Game discussion

[Panopticon]

should be read "Texas and parts East" or something similar.

[Destra]

Sorry I'm currently away from my computer as its about 600km away at the moment, I will try to have the empire update put online asap when I get home, so probably sunday or monday ill have it done at the latest just been a bit busy :p

[Vynadan (OP)]

No biggy, it's just the map. Doesn't change anything about the actual game.
Won't be able to update the map until next weekend anyway as I'll be 100km away from my desktop, too. =)

[Vynadan (OP)]

Updated the world map as per request of shadenight.
Shadowveil location is based on what ardem mentioned to me, as they still don't have an introduction post.

Should I insert / mark the League nations?

[Destra]

Ya sorry i am slowly working on it but ive not been in a really good fiction writing mood (and sick for a week doesnt help much),  currently working on the year public update for ya guys.

[Destra]

At the moment it is too late for me to do the writeup and i wont be able to get to it till afternoon tomorrow, just wanted to let you all know to expect it tomorrow afternoon

[Vynadan (OP)]

I've updated the map again, though I have some questions (to ardem, mostly):

Whole of Russia to SV? (-> currently coloured so)

League:
- 2043 mentions Israel, France and Spain
- 2044 mentions Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan
Also, all of Korea, or North / South? (-> coloured neither in current version)
Your post in the map thread didn't mention those countries and I'm not sure what to do about Korea.
Also, they're all just enclaves with the fraction of the original country's size, so should I colour them fully or do you want to specify enclave locations? (-> currently fully coloured)

[ardem]

Whole of Russia was correct

2043-2044 you are correct forgot to include them in the list I gave you, I am glad someone is on the ball. All of Korea they are one unit now

Thanks for your work on this greatly appreciated.

[Vynadan (OP)]

Updated again.

[Panopticon]

Unless I fail at map reading it appears the AD is not marked as controlling Texas, but I do.

[Vynadan (OP)]

o_O True. No idea how I missed that, but it's added now. Also added Iraq to League

[shadenight123]

i suppose for the "non tn" nation, since it's a vote and all, it should be conducted through a poll, with garancy of anonymous voting. once every tn nation has voted, we look the result.
if it's a no or a yes.
otherwise it's easy to bring forth pressure to change one's vote for another, before the time comes.
to say, the veil voted against. since we all now know that, if somebody were to be of contrary belief, attriction would eventually be born.
and intimidation while not proven could be used by the non tn nations to declare the vote unacceptable in case of their defeat.
since neo italy has declared complete neutrality on other states sovereignity and facts, we could have neo italians take care of votes being kept anonymous. until everyone has voted, and then to proceed to the scrutiny.
this is just to say that publicly announcing one vote isn't a problem, problem is if everyone is obliged to do so.

[Vynadan (OP)]

i suppose for the "non tn" nation, since it's a vote and all, it should be conducted through a poll, with garancy of anonymous voting. once every tn nation has voted, we look the result.
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to say, the veil voted against. since we all now know that, if somebody were to be of contrary belief, attriction would eventually be born.
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and intimidation while not proven could be used by the non tn nations to declare the vote unacceptable in case of their defeat.

I'm all for posts in the Chicxulub Crater Debates thread. How is all that not normal politics?

[shadenight123]

the fact is that voting matters are conducted in anonymous.
to say, when the ONU makes a vote, everyone first presses the button, THEN the results are displayed.
this is to avoid having Russia intimidate a country like iceland (making example) by making russia vote first "against" and then those who do not have to choose attriction or bowing.
if the god emperor of mankind votes against, you vote against.
if you don't know his vote at the beginning, you are free to vote what you wish blessing ignorance.
every vote is made with anonymity.
or it's not a vote, it's a charade.

[Vynadan (OP)]

I disagree, but that might just come from my rebellious nature and weird understanding of votes I must admit that I have no idea how the UNO votes (I guess that's what you mean by ONU ), but in regards to politicial votes between nations, I'd say that you must know who voted for what to better judge how much weight each vote has.

Yeah, weighting votes goes against the more strict definitions of democratic votes, but it's international politics and not democracy xD