Posted by: ollobrains
« on: November 14, 2012, 07:06:31 PM »Suns no super jovians should be opened up for mining though
Posted by: Decimator
« on: November 08, 2012, 04:44:09 PM »I like the idea of mining brown dwarfs for sorium. They're just Super-Superjovians, after all!
Posted by: Falcon
« on: November 08, 2012, 11:51:09 AM »Or have some line of extremely efficient engines that don't require fuel, just some reaction mass. Their power would then be supplied by solar cells - think of it as an advanced ion engine. Sure they wouldn't be much use on a military vessel, but making your civilian vessels free from fuel consumption could be worth it.
Posted by: alex_brunius
« on: November 08, 2012, 07:36:43 AM »Dyson spheres, in it's original concept, weren't solid shells, but flexible arrangements of satellites.
Which we could do today if we find enough resources, we just have no way yet to use that energy.
Wouldn't it be more effective to just harness the radiating energy in this fashion and convert it into fuel, then trying to actually "mine" for fuel?
The basic principe is that if you can turn fuel into energy, you can do it the other way around aswell.
Posted by: hostergaard
« on: November 08, 2012, 07:03:09 AM »Could work as a late game technology where planets starts to dry up. Keep the game alive for longer, especially in smaller galaxies where there is not always a new system to exploit.
Posted by: blue emu
« on: May 30, 2012, 03:35:20 PM »The density of the Sun's Chromosphere is about half-a-millionth of one kg/cubic meter. For comparison, the Earth's atmosphere at sea-level is about 600,000 times denser. Mining the Sun's atmosphere would be a very slow and tedious process.
Posted by: wedgebert
« on: May 29, 2012, 08:10:24 PM »Get it close enough to a star and you might. That kind of temperature is sure to do untold things to your space dookie. A dookie plasma if you will.
It's the ultimate version of the burning paper bag of dog poo.
It's the ultimate version of the burning paper bag of dog poo.
Posted by: boggo2300
« on: May 29, 2012, 04:40:50 PM »The smell should distract you from the heat
In space, no-one can smell your umm dookie?
Matt
Posted by: wedgebert
« on: May 28, 2012, 10:20:14 PM »Schlock Mercenary has the "Buuthandi" I think they were called, essentially balloons "pressurized" by the solar wind, with structures "hanging" off the inside surface.
Also a bit off topic, but I don't see how a smeg going any speed is going to help you mine a star.
The smell should distract you from the heat
Posted by: Havear
« on: May 28, 2012, 08:34:00 PM »Schlock Mercenary has the "Buuthandi" I think they were called, essentially balloons "pressurized" by the solar wind, with structures "hanging" off the inside surface.
Also a bit off topic, but
Also a bit off topic, but
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... attach it to a smeg going fast enough...I don't see how a smeg going any speed is going to help you mine a star.
Posted by: HaliRyan
« on: May 28, 2012, 08:21:38 PM »"Dyson spheres, in it's original concept, weren't solid shells, but flexible arrangements of satellites.
Which we could do today if we find enough resources, we just have no way yet to use that energy.
Nuclear fusion happens mistly in the stars core, the suns surface, for example, is roughly 6k degrees hot, so if you can build a scoop long enough, say, 100m, and attach it to a smeg going fast enough to avoid being pulled in, or just ignore gravity like TN ships do, it should be reasonably possible to mine potential fuel from stars.
The problem is that stars don't have a definite 'surface' like that, their atmospheres just slowly diffuse. A 100km long scoop won't do you much good, let alone 100m.
There are theoretical ways to mine a main sequence star for mass, but they're megascale engineering projects.
Posted by: UnLimiTeD
« on: May 28, 2012, 04:10:54 PM »"Dyson spheres, in it's original concept, weren't solid shells, but flexible arrangements of satellites.
Which we could do today if we find enough resources, we just have no way yet to use that energy.
Nuclear fusion happens mistly in the stars core, the suns surface, for example, is roughly 6k degrees hot, so if you can build a scoop long enough, say, 100m, and attach it to a smeg going fast enough to avoid being pulled in, or just ignore gravity like TN ships do, it should be reasonably possible to mine potential fuel from stars.
Which we could do today if we find enough resources, we just have no way yet to use that energy.
Nuclear fusion happens mistly in the stars core, the suns surface, for example, is roughly 6k degrees hot, so if you can build a scoop long enough, say, 100m, and attach it to a smeg going fast enough to avoid being pulled in, or just ignore gravity like TN ships do, it should be reasonably possible to mine potential fuel from stars.
Posted by: Thiosk
« on: May 28, 2012, 02:28:00 PM »brown or maybe even black dwarves we might mine, because there won't be nuclear fusion going on. But by the time we get tech to mine stars in aurora, one might as well get dyson spheres too
Posted by: ollobrains
« on: May 28, 2012, 06:24:29 AM »a good point now u make it , still id like to see some roles for stars. Not sure what yet youre point about them being giant reactors could perhaps at some point include he3 type for energy power or something or maybe this whole suggestion and line of thought is a dead end.
Arent stars also big gravity wells
Arent stars also big gravity wells
Posted by: hikkiko
« on: May 28, 2012, 06:03:30 AM »I'm not sure but gas giants are just clusters of gas while stars have some reactions within them. And you have to deal with plasma and extreme temperature.
