Posted by: Vandermeer
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:20:08 AM »Pioneers in Space and Knowledge
The great poll had been carried out, and an overwhelming number agreed to carry on our search. Brahma hinted urges for knowledge have been stronger than those for secured logistics and soothing the homesickness. Avalloc was happy, but there was some reason for concern that I shared with Beaumains. He confirmed the notion - the last conjuring carried a veiled and crude understanding of the Yaga Minor wreck computer with it. Since it was not really part of the question, we only saw faint hints that basically listed -amongst other reasons for carrying on- also the wish to find out (even) more about the wreck by exploring other regions. Following this hunch, we investigated the brb-library file, and it indeed showed numerous openings and visits. ...It seems some souls in Archipel had made it their free-time hobby to toy around with the language problems, and actually made progress without reporting.
Painted question marks were showing on the bridge staff's faces when we came back and announced a second official counseling, but we continued without explaining too much. The result was not really what we had expected. There was actually no one that had made real progress at all, speaking in terms of actually translating some code, but some Zen had managed to assemble snippets of an interface prototype that simply let the library do the advanced decrypting job in much the same manner as it decrypts our mundanely formulated requests. As such, a working prototype could be used much in the same way, so that we ask questions and receive answers.
It is all (brilliant) theory as about now, but based on the vista, we believe that the convergence of the made efforts could quickly lead to a success. I ordered thus a delay on carrying out the jump that was decided upon, and invited the character that showed most progress with this idea to a meeting.
[...]
[private audio logs]
Huuh, so we just finished counseling with Galiene Bondeville, the one that WE identified as promising due to her success, but also the whole 'entourage' she brought along. ...Those are two hours I will never get back of my life.
*sigh* Where do I begin?
So this lady lieutenant basically entered the lounge with her full assigned staff, having a whole presentation of the subject already prepared - obviously couching for some time for this to happen, instead of bringing it up by herself, and then she has the nerve to open with words as "it took you long to notice Admiral", or "we waited for you to be not so ..busy anymore", whatever it was, I don't remember. Basically she smirks and talks as if being the only one important around. Never in my life have I seen someone this incredibly self absorbed.
I mean, at first I was kind of curious only, because her way of talking was kind of unique, and seemed like a funny act, because it was just that ridiculous. ..It just couldn't be real, ok? So I giggled here and there.
But then we got into arguments about what she actually presented, and it became obvious that she actually personifies that caricature, that believes everything she does superior. Yet, what she brought up was utterly stupid. The introduction which she prepared already blew all logic out of the window. Something about empathic energies, intuition, deus ex machina, and finding "the will to believe". I waited patiently and kind of perplexed until something came up that I could discuss. She started describing computers made of brane-crossing affine elements, that would actually reach out into the other dimensions, and how that would lead to very 'organic' calculations etc. yadada. Nonsense. This is absolute 101: No matter extends beyond our 3 dimensions, ok? The affine elements only communicate over the one great connector, which is gravity very efficiently. There might be some concept similar to matter out there, which might explain obscure mass and energy, but neither does that touch us, nor we touch this. It has been proven in experiments again and again, and the argument for this actually quite simplistic and convincing.
So that is where I interrupted. I thought she might eventually bait me into bringing up the standard argument, so me, slowly realizing the actual size of her 'self', didn't want to give her that satisfaction and asked instead how she would plan to 'build' in a dimension that cannot even be perceived. She then had something that was actually quite interesting about gravitic scans for illumination and self organizing structures for the actual building process, so there I gave her a point and nodded. ...She immediately was like "ahaha, see? you are learning.", and that is where I lost it.
You know missy, I had my share of science education as well. I puzzled together my first labyrinthian programs with age 9, and had mastered calculating spacial warpings with hubbleton-mechanic's energy conservation principle by 11.
Yes, in a world where conventional mass pierces through the dimensions, your nice ideas about how the higher perceivable ones could be molded, are not entirely trash. Bare-bone hypothesis, but not entirely trash. However, what does that get you if it is A.) proven to be false in the beginning, and B.) does not even bring any benefits, even it was true, which it is not.
What do computers with a reach into other dimensions add to the equation, seriously? For all we know, we could form pretty much two dimensional computers right here, and it would be no different. All that a second dimension adds for example, is making the whole thing much more compact for us. So, miniaturization? ...It has nothing to do with what a computer is actually capable of, from beginning to end.
[some seconds of silence]
So I confronted her about that nothing she had brought up so far had anything to do with explaining the potential decryption. Galiene then claimed that those alien computers, as well as the labyrinthian systems had already been built this way, and that must be why they managed to understand each other where our direct attempts did not cause reaction. But we used accustomed library programs for those attempts as well, so what would really be different this time, I asked. Belief, intuition, being closer with the machine to realize the flow of "arcane" energy it seems. Aha. I am sold.
Since I was at that point really curious how she would also evade the core question, which is debunking the proofs that all the crossing affine elements have all their mass in our 3 ones (easily doable by counting the atoms here and then measuring the gravity up there, mind you), she only had a line like "if I wasn't right, then how come I succeeded" or something. Yeah, I thought she wanted to play clever games with me, but she apparently wasn't even smart enough for that.
Well, so I declared the presentation to be over - I am sure she had a lot more made up graphs and such prepared. Her entourage knew that this was coming, as they politely held back in the arguments, and only acknowledged points that Galiene asked them to. In between doors there was also some vindictive remark like "great minds fare new seas" or something. Sure that, sure. That is what we do, but then you had to come with us as well.
As little as I like it, something has still to be done about this affair. A difficult to handle situation, but I will definitely see to put her somewhere back in this. See how she likes being fifth wheel.
[Official memoria screening]
The Admirals and the specialists department have now reviewed the progress that had surprisingly been made concerning the translation of the found Yaga Minor wreck's computer technology. It was found however, that the underlying concept has yet to mature, and does at the moment not produce any revisable theory. However, the advances cannot be denied, and to find the sources, a research team will be called into duty, led by Lieutenant Gal...
...ahault Jubert.
As the running length of the project cannot be foreseen at date, the upcoming jump is issued for as of tomorrow.
[private audio log - same day, evening]
I have a confession to make and some interesting information to log. So this evening two of Galienes team members came to my quarter and apologized for her attitude, while bringing me a rose too! I have pity on those guys, but someone has to work with her, as she demonstrated quite the CTR for one of her age at some point. The two explained to me that Galiene just changed when she stumbled among these successes, and that she had been quite humble before.
I must admit that I immediately believed them somehow, although I cannot say why. Too trusting with nice people maybe.*sigh*
This also got me interested further, so I secretly summoned a focused session for myself, to figure out what the general opinion and evaluation of her and her work was, based on judgements of those around. There wasn't anything out of the line concerning the parts that I had already been told, but then I noticed something strange. Galiens own opinion was missing the entire time. It was subtle, as concentrated individual opinions cannot really be filtered, but must be recognized by wits and tricky 'questions'. Even if one decides to not take part in current requests, there is still a way to at least recognize that a denial happened.
I tried what I could, but it is as if she is just not there. The only way I could imagine how this could be is that she figured out some greater way of controlling the Omnisciets. ..Which could eventually mean that she has greater potential than me, hmmm.
This women raises my suspicion in all the ways, good and bad.
Anyway, I thought it might be worth logging this, bye away my late night listener ...s.
It speaks what should be silent
( Late addition: Hah, I thought I might give this part a fancy headline, even though only the beginning part contains actual report instead of document
- Fl.Admiral Laudine )
The third jump in Zenit history, and hello would we have missed out on something if we had stayed. After the usual unspectacular fade event of the jump, suddenly there was light and cosmic dancing. Aikhibba is a beautiful constellation of two twin sets of stars circling each other, making it a system of four married suns - a rarity amongst rarities. Freeing myself from nostalgia, I can easily admit that the beauty here is greater than that of our very home. I try myself in poetry, ahem, "Here a Zenit can be reborn Zenit again", "see Aikhibba and awaken the twofold Zenit"...[pause]
[continue//]Ha ha, ok, so Avalloc meant I sounded as if advertising a tourist cruise already, so I will stop. Hmm, but I might in the future. There are some pictoresque swaths of nebula, enhancing every planets panorama, and the central star is just so immensely bright and clear...
And we already made out a potentially habitable planet, so this will definitely mean our first extra-asurian exploration and shore leave is at hand. I get thrills just thinking of all the neat organization that will cause. We will need shelters, an automatic analyzer and medic lab, organized exploration and sightseeing tours... . We will also get to test out Sirocco's systems for the first time and see how fast Elder Phantasm may have once been converted.
A very interesting and convenient thing about Aikhibba is that the smaller pair of twins is actually gravitationally massive enough to be considered an elongation of the first, meaning there is a point just outside of the second suns orbit radius, where we can jump towards the second pair, using pretty much the standard shift, except that we do not even need the infrastructure over such short distances. The system is like a natural wonder, leaving us to riddle why we were raised here maybe?
Anyway, the survey teams are already eager and on their way. We must have some patience before, *hugh?* [interrupt]
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
The great poll had been carried out, and an overwhelming number agreed to carry on our search. Brahma hinted urges for knowledge have been stronger than those for secured logistics and soothing the homesickness. Avalloc was happy, but there was some reason for concern that I shared with Beaumains. He confirmed the notion - the last conjuring carried a veiled and crude understanding of the Yaga Minor wreck computer with it. Since it was not really part of the question, we only saw faint hints that basically listed -amongst other reasons for carrying on- also the wish to find out (even) more about the wreck by exploring other regions. Following this hunch, we investigated the brb-library file, and it indeed showed numerous openings and visits. ...It seems some souls in Archipel had made it their free-time hobby to toy around with the language problems, and actually made progress without reporting.
Painted question marks were showing on the bridge staff's faces when we came back and announced a second official counseling, but we continued without explaining too much. The result was not really what we had expected. There was actually no one that had made real progress at all, speaking in terms of actually translating some code, but some Zen had managed to assemble snippets of an interface prototype that simply let the library do the advanced decrypting job in much the same manner as it decrypts our mundanely formulated requests. As such, a working prototype could be used much in the same way, so that we ask questions and receive answers.
It is all (brilliant) theory as about now, but based on the vista, we believe that the convergence of the made efforts could quickly lead to a success. I ordered thus a delay on carrying out the jump that was decided upon, and invited the character that showed most progress with this idea to a meeting.
[...]
[private audio logs]
Huuh, so we just finished counseling with Galiene Bondeville, the one that WE identified as promising due to her success, but also the whole 'entourage' she brought along. ...Those are two hours I will never get back of my life.
*sigh* Where do I begin?
So this lady lieutenant basically entered the lounge with her full assigned staff, having a whole presentation of the subject already prepared - obviously couching for some time for this to happen, instead of bringing it up by herself, and then she has the nerve to open with words as "it took you long to notice Admiral", or "we waited for you to be not so ..busy anymore", whatever it was, I don't remember. Basically she smirks and talks as if being the only one important around. Never in my life have I seen someone this incredibly self absorbed.
I mean, at first I was kind of curious only, because her way of talking was kind of unique, and seemed like a funny act, because it was just that ridiculous. ..It just couldn't be real, ok? So I giggled here and there.
But then we got into arguments about what she actually presented, and it became obvious that she actually personifies that caricature, that believes everything she does superior. Yet, what she brought up was utterly stupid. The introduction which she prepared already blew all logic out of the window. Something about empathic energies, intuition, deus ex machina, and finding "the will to believe". I waited patiently and kind of perplexed until something came up that I could discuss. She started describing computers made of brane-crossing affine elements, that would actually reach out into the other dimensions, and how that would lead to very 'organic' calculations etc. yadada. Nonsense. This is absolute 101: No matter extends beyond our 3 dimensions, ok? The affine elements only communicate over the one great connector, which is gravity very efficiently. There might be some concept similar to matter out there, which might explain obscure mass and energy, but neither does that touch us, nor we touch this. It has been proven in experiments again and again, and the argument for this actually quite simplistic and convincing.
So that is where I interrupted. I thought she might eventually bait me into bringing up the standard argument, so me, slowly realizing the actual size of her 'self', didn't want to give her that satisfaction and asked instead how she would plan to 'build' in a dimension that cannot even be perceived. She then had something that was actually quite interesting about gravitic scans for illumination and self organizing structures for the actual building process, so there I gave her a point and nodded. ...She immediately was like "ahaha, see? you are learning.", and that is where I lost it.
You know missy, I had my share of science education as well. I puzzled together my first labyrinthian programs with age 9, and had mastered calculating spacial warpings with hubbleton-mechanic's energy conservation principle by 11.
Yes, in a world where conventional mass pierces through the dimensions, your nice ideas about how the higher perceivable ones could be molded, are not entirely trash. Bare-bone hypothesis, but not entirely trash. However, what does that get you if it is A.) proven to be false in the beginning, and B.) does not even bring any benefits, even it was true, which it is not.
What do computers with a reach into other dimensions add to the equation, seriously? For all we know, we could form pretty much two dimensional computers right here, and it would be no different. All that a second dimension adds for example, is making the whole thing much more compact for us. So, miniaturization? ...It has nothing to do with what a computer is actually capable of, from beginning to end.
[some seconds of silence]
So I confronted her about that nothing she had brought up so far had anything to do with explaining the potential decryption. Galiene then claimed that those alien computers, as well as the labyrinthian systems had already been built this way, and that must be why they managed to understand each other where our direct attempts did not cause reaction. But we used accustomed library programs for those attempts as well, so what would really be different this time, I asked. Belief, intuition, being closer with the machine to realize the flow of "arcane" energy it seems. Aha. I am sold.
Since I was at that point really curious how she would also evade the core question, which is debunking the proofs that all the crossing affine elements have all their mass in our 3 ones (easily doable by counting the atoms here and then measuring the gravity up there, mind you), she only had a line like "if I wasn't right, then how come I succeeded" or something. Yeah, I thought she wanted to play clever games with me, but she apparently wasn't even smart enough for that.
Well, so I declared the presentation to be over - I am sure she had a lot more made up graphs and such prepared. Her entourage knew that this was coming, as they politely held back in the arguments, and only acknowledged points that Galiene asked them to. In between doors there was also some vindictive remark like "great minds fare new seas" or something. Sure that, sure. That is what we do, but then you had to come with us as well.
As little as I like it, something has still to be done about this affair. A difficult to handle situation, but I will definitely see to put her somewhere back in this. See how she likes being fifth wheel.
[Official memoria screening]
The Admirals and the specialists department have now reviewed the progress that had surprisingly been made concerning the translation of the found Yaga Minor wreck's computer technology. It was found however, that the underlying concept has yet to mature, and does at the moment not produce any revisable theory. However, the advances cannot be denied, and to find the sources, a research team will be called into duty, led by Lieutenant Gal...
...ahault Jubert.
As the running length of the project cannot be foreseen at date, the upcoming jump is issued for as of tomorrow.
[private audio log - same day, evening]
I have a confession to make and some interesting information to log. So this evening two of Galienes team members came to my quarter and apologized for her attitude, while bringing me a rose too! I have pity on those guys, but someone has to work with her, as she demonstrated quite the CTR for one of her age at some point. The two explained to me that Galiene just changed when she stumbled among these successes, and that she had been quite humble before.
I must admit that I immediately believed them somehow, although I cannot say why. Too trusting with nice people maybe.*sigh*
This also got me interested further, so I secretly summoned a focused session for myself, to figure out what the general opinion and evaluation of her and her work was, based on judgements of those around. There wasn't anything out of the line concerning the parts that I had already been told, but then I noticed something strange. Galiens own opinion was missing the entire time. It was subtle, as concentrated individual opinions cannot really be filtered, but must be recognized by wits and tricky 'questions'. Even if one decides to not take part in current requests, there is still a way to at least recognize that a denial happened.
I tried what I could, but it is as if she is just not there. The only way I could imagine how this could be is that she figured out some greater way of controlling the Omnisciets. ..Which could eventually mean that she has greater potential than me, hmmm.
This women raises my suspicion in all the ways, good and bad.
Anyway, I thought it might be worth logging this, bye away my late night listener ...s.
It speaks what should be silent
( Late addition: Hah, I thought I might give this part a fancy headline, even though only the beginning part contains actual report instead of document
- Fl.Admiral Laudine )
The third jump in Zenit history, and hello would we have missed out on something if we had stayed. After the usual unspectacular fade event of the jump, suddenly there was light and cosmic dancing. Aikhibba is a beautiful constellation of two twin sets of stars circling each other, making it a system of four married suns - a rarity amongst rarities. Freeing myself from nostalgia, I can easily admit that the beauty here is greater than that of our very home. I try myself in poetry, ahem, "Here a Zenit can be reborn Zenit again", "see Aikhibba and awaken the twofold Zenit"...[pause]
[continue//]Ha ha, ok, so Avalloc meant I sounded as if advertising a tourist cruise already, so I will stop. Hmm, but I might in the future. There are some pictoresque swaths of nebula, enhancing every planets panorama, and the central star is just so immensely bright and clear...
And we already made out a potentially habitable planet, so this will definitely mean our first extra-asurian exploration and shore leave is at hand. I get thrills just thinking of all the neat organization that will cause. We will need shelters, an automatic analyzer and medic lab, organized exploration and sightseeing tours... . We will also get to test out Sirocco's systems for the first time and see how fast Elder Phantasm may have once been converted.
A very interesting and convenient thing about Aikhibba is that the smaller pair of twins is actually gravitationally massive enough to be considered an elongation of the first, meaning there is a point just outside of the second suns orbit radius, where we can jump towards the second pair, using pretty much the standard shift, except that we do not even need the infrastructure over such short distances. The system is like a natural wonder, leaving us to riddle why we were raised here maybe?
Anyway, the survey teams are already eager and on their way. We must have some patience before, *hugh?* [interrupt]
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.