-thematic orbitals:
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The token GDI orbital Ion Cannon was never realized since in Aurora C#, beam defense is so much more efficient from ground up than be left in orbit. However, next game, I am thinking of expanding on the orbital hangar idea and have lots of smaller orbitals stored in there for dispense in case of attack. That would let me expand defense independently of MSP capacity, so ground or orbital does not matter as much.

Eventually I also wanted a GDI super mammoth tank, but it never came to that. :P
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Now of to the first WH40k Aurora game in 10 years. 8)
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Re: GDI Game Showcase
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2024, 10:38:01 AM »
awesome work. I've thought about doing a GDI playthrough a couple times before. Out of curiousity did you use commercial or military hangers on the Philadelphia?
 

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Re: GDI Game Showcase
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2024, 11:29:35 AM »
Those are military hangars, which makes it really expensive to get the full size shipyard. I vaguely remember that some time ago someone said that there is a way to have the maintenance clock stop and still only use commercial hangars. I will test in my new game how that can be.
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Re: GDI Game Showcase
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2024, 05:46:36 PM »
Those are military hangars, which makes it really expensive to get the full size shipyard. I vaguely remember that some time ago someone said that there is a way to have the maintenance clock stop and still only use commercial hangars. I will test in my new game how that can be.
Combine commercial hangers with maintenance modules on a ship
 
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Re: GDI Game Showcase
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2024, 04:04:40 AM »
Combine commercial hangers with maintenance modules on a ship
Yes, but does that still use MSP from the docked ship or carrier? If so, that would be useless for the intended purpose of saving on maintenance, which military hangars achieve.

If they can't do that, I think the c-hangar + m-module is still an interesting choice for a 'fleet train' concept if you will. A giant low burn rate fuel economic civil deployment carrier, that gets your fleet to the action at practically no cost. It would enable to equip all your military ships with high burn rate inefficient engines that you'd never consider otherwise.
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Re: GDI Game Showcase
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2024, 05:08:34 AM »
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Combine commercial hangers with maintenance modules on a ship
Yes, but does that still use MSP from the docked ship or carrier? If so, that would be useless for the intended purpose of saving on maintenance, which military hangars achieve.
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I did this for what I called patrol carriers, able to station FAC just everywhere.
Deployment clock gets paused, Using MSP by normal rules - population first, then ship, transporter vessels last.

Responding to OP, that are interesting designs and a nice way to present them.  I will probably borrow some ideas there.
 

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Re: GDI Game Showcase
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2024, 09:55:07 AM »
Responding to OP, that are interesting designs and a nice way to present them.  I will probably borrow some ideas there.
Feel free to do that. This style emerged way back in this thread. Aurora is a sandbox, so any component can be anything you want. CIWS can be shields. Shields can be "charged armor" or even "prayer charges", whatever the setting needs.
...Currently I am even thinking about turning 1k-2.5kt boats into suicide torpedoes, because 99MSP missiles are probably not large enough for what I want this game. It would also solve the boarding-torpedo gap, but I guess otherwise it is a real stretch this time here.
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