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Posted by: Droll
« on: November 04, 2020, 04:21:47 PM »

Quote from: Norm49 on November 04, 2020, 04:09:49 PM
The only modification need i thing will be to use ammunition for rail gun, gust gun . For plasma comrade maybe plasma tank and a new resource, the plasma that can be harvested by ship to add "munition" during a log deployment far form home base.

I don't think DB edits alone will suffice for a major mechanical change like that. You could try to jury rig a missile launcher to perhaps behave like a gun by DBing a missile to be very cheap and small ammo. Same with plasma I suppose. However doing this means you are stuck with the missile damage pattern.
Posted by: Norm49
« on: November 04, 2020, 04:09:49 PM »

The only modification need i thing will be to use ammunition for rail gun, gust gun . For plasma comrade maybe plasma tank and a new resource, the plasma that can be harvested by ship to add "munition" during a log deployment far form home base.
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: November 04, 2020, 12:42:49 PM »

Quote from: Droll on November 03, 2020, 05:44:39 PM
Yeah its a balance consideration. However the great thing about aurora for me at least is that it need not be balanced for it to be very fun. That is why I really appreciate that the DB remains open despite the frakkery that it can result in bug-wise. It allows me to make my own fun.

Edit: Did this reply get modded for profanity? My f-word seems to have changed to BSG speak.

Excuse me, this is a Christian server! Praise the Lords of Kobol.

Serious answer: I'm pretty sure there is an automatic filter of some sort; similar to the link filter.
Posted by: TallTroll
« on: November 04, 2020, 12:01:15 PM »

>> Your energy armed ships should probably be about as fast as the enemy ships they are shooting at, so putting anti-ship weapons in turrets is unnecessary

Conversely, when I do a missile heavy game, I often let my missile ships be pretty slow (lots of space in the magazines and launchers), and let mt beam ships keep the same fleet speed, and use beam turrets to preserve the tracking speed. You do need a bit of a tech advantage I find though, because if your opponent has too much of an advantage, you won't be able to hit them or run from them
Posted by: Droll
« on: November 03, 2020, 05:44:39 PM »

Yeah its a balance consideration. However the great thing about aurora for me at least is that it need not be balanced for it to be very fun. That is why I really appreciate that the DB remains open despite the frakkery that it can result in bug-wise. It allows me to make my own fun.

Edit: Did this reply get modded for profanity? My f-word seems to have changed to BSG speak.
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: November 03, 2020, 04:00:28 PM »

Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on November 03, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use.

Do you mean that your designs have turrets for PD and just loose lasers for attack?

Just out of curiosity
Yes, in principle that's how it goes. As TheTalkingMeowth said, beam ships need to catch their target first so there's little need to use turrets as they are fast already. PD escorts often double up as close range brawlers though, if the situation requires it.

Quote from: Droll on November 03, 2020, 01:11:17 PM
But I want railgun turrets
Sure sure sure :) But what's the difference between a railgun turret and a quad GC turret?

I'm sure you know, but the difference is that a railgun turret is about 4x better. Cause a railgun is smaller than a full accuracy gauss turret. And costs less research. And might just be cheaper?

Steve said somewhere that the reason railguns can't be turreted is that, if they could, gauss cannons (and, shortly thereafter, missiles) would be obsolete.
Posted by: Garfunkel
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:45:35 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on November 03, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use.

Do you mean that your designs have turrets for PD and just loose lasers for attack?

Just out of curiosity
Yes, in principle that's how it goes. As TheTalkingMeowth said, beam ships need to catch their target first so there's little need to use turrets as they are fast already. PD escorts often double up as close range brawlers though, if the situation requires it.

Quote from: Droll on November 03, 2020, 01:11:17 PM
But I want railgun turrets
Sure sure sure :) But what's the difference between a railgun turret and a quad GC turret?
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:37:31 PM »

Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on November 03, 2020, 03:12:55 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on November 03, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use.
Do you mean that your designs have turrets for PD and just loose lasers for attack?
Just out of curiosity
Your energy armed ships should probably be about as fast as the enemy ships they are shooting at, so putting anti-ship weapons in turrets is unnecessary. At least, that's why I don't put anti-ship weapons in turrets.

That I know, however in early designs turrets are the only way to match enemy ships' speed. Probably in later designs and with higher calibers, turrets can be avoided mostly for displacements costs than actual gameplay mechanic as to protect your cannons you will have to armor the turrets making excessively and unnecessarily expensive.

At least this is my experience.
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:12:55 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on November 03, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use.

Do you mean that your designs have turrets for PD and just loose lasers for attack?

Just out of curiosity

Your energy armed ships should probably be about as fast as the enemy ships they are shooting at, so putting anti-ship weapons in turrets is unnecessary. At least, that's why I don't put anti-ship weapons in turrets.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: November 03, 2020, 02:52:47 PM »

Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use.

Do you mean that your designs have turrets for PD and just loose lasers for attack?

Just out of curiosity
Posted by: Droll
« on: November 03, 2020, 01:11:17 PM »

Quote from: Garfunkel on November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use. In Sci-Fi, we often see ships with weapon turrets that fire at other ships but in Aurora terms, those would be hull-mounted weapons. And as Elvin said, all the names can be changed to fit with your story. There is no need to have two dozen weapons that are just blue beam, red beam, yellow beam, white beam. Remember that as you research the higher rates of fire, gauss cannons start shooting as often as rail guns do.

The only obstacle here is your imagination, so let it fly wild!

But I want railgun turrets
Posted by: Garfunkel
« on: November 03, 2020, 12:28:06 PM »

But you don't need to do that because turrets are really only useful for PD use. In Sci-Fi, we often see ships with weapon turrets that fire at other ships but in Aurora terms, those would be hull-mounted weapons. And as Elvin said, all the names can be changed to fit with your story. There is no need to have two dozen weapons that are just blue beam, red beam, yellow beam, white beam. Remember that as you research the higher rates of fire, gauss cannons start shooting as often as rail guns do.

Do you want a fast-firing weapon in a 360 turret? That's a Quad Gauss Cannon Turret which you can then rename as "halo 11a2r1 naval coilgun battery". Do you want a slow-firing big cannon that goes BOOM? That's (an Advanced) Spinal Laser and/or Particle Lance which you can then rename as "galaxy wave cannon" or whatever.

The only obstacle here is your imagination, so let it fly wild!

Posted by: Droll
« on: November 03, 2020, 05:31:14 AM »

Quote from: Malorn on November 02, 2020, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on November 02, 2020, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Malorn on November 02, 2020, 03:41:39 PM
Turreted railguns...go for it.

Railguns (and particle beams and plasma carronades) can't be turreted.

Huh, I thought that was only in VB6? I guess you can tell how often I use those weapons.

Yeah as I said you need to mess around with the DB in order to get railgun turrets, carronade turrets etc.
Posted by: Malorn
« on: November 02, 2020, 11:09:29 PM »

Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on November 02, 2020, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Malorn on November 02, 2020, 03:41:39 PM
Turreted railguns...go for it.

Railguns (and particle beams and plasma carronades) can't be turreted.

Huh, I thought that was only in VB6? I guess you can tell how often I use those weapons.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: November 02, 2020, 09:48:20 PM »

Quote from: Bremen on November 02, 2020, 09:27:45 PM
Railguns are already in the game, as are gauss (coilguns).

I think Droll was referring only to turrets as railgun couldnt be installed on that in the vanilla game.