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Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: December 22, 2020, 02:25:53 AM »

Thanks, everybody.

So it turns out that both numbers are a K. The Racial is given by the Tech and the Pro Capita by the Governor's ability in wealth. You can have everybody unemployed, or everybody employed, financial centres, whatever. It will simply don't change a thing.

This will make my job very easy as all I have to do is to take what I need only and make my own (based on real-world data) rules.

The most important factors here will be Racial tech and the Population.

I could have probably figured that myself but having the opportunity to cross data it made the concept super clear and easy to spot, so thanks again.
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: December 21, 2020, 10:06:06 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on December 21, 2020, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on December 21, 2020, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on December 21, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
Quote from: Cosinus on December 21, 2020, 06:21:32 AM
I'm at 119600 annual, 140 racial per capita, 182 per capita at Earth (1.5B people), 150 pc on Mars (200M). I also have colonies on Ganymede (53M), Europa (29M) and in 4 different systems (42M, 35M, 32M, 7M respectively) as well as 2 minor colonies (<1M)

This is 57 years into the game, but with 20% research.
How many Financial Centers on Earth? You have almost 30% more pc than the Racial Tech (which is the minimum you can have) when I did find a 2% to10% being the norm in most of my games and pretty much all the others I am seeing posted here.

Wealth generation governors aren't hard to get. That would account for the difference on Earth.

I'll have to test that because for instace my numbers posted at beginning alreasy have a 20% wealth gen bonus plus a sector gov with another 15%. They do not stack up entirely, but it's still a good number.

To have that much if it is on a governor bonus, I wonder how much that would be. Maybe the max 50%?

To be 30% per capita greater than the wealth generation tech, you just need a 30% bonus on your planetary governor.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: December 21, 2020, 07:11:03 PM »

Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on December 21, 2020, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on December 21, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
Quote from: Cosinus on December 21, 2020, 06:21:32 AM
I'm at 119600 annual, 140 racial per capita, 182 per capita at Earth (1.5B people), 150 pc on Mars (200M). I also have colonies on Ganymede (53M), Europa (29M) and in 4 different systems (42M, 35M, 32M, 7M respectively) as well as 2 minor colonies (<1M)

This is 57 years into the game, but with 20% research.

How many Financial Centers on Earth? You have almost 30% more pc than the Racial Tech (which is the minimum you can have) when I did find a 2% to10% being the norm in most of my games and pretty much all the others I am seeing posted here.

Wealth generation governors aren't hard to get. That would account for the difference on Earth.

I'll have to test that because for instace my numbers posted at beginning alreasy have a 20% wealth gen bonus plus a sector gov with another 15%. They do not stack up entirely, but it's still a good number.

To have that much if it is on a governor bonus, I wonder how much that would be. Maybe the max 50%?
Posted by: Rich.h
« on: December 21, 2020, 03:24:04 PM »

Annual Racial Wealth - 868.971
Racial Per Capita Income - 250
Population Per Capita Income - 288.75

234 Years in.
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: December 21, 2020, 03:08:04 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on December 21, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
Quote from: Cosinus on December 21, 2020, 06:21:32 AM
I'm at 119600 annual, 140 racial per capita, 182 per capita at Earth (1.5B people), 150 pc on Mars (200M). I also have colonies on Ganymede (53M), Europa (29M) and in 4 different systems (42M, 35M, 32M, 7M respectively) as well as 2 minor colonies (<1M)

This is 57 years into the game, but with 20% research.

How many Financial Centers on Earth? You have almost 30% more pc than the Racial Tech (which is the minimum you can have) when I did find a 2% to10% being the norm in most of my games and pretty much all the others I am seeing posted here.

Wealth generation governors aren't hard to get. That would account for the difference on Earth.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: December 21, 2020, 02:55:26 PM »

Quote from: Cosinus on December 21, 2020, 06:21:32 AM
I'm at 119600 annual, 140 racial per capita, 182 per capita at Earth (1.5B people), 150 pc on Mars (200M). I also have colonies on Ganymede (53M), Europa (29M) and in 4 different systems (42M, 35M, 32M, 7M respectively) as well as 2 minor colonies (<1M)

This is 57 years into the game, but with 20% research.

How many Financial Centers on Earth? You have almost 30% more pc than the Racial Tech (which is the minimum you can have) when I did find a 2% to10% being the norm in most of my games and pretty much all the others I am seeing posted here.
Posted by: Erik L
« on: December 21, 2020, 12:30:57 PM »

Annual Racial Wealth: 130508
Racial Per Capita Income: 160
Population Per Capita Income: 162

215 years in.
Posted by: Madzak
« on: December 21, 2020, 11:26:45 AM »

In my 150 years long campaign (with several populated colonies) I have the following values:

Annual Racial Wealth: 217,500
Racial per Capita Income: 200
Population per Capita Income:207.5

Posted by: Zap0
« on: December 21, 2020, 07:27:19 AM »

I have some numbers screenshot in this thread.

Looking through the empires of my game, the numbers don't look very special or surprising, always being racial per capita income modified by the administrator's wealth modifier and any other colonial modifiers (like unrest).
Posted by: Cosinus
« on: December 21, 2020, 06:21:32 AM »

I'm at 119600 annual, 140 racial per capita, 182 per capita at Earth (1.5B people), 150 pc on Mars (200M). I also have colonies on Ganymede (53M), Europa (29M) and in 4 different systems (42M, 35M, 32M, 7M respectively) as well as 2 minor colonies (<1M)

This is 57 years into the game, but with 20% research.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: December 21, 2020, 12:10:15 AM »

Quote from: db48x on December 20, 2020, 11:43:24 PM
You should probably ask a specific question, but in my game I have 119,489 Annual Racial Wealth, 140 Racial Per Capital Income, and 158.03 Population Per Capita Income at Earth. Mars has a PPCI of 180.6, Mercury has 188.13, etc. I have a number of other colonies, but Mars and Mercury deliberately have the best wealth-generating administrators. This is over a hundred years into the game, but I have expensive research.

I agree with you, at the moment I am looking for the variables as the K are known. So your info are already good because I can see already sone interesting things.

I know that wealth generation is also influenced by governors but to a certain extent the K values should somehow follow a fixed rule that influences variables. Same goes for Financial centers or trade.

However these I can find out myself by adding x amount in the DB to my current setup.

I am more after "organic" growth.
Posted by: db48x
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:43:24 PM »

You should probably ask a specific question, but in my game I have 119,489 Annual Racial Wealth, 140 Racial Per Capital Income, and 158.03 Population Per Capita Income at Earth. Mars has a PPCI of 180.6, Mercury has 188.13, etc. I have a number of other colonies, but Mars and Mercury deliberately have the best wealth-generating administrators. This is over a hundred years into the game, but I have expensive research.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:40:47 PM »

Quote from: RougeNPS on December 20, 2020, 11:29:27 PM
I assume you are trying to get generalized numbers for your simulator? Or are you trying to confirm if your numbers are being...odd.

Bit or both. While the political part can be easily worked out based on real world data the economic factor in Aurora follows its own rules making real world data useless if not deceiving.

I have multiple data based on my "playstyle" but will be interesting to know the different ones generated by different approaches.

Even 4 or 5 will be enough to see the "economic pattern" of the game and compared it with what I already have to either confirm or deny if I am on the right path or not.
Posted by: RougeNPS
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:29:27 PM »

I assume you are trying to get generalized numbers for your simulator? Or are you trying to confirm if your numbers are being...odd.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: December 20, 2020, 09:52:44 PM »

Hi all,

please see here:





Are you able to send me a reply (either screenshot or text) of the values in your campaign?

If you could also please add how many years it has been running for and if you have multiple populated colonies (optional).

Really really thanks.