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Posted by: Jorgen_CAB
« on: July 21, 2020, 10:02:31 AM »

I think there is a perfectly valid reason why commercial designs are limited to a size 1 sensor module. In c# also size 1 module are far more effective than they were in VB6 as well.

I really don't think a commercial diplomacy ship need better sensors. They are not suppose to spy on the enemy anyway.

I generally make my diplomacy ship military with better passives and even ELINT modules. As long as they have a commercial drive they should not pose much of a threat to the NPR anyway. As far as I know it is the drive that impact the enemy reaction and not whether the ship in question is military from a maintenance perspective or not.

In other situations you can easily have a commercial station with a simple maintenance module and a military sensor station together to have a long lasting sensor outpost in deep space.
Posted by: Rich.h
« on: July 21, 2020, 09:29:20 AM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on July 21, 2020, 04:41:59 AM
Quote from: Rich.h on July 21, 2020, 03:21:07 AM
Is there not already a size 1 commercial sensor? I'm a little confused how this cannot already be achieved using the component designs to fit the specs you mentioned

it's only limited to sensor 1 and u still need both.

You could AWACS, Stations (no DTS on rocks or buoys), Diplomatic Ships with better and Safer Range.

I think the whole point of the size 1 sensors was so that it acted as a game mechanic to limit commerical sensor ranges. Otherwise a combination passive sensor simply loops around that limitation. This way at least we are forced to make strategic choices with regards to size of diplomatic ships and so on.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: July 21, 2020, 04:41:59 AM »

Quote from: Rich.h on July 21, 2020, 03:21:07 AM
Is there not already a size 1 commercial sensor? I'm a little confused how this cannot already be achieved using the component designs to fit the specs you mentioned

it's only limited to sensor 1 and u still need both.

You could AWACS, Stations (no DTS on rocks or buoys), Diplomatic Ships with better and Safer Range.
Posted by: Rich.h
« on: July 21, 2020, 03:21:07 AM »

Is there not already a size 1 commercial sensor? I'm a little confused how this cannot already be achieved using the component designs to fit the specs you mentioned
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: July 20, 2020, 11:34:22 PM »

Hi,

what about a new component that works similar to Engines for design.

The new component is called Passive Sensor it merges EM and TH sensors which will still have their research tree.

So you can design one passive sensor with both EM or TH,  one only and of course also decide the tech level.

Where is the novelty?

You can then have Military or Commercial sensor where commercial are larger and Military ones are smaller. Maybe commercial could also have a small penalty range to avoid exploits.

Thoughts?