I've always wanted to create a spinal-mounted Frigate that was basically a floating gun. . .
Slightly different variant of fast inteception ship, first to meet enemy in border systems until mail forces arrive:
Approach, keep range ~900k kmQuoteKiev-L M7 class Frigate 2 996 tons 116 Crew 5 382.1 BP TCS 1 TH 40 EM 0
16693 km/s Armour 6-18 Shields 0-0 HTK 27 Sensors 50/50/0/0 DCR 1 PPV 16
Maint Life 3.76 Years MSP 1 684 AFR 48% IFR 0.7% 1YR 186 5YR 2 793 Max Repair 1500 MSP
Commander Control Rating 1 BRG
Intended Deployment Time: 1.5 months Morale Check Required
Gas Core AM Drive 200% EP500.00 (2) Power 1000 Fuel Use 100% Signature 20.00 Explosion 20%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres Range 30 billion km (20 days at full power)
25.0cm C16 Near Gamma Ray Laser (2) Range 1 000 000km TS: 16 693 km/s Power 16-16 RM 100 000 km ROF 5
Beam Fire Control R1000-TS15000 (5%) (1) Max Range: 1 000 000 km TS: 15 000 km/s 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant R16 (2) Total Power Output 32 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor AS39-R1 (5%) (1) GPS 100 Range 39.9m km MCR 3.6m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-50.0 (5%) (1) Sensitivity 50 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 55.9m km
EM Sensor EM1.0-50.0 (5%) (1) Sensitivity 50 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 55.9m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 2.00% of normal
Compact ECCM-6 (1) ECM 70
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
you are by all means right, but still the 100% just satisfies an emotional need for safety that the 17% can never hope to achieve... its important to remember that this game isn't nescessarily one where you need to optimize things, and that you can, and should whenever its fun, make decisions that let you have the most fun.
if big 100%GC senpai makes you feel safer, go with 100%GCsenpai
About leakers then please see this thread... 100% Gauss generally produce the most leaking missiles. I did allot of tests about this and so have others too.you are by all means right, but still the 100% just satisfies an emotional need for safety that the 17% can never hope to achieve... its important to remember that this game isn't nescessarily one where you need to optimize things, and that you can, and should whenever its fun, make decisions that let you have the most fun.
Slightly different variant of fast inteception ship, first to meet enemy in border systems until mail forces arrive:this technology is light years beyond my comprehension. I was going to criticise the 25cm laser, but then I noticed its ROF 5. I shall never recover from the shock.
Approach, keep range ~900k km
Kiev-L M7 class Frigate 2 996 tons 116 Crew 5 382.1 BP TCS 1 TH 40 EM 0
16693 km/s Armour 6-18 Shields 0-0 HTK 27 Sensors 50/50/0/0 DCR 1 PPV 16
Maint Life 3.76 Years MSP 1 684 AFR 48% IFR 0.7% 1YR 186 5YR 2 793 Max Repair 1500 MSP
Commander Control Rating 1 BRG
Intended Deployment Time: 1.5 months Morale Check Required
Gas Core AM Drive 200% EP500.00 (2) Power 1000 Fuel Use 100% Signature 20.00 Explosion 20%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres Range 30 billion km (20 days at full power)
25.0cm C16 Near Gamma Ray Laser (2) Range 1 000 000km TS: 16 693 km/s Power 16-16 RM 100 000 km ROF 5
Beam Fire Control R1000-TS15000 (5%) (1) Max Range: 1 000 000 km TS: 15 000 km/s 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant R16 (2) Total Power Output 32 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor AS39-R1 (5%) (1) GPS 100 Range 39.9m km MCR 3.6m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-50.0 (5%) (1) Sensitivity 50 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 55.9m km
EM Sensor EM1.0-50.0 (5%) (1) Sensitivity 50 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 55.9m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 2.00% of normal
Compact ECCM-6 (1) ECM 70
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
I love the basic idea, and it is one that I did myself too back on the good old days of VB6... that said, that ship is a bit slow, to close in fast enough at that tech level, assuming enemies of similar tech level, it would need to be at least twice as fast. I also like that you put PD on this ship, this means you wont get caught with your pants down by cheeky NPRs, but once you get to the right speeds, you can even drop the turrets, and go either with 10 cm railguns or some GC. There has always been some discussion over whether reduced size or full size GC are better, but from what I got, 100% gets the least leakers, but has less granularity, and forces you to use single and twin turrets to cover that, maning you are less space efficient, and are also a bit easier to completely overwhelm. reduced size GC tends to be a bit more versatile, and you can put it basically anywhere, can use quad turrets, which are more efficient in terms of space, and are a bit harder to completely overwhelm, and are a good choice if you have shields who can take a couple leakers every once in a while. Just make sure the hit chance is always bigger than 1%, that is the minimum for the game to consider.
you do realize that on C#, that can mean from 30.000 tons to 180.000 tons right? your max engine size can get to 400HS.
What I define as "cruisers" is generally a ship that has at least 3 max sized engines, and enough engineering and maintenance supplies to repair at least one if battle damaged.
That ship is astonishingly slow for IF. It's moving at base-level Ion speeds. If your enemy has even ion or magneto-plasma tech, they're going to kite you to death. Also, your range is at least 3x too large. Boost engine size and massively increase engine boost percentage. At least 110%. Your beam ships need to be as fast as possible to close on the enemy.
How fast should they be going? I've tried the same engines boosted to 150% and 200% but they get such smeg fuel economy that they can hardly make it out of the Sol jumpgate.
That ship is astonishingly slow for IF. It's moving at base-level Ion speeds. If your enemy has even ion or magneto-plasma tech, they're going to kite you to death. Also, your range is at least 3x too large. Boost engine size and massively increase engine boost percentage. At least 110%. Your beam ships need to be as fast as possible to close on the enemy.
How fast should they be going? I've tried the same engines boosted to 150% and 200% but they get such smeg fuel economy that they can hardly make it out of the Sol jumpgate.
It completely depends on your enemies and how you want the sips to be used. You can't say that one speed is better than the next unless you put it into context.
Whatever you choose there is a trade off between cost, fuel and mission tonnage.
It goes without saying that it depends. But I think it can be assumed that unless specifically stated that most warships are designed to venture out and fight the enemy, meaning they need some fuel economy. I'm trying to develop some 'rules of thumb' to apply when designing my ships since I don't know what constitutes good, bad, and too much in a lot of cases.
I assume that expeditionary fleets should all be supported by tankers while in transit? Or would that slow them down too much and make them even more fuel inefficient meaning its better to have ships carry their own fuel? Its things like this I'm trying to figure out.
