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[sublight]

I'm concerned that the current challenge rules/objectives are sufficiently open ended to allow for challenge exploits.

For example, there appears to be no time pressure or alternate objectives to compel combat, which would allow a stealth recon fleet to hide for a couple years until their opponent crumble to dust from moral/engineering failures and only then move in for the kill. This wouldn't even have to be done maliciously. If my self propelled weapon platform needs 6-months to reach sol then any opponent that chose the default 3-month deployment time will be down to 50% moral when battle starts.

[Panopticon]

We could simply... not be butts and use exploits like that?

[sublight]

I'm all for gentlemen agreements to submit a realistic fleet and pledge not to use challenge exploit gimick. That's why I posted publicity rather than dropping private message.

The real issue is speed. If you are fast enough to dodge missiles then going faster is often better. However you are using tanks that can't dodge anything then going slower to save BP for weapons is usually better. I'd like to establish a ground rule on what is too slow since I was seriously contemplating a 500 km/s fleet design and had no clue how that would be viewed by the others.

[Sheb (OP)]

Yeah, I'm going to quietly veto any design that rely on waiting for your enemy to implode from lack of maintenance facilities.

I'm not, however, going to put a limit on how slow a given design can be. If you want to go the slow tank route, it's fine by me. You're at risk of getting utterly destroyed if your enemy outrage you though.

[Panopticon]

The enemy always outrages me, daring to exist in my system.

[boggo2300]

The enemy always outrages me, daring to exist in my system.

I know

[Thanatos]

Hey, I thought about this stuff too, but in the end submitted something I would actually use in a game, for assaulting enemy systems.

I prefer my tanks to be Abrams, not some slowpoke Matilda II, if you catch my drift.

[sublight]

Fleet submitted.

The fleet is a variation of what I might use in a multi-faction game, only I had fun with the unlimited shipyard size to combine what would ordinarily be specialized designs.

[lennson]

This looks interesting.  I sent a very simple design to create a fleet out of.  Feel free to ignore it if you think it wont be competitive.

[Panopticon]

I submitted, my design is either awesome or stupid, we'll find out soon I guess.

[Sheb (OP)]

5 designs in so far, I've started the job of re-creating them in my Aurora. Lots of nice design I would never have built in a lifetime, this is going to be fun. My GF is around this week, so I might take up to a week to start running the first matches, but I hope to do at least a couple this week-end.

[MarcAFK]

Like most of the others I'm going to submit what I would probably be using at that 5000rp tech level, however I might play around with components and see what I can do with relatively cheap components. My swarm of Matilda II's might just surprise that Abrams.

[Thanatos]

Like most of the others I'm going to submit what I would probably be using at that 5000rp tech level, however I might play around with components and see what I can do with relatively cheap components. My swarm of Matilda II's might just surprise that Abrams.

Hey, Abrams are not invulnerable, and at the time Matty's were! But you gotta respect a machine that can go really fast offroad, uphill, over rocks, over cars, over buildings, and still fire straight and accurate.

Then again, at 5000rp, I cannot really call it an Abrams can I? It's more like... a Panzer III. Or maybe a Hotrod with a .50 on the hood, in a mad max universe.

[Sheb (OP)]

So actually, I had a question. Would you guys mind if I entered a design of my own in the race? I mean, I'm the GM, so you'd have to take it on my word that I'm being fair, but I have an idea for a design radically different from any I've seen so far, not exploity and that I think should be effective.

[MarcAFK]

Go for it, the last time something like this was done it was mostly the hosts designs with a few other submissions, though you do technically have inside information. As long as your design is just different from what you've seen,  not something specifically made to exploit designs you have seen.