Unrest on Colony

[roug (OP)]

How is the unrest thing working?
I have 490m pop on Luna unrest is rising there, but how to turn Luna into a "core" world?
I dont need any soldiers on Earth (got 1000 there) but there are no unrest there. i got 5000 on Luna but Luna also got its own ground troop complex so i can just make new soldiers there.

[CharonJr]

If they are unhappy about lack of protection you need military ships (with weapons) in the system. Ground units will just suppress the unrest, protection removes the reason for it.

"PPV: Planetary Protection Value. The value of this class in placating colonists concerned about military protection"

E.g. each Carronade provides 6 PPV for this early game ship.

Blucher class Orbital Defence Monitor      2 295 tons       82 Crew       116.6 BP       TCS 46    TH 25    EM 0
544 km/s      Armour 1-15       Shields 0-0       HTK 22      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 30
Maint Life 5.04 Years     MSP 31    AFR 42%    IFR 0.6%    1YR 2    5YR 31    Max Repair 20 MSP
Fregattankapitan    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP25.00 (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 141.42%    Signature 25    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 50 000 Litres    Range 2.8 billion km (58 days at full power)

20 cm C1 Plasma Carronade (5)    Range 32 000km     TS: 1 250 km/s     Power 10-1     RM 10 000 km    ROF 50       
Beam Fire Control R32-TS1250 (1)     Max Range: 32 000 km   TS: 1 250 km/s     21 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pressurised Water Reactor R1 (5)     Total Power Output 5    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[roug (OP)]

Nice thanks for your help!

[skoormit]

If they are unhappy about lack of protection you need military ships (with weapons) in the system. Ground units will just suppress the unrest, protection removes the reason for it.

"PPV: Planetary Protection Value. The value of this class in placating colonists concerned about military protection"

E.g. each Carronade provides 6 PPV for this early game ship.

Blucher class Orbital Defence Monitor      2 295 tons       82 Crew       116.6 BP       TCS 46    TH 25    EM 0
544 km/s      Armour 1-15       Shields 0-0       HTK 22      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 30
Maint Life 5.04 Years     MSP 31    AFR 42%    IFR 0.6%    1YR 2    5YR 31    Max Repair 20 MSP
Fregattankapitan    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP25.00 (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 141.42%    Signature 25    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 50 000 Litres    Range 2.8 billion km (58 days at full power)

20 cm C1 Plasma Carronade (5)    Range 32 000km     TS: 1 250 km/s     Power 10-1     RM 10 000 km    ROF 50       
Beam Fire Control R32-TS1250 (1)     Max Range: 32 000 km   TS: 1 250 km/s     21 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pressurised Water Reactor R1 (5)     Total Power Output 5    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

If all you want is cheap PPV, you can use fighters, which means you don't need a shipyard.

This is 6 PPV for 21.5BP using base technology:

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PPV6 class Patrol Vessel      454 tons       21 Crew       21.5 BP       TCS 9    TH 10    EM 0
1057 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 3      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 6
Maint Life 2.88 Years     MSP 2    AFR 16%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 0    5YR 5    Max Repair 6 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Pulse Engine  EP9.60 (1)    Power 9.6    Fuel Use 230.94%    Signature 9.6    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,000 Litres    Range 0.2 billion km (45 hours at full power)

10cm C1 Infrared Laser (2)    Range 5,000km     TS: 1,250 km/s     Power 3-1     RM 10,000 km    ROF 15       
BFC-Minimus (1)     Max Range: 5,000 km   TS: 1,250 km/s     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pebble Bed Reactor 2.0 (1)     Total Power Output 2    Exp 5%

Of course, these are worthless in a fight. You can spend more for a real BFC, if you like.

[SpikeTheHobbitMage]

If they are unhappy about lack of protection you need military ships (with weapons) in the system. Ground units will just suppress the unrest, protection removes the reason for it.

"PPV: Planetary Protection Value. The value of this class in placating colonists concerned about military protection"

E.g. each Carronade provides 6 PPV for this early game ship.

Blucher class Orbital Defence Monitor      2 295 tons       82 Crew       116.6 BP       TCS 46    TH 25    EM 0
544 km/s      Armour 1-15       Shields 0-0       HTK 22      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 30
Maint Life 5.04 Years     MSP 31    AFR 42%    IFR 0.6%    1YR 2    5YR 31    Max Repair 20 MSP
Fregattankapitan    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP25.00 (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 141.42%    Signature 25    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 50 000 Litres    Range 2.8 billion km (58 days at full power)

20 cm C1 Plasma Carronade (5)    Range 32 000km     TS: 1 250 km/s     Power 10-1     RM 10 000 km    ROF 50       
Beam Fire Control R32-TS1250 (1)     Max Range: 32 000 km   TS: 1 250 km/s     21 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pressurised Water Reactor R1 (5)     Total Power Output 5    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

If all you want is cheap PPV, you can use fighters, which means you don't need a shipyard.

This is 6 PPV for 21.5BP using base technology:

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PPV6 class Patrol Vessel      454 tons       21 Crew       21.5 BP       TCS 9    TH 10    EM 0
1057 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 3      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 6
Maint Life 2.88 Years     MSP 2    AFR 16%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 0    5YR 5    Max Repair 6 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Pulse Engine  EP9.60 (1)    Power 9.6    Fuel Use 230.94%    Signature 9.6    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,000 Litres    Range 0.2 billion km (45 hours at full power)

10cm C1 Infrared Laser (2)    Range 5,000km     TS: 1,250 km/s     Power 3-1     RM 10,000 km    ROF 15       
BFC-Minimus (1)     Max Range: 5,000 km   TS: 1,250 km/s     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pebble Bed Reactor 2.0 (1)     Total Power Output 2    Exp 5%

Of course, these are worthless in a fight. You can spend more for a real BFC, if you like.

Unfortunately not.  A full sized BFC is simply too big and underpowered at that tech level.

[Father Tim]

How is the unrest thing working?
I have 490m pop on Luna unrest is rising there, but how to turn Luna into a "core" world?
I dont need any soldiers on Earth (got 1000 there) but there are no unrest there. i got 5000 on Luna but Luna also got its own ground troop complex so i can just make new soldiers there.

The answer is why is your unrest increasing?  Is due to lack of PPV?  Put some units in orbit with weapons on them.  (PPV is determined solely by tonnage of weapons -- civilians don't care about armour or sensors or fire control or even about tech level.  One big barrel is just as good as any other.)

Is it due to overcrowding life support?  Ship in some infrastructure, quick.  (Or ship out some people.)

Is it due to un(der)employment?  Create (or import) some more industry.

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Regardless of the source of the unrest, masses of ground troops will suppress it.  The effect is based on number of units, not combat strength, so use many infantry instead of a few big STO or heavy bombardment units.

[roug (OP)]

The situasion is solved, i had a lot of groundunits,  but i always needed to build more, i  just  got my first destroyers, so  no more problems.