Having to repeatedly check a list and click 'ok' to get them to build when I need them to isn't an improvement. The 'civilians on/off' checkbox we currently have is better than that on all counts.Why not just have settings similar to other aspects of the game? Allow us to set a cap on the number of civilian companies and/or ships (or history length or whatever other pertinent parameter there is). That gives a little more flexibility that the either/or choice we now have.If an automatic 'just right' solution exists then there is no need for manual fine tuning. Limiting production of classes that already have idlers has the benefits of being relatively simple, scalable, and fully automatic.I'd love both a limit on the number of ships AND ability to influence what they build. So if they want a freighter I get a window where I can say Yes you can build it or No you cannot. Might be too much work, but I could tailor the civilians to do what is most needed instead of doing their own thing.That would be giving the player too much control, and the popup spam would quickly become intolerable. Civvies are supposed to act independently, for good and ill.
Too much controler does not exist as long as we have SM mode. And I would not do it as a popup, a new window with all the waiting tasks would be better. You would just click yes or not there and if you do not do anything they do not build anything nor does it bother you in any way.
Why not just have settings similar to other aspects of the game? Allow us to set a cap on the number of civilian companies and/or ships (or history length or whatever other pertinent parameter there is). That gives a little more flexibility that the either/or choice we now have.If an automatic 'just right' solution exists then there is no need for manual fine tuning. Limiting production of classes that already have idlers has the benefits of being relatively simple, scalable, and fully automatic.I'd love both a limit on the number of ships AND ability to influence what they build. So if they want a freighter I get a window where I can say Yes you can build it or No you cannot. Might be too much work, but I could tailor the civilians to do what is most needed instead of doing their own thing.That would be giving the player too much control, and the popup spam would quickly become intolerable. Civvies are supposed to act independently, for good and ill.
Why not just have settings similar to other aspects of the game? Allow us to set a cap on the number of civilian companies and/or ships (or history length or whatever other pertinent parameter there is). That gives a little more flexibility that the either/or choice we now have.If an automatic 'just right' solution exists then there is no need for manual fine tuning. Limiting production of classes that already have idlers has the benefits of being relatively simple, scalable, and fully automatic.
I'd love both a limit on the number of ships AND ability to influence what they build. So if they want a freighter I get a window where I can say Yes you can build it or No you cannot. Might be too much work, but I could tailor the civilians to do what is most needed instead of doing their own thing.That would be giving the player too much control, and the popup spam would quickly become intolerable. Civvies are supposed to act independently, for good and ill.
Why not just have settings similar to other aspects of the game? Allow us to set a cap on the number of civilian companies and/or ships (or history length or whatever other pertinent parameter there is). That gives a little more flexibility that the either/or choice we now have.
I missed that somehow. Sorry. As someone who has broken out the nukes for lesser crimes, the Sol system would burn if the civvies touched my preciousits only a war crime after you make the war lawsbodily fluidsstockpile.
I missed that somehow. Sorry. As someone who has broken out the nukes for lesser crimes, the Sol system would burn if the civvies touched my preciousYou can disable civilian harvesters during game setup and CMCs can be deleted when you catch them.we were talking about civilians using up minerals from your stockpile, not mining things in the solar sistem.
Question to those reporting too many civilians: Are all of those ships working or do you have groups sitting idle? If it is the former, I would way WAI, but if it is the latter then limiting construction when ships are idle would solve the problem.
Now,civilians eating minerals is dangerous, they could end up burning your stock when you are not looking, and then when you need your galicite, all of it is engines for freighters about to blow up, and your duranium is just now fancy spoons. If we want that to be a thing, we can always just not buy the minerals from civilian colonies. Fuel .ight be a diferent story if they get it from their own harvesters, or we can somehow limit it so they dont grab it all. Certainly would make everyone rush for fuel efficient engines before anything else.
You can disable civilian harvesters during game setup and CMCs can be deleted when you catch them.we were talking about civilians using up minerals from your stockpile, not mining things in the solar sistem.
Question to those reporting too many civilians: Are all of those ships working or do you have groups sitting idle? If it is the former, I would way WAI, but if it is the latter then limiting construction when ships are idle would solve the problem.
Perhaps a percentage setting in race setup could indicate how keen civilians are to go into the space business. That way we could each find our own balance for the civs, it might be good if it could be adjusted during game with SM too. Then Steve doesnt need to get involved in getting it 'just right' to suit everyone, which of course isnt possible anyway.That seems micro-managy. Demand limiting has the advantage of being fully automatic and allowing the civs to grow to however many are actually needed.
If when playing aliens, the setting was chosen at random, it might be a nice addition, although its not hard to roll a die and set it ourselves.
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Another possibile thought, license the civ ships. If you dont grant an extra license they have to scrap one to build one.
