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Online Steve Walmsley (OP)

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Cataclysm Campaign
« on: December 13, 2006, 06:32:59 PM »
I am going to start a third test campaign. Although I am enjoying the Preservation Campaign, I need to test some areas of the game that won't be available in that campaign for a long time due to its small scale. Therefore, I am going to start a new campaign with a much larger starting population and slightly higher tech. I am also going to start with a single race and use additional races as they are added by the program's system generation.

The background for this new campaign is as follows:

Cataclysm Campaign

In 2011, the newly deployed James Webb space telescope detects a vast wave of small comets and other cosmic debris heading toward the inner solar system. Amid the panic that quickly ensues, many theories for the appearance of the comets are proposed, including alien attack and a 21st century version of the Flood. However, the theory that quickly gains the most credence among the scientific community is that a large object must have passed through the Oort cloud fifty years previously and its gravity sent the comets toward the sun. With only an estimated five years before the first of the comets reaches Earth
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 09:15:55 PM »
Gamma R300/21 Shields
Shield Strength: 3
Recharge Rate: 3 Recharge Time: 300 seconds
Cost: 6 Crew: 3 Daily Fuel Cost while Active: 21
Materials Required: 1.5x Duranium 2.25x Corbomite 2.25x Boronide

So a ship with 20 HS worth of shields would consume 420 liters of fuel per day?  42,000 per 100 days?  Ouch.  That is over 300 tons of Sorium per year.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 06:44:52 AM »
Quote from: "Michael Sandy"
Gamma R300/21 Shields
Shield Strength: 3
Recharge Rate: 3 Recharge Time: 300 seconds
Cost: 6 Crew: 3 Daily Fuel Cost while Active: 21
Materials Required: 1.5x Duranium 2.25x Corbomite 2.25x Boronide

So a ship with 20 HS worth of shields would consume 420 liters of fuel per day?  42,000 per 100 days?  Ouch.  That is over 300 tons of Sorium per year.

Very true. Which is why using your shields for a whole year is a Bad Idea :)

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 07:25:09 AM »
Starting Fleet

Battle Fleet
2x Enterprise class Missile Cruiser: Enterprise, Yorktown
2x Nelson class Cruiser: Nelson, Somerville
2x Richelieu class Escort: Richelieu, Suffren
1x Santa Maria class Jump Cruiser: Santa Maria

Survey Command
1x Lexington class Survey Cruiser: Lexington
2x Essex class Jump Tender: Essex, Intrepid
4x Fletcher class Survey Ship: Fletcher, Turner, Sprague, Mahan
4x Spruance class Survey Ship: Spruance, Burke, Sherman, Callaghan

Terraforming Command
3x Melbourne class Terraformer

Cargo Fleet
1x Santa Maria Jump Cruiser: Santisima Trinidad
3x Portland class Freighter

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 05:58:37 PM »
The most powerful battleship of its era bestows its name on a trash hauler?  I think the Spanish are about to revolt.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 09:58:35 PM »
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The most powerful battleship of its era bestows its name on a trash hauler?  I think the Spanish are about to revolt.


Father Tim, are you thinking of the Santisima Trinidad? The 120 gun Ship of the Line the Brits sank at Trafalgar?

IIRC, the Santa Maria was just a wee lil carrack Columbus had in his exploratory expedition.




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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2006, 01:54:09 AM »
Oops, did the math wrong on the Sorium usage.  20 shields active all year would use up about 151 tons of Sorium.  Spendy, but comparable to Duranium expenditures for Supply in previous generations.

Interesting that Father Tim believes that the ships without which the fleet would not move are mere "trash haulers".  The ship which is first into any system is no mere second class ship.

Jump Cruisers are the only ships that can proceed independantly.  If a discovery is made that requires a change in deployment, it is the Captain of the Jump Cruiser who pretty much decides things.

In the Nemesis Campaign, when the discovery of Thebes prompted a diversion of the Heracleia bound colony fleet, it required more than anything for the Jump Cruiser to be the one who changed the orders.

(edit)  By definition, practically, the Jump Cruiser will always be the largest ship in a particular mobile fleet.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2006, 03:48:46 PM »
Aye.  It makes sense to name the the Jump Cruisers after famous ships of exploration - Matthew, Golden Hind, even Beagle - but to demote the Santisima Trinidad to an unarmed support ship when Nelson gets an entire class of heavily-armed cruisers named after him?
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2006, 08:06:13 AM »
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Aye.  It makes sense to name the the Jump Cruisers after famous ships of exploration - Matthew, Golden Hind, even Beagle - but to demote the Santisima Trinidad to an unarmed support ship when Nelson gets an entire class of heavily-armed cruisers named after him?

I am sure the fact I am English rather than Spanish has nothing to do with it :)  

I'll try and come up with something more appropriate then and save the Santisima Trinidad for a warship.

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2006, 08:52:27 PM »
Famous Ships of Exploration:
unnamed drakkar - Viiking voyages to Iceland, Greenland, & North America
Nina (originally Santa Clara), Pinta, and Santa Maria (also called La Gallega) - Colombus, Caribbean
Matthew - John Cabot, Newfoundland & Nova Scotia
Sao Gabriel - Vasco de Gama, Cape of Good Hope to India
La Dauphine - Giovanni da Verrazano, US East Coast
Victoria, Concepcion, San Antonio, Santiago, Trinidad - Ferdinand Magellan, circumnavigation.
La Grande Hermine, La Petite Hermine, L'Emerillon - Jacques Cartier, Gulf of Saint Lawrence
Tiger - Sir Walter Raleigh, Virgina & the Carolinas
Golden Hind (originally Pelican) - Sir Francis Drake, circumnavigation
Triumph - Martin Frobisher, Frobisher Bay & Canada's north atlantic coast
Squirrel, Delight - Sir Humprey Gilbert, Newfoundland
D'Halve Maen - Henry Hudson, Hudson River
Eendracht - Jacques La Maire, Cape Horn
Centurion (originally Eagle) - George Anson, West coast of south & central america, China, Macao, Phillippines
Endeavour, (originally Earl of Pembroke, later La Liberte) - James Cook, Cook Islands, New Zealand, Australia, Falkland Islands
Truelove - Franklin, Arctic Ocean
Resolution (formerly Drake, Marquis of Granby), Adventure, Discovery - James Cook, Antarctica & Arctic Ocean
La Boudeuse, Etoile - Louis Antoine de Bougainville, circumnavigation
Turtle - David & Ezra Bushnell, first military submarine
La Boussole  (originally Le Portefaix), L'Astrolabe - Comte de la Perouse, south pacific
Alexander - Arthur Phillip, Sydney Bay
La Recherche - La Chevalier d'Entrecasteaux, Tasmania & Australia
Constitution - ???, circumnavigation
L'Uranie (originally La Ciotat) - Louis-Claude de Freycinet, Australia & the south seas
L'Astrolabe (originally Coquille) - Jules Dumont D'Urville, South magnetic pole
Beagle - Charles Darwin, circumnavigation
James Watt - first steamship entered in Lloyd's Registry of Shipping
Erebus, Terror - James Clark Ross, Antarctica & Arctic Ocean
Agamemnon, Niagara - together laid the first transatlantic telegraph cable
Fram - Fridtjof Nansen, North Pole; Roald Amundsen, South Pole
Goa - Roald Amundsen, North Pole
Gronland - German North Polar Expedition
Hansteen - Norweigian Coastal Survey
Hydro-Dome IV - Alexander Graham Bell, world's first true hydrofoil
Nautilus - Captain Nemo #:-], First nuclear-powered vessel, Geographic Noth Pole
Gypsy Moth IV - Francis Chichester, solo circumnavigation
Glomar Explorer - CIA, nuclear submarine recovery
Healy - US Navy, Arctic & Antarctic oceans
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2006, 07:01:48 AM »
Quote from: "Father Tim"
Famous Ships of Exploration:

Thanks for the list. I will use these in the campaign. The second Santa Maria is now the Nina

Steve
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2006, 10:17:45 AM »
Just a thought -

With the new fuel rules, how come missiles don't need any fuel? (ie have no sorium requirement for construction)

  Are you assuming some other power source?



ps - this thread should be moved to te new "Cataclysm Campaign" forum :-)
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2006, 10:39:45 AM »
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Just a thought -

With the new fuel rules, how come missiles don't need any fuel? (ie have no sorium requirement for construction)
Are you assuming some other power source?
ps - this thread should be moved to te new "Cataclysm Campaign" forum :-)

That's a very good point regarding the missiles. I probably should change the gallicite requirement to a mixture of gallicite and sorium

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2006, 04:12:25 PM »
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Quote from: "Randy"
Just a thought -

With the new fuel rules, how come missiles don't need any fuel? (ie have no sorium requirement for construction)
Are you assuming some other power source?
ps - this thread should be moved to te new "Cataclysm Campaign" forum :-)
That's a very good point regarding the missiles. I probably should change the gallicite requirement to a mixture of gallicite and sorium

Steve


In that case, what about fighters.  Currently they use no sorium.  Do you want to have them use fuel out of the ships tanks, or would you rather have the gallicite cost be changed to a mix of gallicite and sorium.

Brian
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2006, 08:17:05 AM »
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In that case, what about fighters.  Currently they use no sorium.  Do you want to have them use fuel out of the ships tanks, or would you rather have the gallicite cost be changed to a mix of gallicite and sorium.
Brian

Fighters use 250 Litres of Sorium every time they are launched. This does not take into account range or length of flight but it is straightforward. At some point I will probably make this more accurate by removing an amount of sorium from the ship tanks appropriate to the endurance of the fighter and returning any remaining fuel when the fighter lands. I haven't touched fighters though for several versions and I hope the current campaign will allow me to play around with fighters properly.

Steve
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