It was a little confusing, as I had seen nowhere in here on how to get a v 4.26, and the only download info mentions 4.2.v4.26 (which still has the v4.25 number) and the data patch are both topics in the installation forum. I have added a note to the full download directing new players to the patches.
Quote from: "tanq_tonic"I seem to have developed a trading "black hole".
Every freighter that the lines have built makes their way to a smaller colony, and float there.
For example:
Mars has a export demand of 1151 Precious Metals.
Earth has a demand for 900 of the same.
Right now there are 10 freighters floating above Mars w/ Precious Metals, and the info screen says that the destination is Mars.
So they apparently drift there waiting for a demand (as opposed to surplus) to open up.
I also have a freighter drifting above mercury waiting to deliver spices, but interestingly, spices are neither produced or demanded there. Again, its "stuck".
The last freigher is drifting above Titan, again waiting to deliver metals to a colony that produces them.
What gives?
You could try the 'Clear Orders' button on the shipping lines window and see if that helps, although I am not sure if it empties the cargo holds or just forces the freighters to recalc their orders based on what they currently have in the hold.
I seem to have developed a trading "black hole".
Every freighter that the lines have built makes their way to a smaller colony, and float there.
For example:
Mars has a export demand of 1151 Precious Metals.
Earth has a demand for 900 of the same.
Right now there are 10 freighters floating above Mars w/ Precious Metals, and the info screen says that the destination is Mars.
So they apparently drift there waiting for a demand (as opposed to surplus) to open up.
I also have a freighter drifting above mercury waiting to deliver spices, but interestingly, spices are neither produced or demanded there. Again, its "stuck".
The last freigher is drifting above Titan, again waiting to deliver metals to a colony that produces them.
What gives?
This would be quite a lot of work as I would have to change the load/unload code for a lot of cargo types. As an alternative though I am considering the idea of a commercial jump drive. These would be much larger and cheaper-per-HS than military jump drives and have several downsides. A larger minimum size, a lower efficiency and a much longer sensor/fire control blackout - perhaps 30 mins or so. Also perhaps some type of 'drive flare' that would highlight a transit.
These restrictions would make them far less useful for militray applications. They could still be used in some type of tender vessel though that could allow very large military units to transit so instead of the drive flare, maybe a different weakness would be that only commercial-engined ships could travel through a jump point opened by a commercial jump drive. The more powerful military drives would create too much instability.
EDIT: I went ahead and added the Commercial Jump Drives - see the post in Mechanics
Steve
This would be quite a lot of work as I would have to change the load/unload code for a lot of cargo types. As an alternative though I am considering the idea of a commercial jump drive. These would be much larger and cheaper-per-HS than military jump drives and have several downsides. A larger minimum size, a lower efficiency and a much longer sensor/fire control blackout - perhaps 30 mins or so. Also perhaps some type of 'drive flare' that would highlight a transit.Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"Yes, multiples of 5 cargo holds are necessary for a lot of the larger items. I did a post that listed all of the various requirements for transport but I can't find it now. Anyone know its location?I'd like to take this opportunity to renew my request for being able to break down such installations into 1 hold's-worth. Most important would be mines, auto-mines, and factories, of course. At present, it's essentially impossible to colonize beyond the jump gate network (without building large numbers of engineers) - this breakdown would allow such colonization to take place while still maintaining the concept of "civilized core".
Quote from: "Paul M"The trouble is that I can't ship anything to the other planet except minearals, infrastructure and colonists. Seems you need at least 5 cargo holds in the ship to pick up anything else.Yes, multiples of 5 cargo holds are necessary for a lot of the larger items. I did a post that listed all of the various requirements for transport but I can't find it now. Anyone know its location?
Steve
There are some hold requirements listed in this thread - http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1617&start=0&hilit=cargo+holdQuote from: "Paul M"The trouble is that I can't ship anything to the other planet except minearals, infrastructure and colonists. Seems you need at least 5 cargo holds in the ship to pick up anything else.Yes, multiples of 5 cargo holds are necessary for a lot of the larger items. I did a post that listed all of the various requirements for transport but I can't find it now. Anyone know its location?
Steve
The trouble is that I can't ship anything to the other planet except minearals, infrastructure and colonists. Seems you need at least 5 cargo holds in the ship to pick up anything else.Yes, multiples of 5 cargo holds are necessary for a lot of the larger items. I did a post that listed all of the various requirements for transport but I can't find it now. Anyone know its location?
Does anyone know how to call up the Shipping Lines window??
??Or better yet, the ability to lease the ships for transporting facilities?Yes, that is a good idea and would reflect what happens in the real world. You would pay the lease fees and also lose out on tax revenue so it would be a real choice rather than an automatic decision.
Or better yet, the ability to lease the ships for transporting facilities?Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"Quote from: "Paul M"How do the companies decide which ship to build? I have single commercial yard set to build frieghters and have noticed the last set of companies have built freighters (2 each and I have 2 slips on that yard). I have also 3 companies in a death spiral as they are basically without capital to buy ships and and their share prices are down to 0.09 or so. Should not they fold or something? I would think that bankruptcy would make sense, no?See my previous post for details on build choices. I agree I do need to create some type of bankruptcy or insolvency situation.
At the moment I have 3 shipping firms and 1 colony firm. I just noticed that Val Thuhhl's trade window is showing a demand for things that my home world produces so hopefully they get moved over.
Steve
Might I suggest that they offer the ships up for sale to the player? I haven't seen this option since the new shipping lines were put in. Also, maybe some random factor that offers one or more ships to another shipping line for a reduced price, if that other shipping line has the capital and income?
