Cold War Comments Thread

[Black]

This outcome in Sligo might be the best in long term for Humanity. It forces Ruston's hand to deal with Tarek and discredits Wunderland leadership so it will be easier to get them back in the fold.

[Kurt (OP)]

So the Wunderlanders have no PDCs at all to provide cover for their damaged units and (eventual) shipyard?

It sounds like diverting enough firepower to destroy the shipyards would have been a big ask of the fleet and meant inflicting even fewer casualties on the Taurek.

The Tarek have 74% of their mobile units left and nearly 2 to 1 numbers advantage so I'm guessing the strategic play for them would be to chase down the rest of the Wunderlander fleet and thereby get control of interplanetary space.

Yeah, the Wunderlanders never built PDC's.  And the only capital missile units they have are the old destroyers.  The Wunderlander fleet can withdraw under the guns of the orbital bases, conceding the rest of the system, as there are no other human populations in the system, but then they will be cut off from outside resources.  But while the Wunderlander bases are small (BS0's), they are modern and thus more advanced than anything the Tarek have. 

Kurt

[Kurt (OP)]

I can't remember if this was ever mentioned, but what happened to the D'Bringi citizens in Brezhnev that joined the Soviets?

I probably didn't make it clear enough that the Russians were evacuating the entire warp chain, because of the presence of multiple closed warp points to D'Bringi space, and the fact that the warp chain was limited to three systems with no open warp points and no habitable planets, making it more of a liability than anything else.  Their evacuation included the D'Bringi who had defected and were supporting the Home Fleet while it was isolated in the Brezhnev system.  They were relocated to the Moskva system, with eventual plans to be relocated again to an ST planet suitable for their race.  They will be mentioned in future updates. 

Kurt

[Kurt (OP)]

This outcome in Sligo might be the best in long term for Humanity. It forces Ruston's hand to deal with Tarek and discredits Wunderland leadership so it will be easier to get them back in the fold.

I wasn't sure how this was going to work out myself, until this battle went so wrong for the Wunderlanders.  If the Wunderlanders won the battle, or at least could credibly claim victory, then the new government would have a chance to entrench itself and would be hostile to the idea of rejoining the rest of the colonies.  They would become a separatist faction for the foreseeable future.  It didn't work out for them, though. 

Kurt

[Gyrfalcon]

Ah humanity, never stop screwing up. I’m curious what the Admiral will do, given Wunderland’s rebellion. He’ll be forced to engage the Tarek, as there is no ability to talk to them.

[misanthropope]

honestly?  it's SLILGO, give up the colony and let them blow the tarek up from the inside.

damn sligo.

[StarshipCactus]

I can't remember if this was ever mentioned, but what happened to the D'Bringi citizens in Brezhnev that joined the Soviets?

I probably didn't make it clear enough that the Russians were evacuating the entire warp chain, because of the presence of multiple closed warp points to D'Bringi space, and the fact that the warp chain was limited to three systems with no open warp points and no habitable planets, making it more of a liability than anything else.  Their evacuation included the D'Bringi who had defected and were supporting the Home Fleet while it was isolated in the Brezhnev system.  They were relocated to the Moskva system, with eventual plans to be relocated again to an ST planet suitable for their race.  They will be mentioned in future updates. 

Kurt

Ah ha, thanks

[StarshipCactus]

It looks like everything has worked out in relation to Sligo and the Wunderland colony. Just need the Coalition to blow up the military bases and other assets of the Tarek when they arrive. Also do a little arm twisting to make sure the colonies help the refugees from Earth and remain in the Coalition properly.

[Black]

Reports on state of Humanity and D’Bringi give some hope that Humanity will be able to catch a breath and at least for some time focus on dealing with refugee crysis and stabilization of their new aliance and changes in D’Bringi mentality could very well lead to long term peace with Humanity.

[Gyrfalcon]

With the change to Humanity becoming a swarm of civs, will they catch up with the D’Bringi Alliance in trade income?

[Kurt (OP)]

With the change to Humanity becoming a swarm of civs, will they catch up with the D’Bringi Alliance in trade income?

They are trying, that's for sure. 

Kurt

[Black]

Well I wondered what will go bad for Humanity as few previous updates seemed that it is going relatively well for them.

[Black]

I noticed in last update, that Mintek have fighters. They played no part in battle against D’Bringi. So that could be very unpleasant surprise for D’Bringi when they attempt another push against Mintek, as it seems unlikely, that they would ask Keepers to send their escort carriers, because the clans are dismissive of their usefulness.

[Kurt (OP)]

I noticed in last update, that Mintek have fighters. They played no part in battle against D’Bringi. So that could be very unpleasant surprise for D’Bringi when they attempt another push against Mintek, as it seems unlikely, that they would ask Keepers to send their escort carriers, because the clans are dismissive of their usefulness.

This is a relatively new development for the Mintek, and they are pushing out carriers as fast as they can. 

Kurt

[Gyrfalcon]

Ooof. And Humanity is so behind the curve that they'll get curb stomped once they encounter the Mintak.

Logically speaking, the Mintak have no chance of taking the Alliance - they're simply too small, and once the Alliance learns that fighters are a game changer, they'll go all in on carriers as well. Once both of those powers have carriers out the wazoo, Humanity is stuck playing catchup with no realistic way of doing so.