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Posted by: papent
« on: June 05, 2014, 04:06:13 PM »

if you fancy reading while playing I recommend the star carrier series or playing another game I recommend star ruler
either way it synergise in a pleasing manner to me personally
Posted by: Erik L
« on: June 05, 2014, 03:50:53 PM »

So it really isn't something I'm doing wrong :(. This is a bit disappointing... But well, a good game is worth a bit of pain :) Thanks for the patience you have all had with me tonight :)

The biggest difference between Aurora and AAA titles (besides fancy graphics and a shallow storyline) is the overall complexity. As far as I know, no AAA title has anywhere near the complexity and choices available. And all that requires computing. :)
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 03:21:57 PM »

I tab out to surf the web, read a book, watch tv :)
So it really isn't something I'm doing wrong :(. This is a bit disappointing... But well, a good game is worth a bit of pain :) Thanks for the patience you have all had with me tonight :)
Posted by: Erik L
« on: June 05, 2014, 03:07:34 PM »

But then how do you play if turns take so long? I mean I have been sitting here for about an hour now waiting on "my turn"...

I tab out to surf the web, read a book, watch tv :)
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 03:06:29 PM »

You cannot always gauge an NPRs progress on your own. If you started with a conventional start, then it is entirely possible. Even with a TN start, the NPR may have had jump capability from day one.
But then how do you play if turns take so long? I mean I have been sitting here for about an hour now waiting on "my turn"...
Posted by: Erik L
« on: June 05, 2014, 02:56:03 PM »

But is that process already this far after 30 years of gameplay? I mean I haven't even got jump-capable ships yet... (I'm slow)

You cannot always gauge an NPRs progress on your own. If you started with a conventional start, then it is entirely possible. Even with a TN start, the NPR may have had jump capability from day one.
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 02:48:51 PM »

Don't forget that while you are exploring, so is the NPR. And they can find more NPRs or spoilers. And they can find more. And so on.

But is that process already this far after 30 years of gameplay? I mean I haven't even got jump-capable ships yet... (I'm slow)
Posted by: Erik L
« on: June 05, 2014, 02:32:51 PM »

Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I am only about 30 years into my campaign and started with 1 NPR so I don't expect there to be too many NPR's just yet, right? Is it normal that after 30 years turns take more than 30 minutes?

Don't forget that while you are exploring, so is the NPR. And they can find more NPRs or spoilers. And they can find more. And so on.
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 02:08:48 PM »

"turns" can take quite a long time late-game, especially if you've got NPR's on.  Especially if you're trying to do the 30-day increment.  Even if you don't have NPR's, once you start getting lots of civilian ships it can really start to slow down.

There's not much you can do about turns taking a long time, short of getting a tool which will let you alter the processor priority of a program.  If you get one of those, you can crank Aurora's priority up which will make it run quicker at the expensive of your other programs.  And it can really slow other programs down, for example iTunes will hang sometimes while Aurora's especially busy.

You can totally alt-tab, just don't expect your other programs to run quickly either.  Unless you turn down Aurora's priority.



Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I am only about 30 years into my campaign and started with 1 NPR so I don't expect there to be too many NPR's just yet, right? Is it normal that after 30 years turns take more than 30 minutes?
Posted by: Barkhorn
« on: June 05, 2014, 01:58:45 PM »

"turns" can take quite a long time late-game, especially if you've got NPR's on.  Especially if you're trying to do the 30-day increment.  Even if you don't have NPR's, once you start getting lots of civilian ships it can really start to slow down.

There's not much you can do about turns taking a long time, short of getting a tool which will let you alter the processor priority of a program.  If you get one of those, you can crank Aurora's priority up which will make it run quicker at the expensive of your other programs.  And it can really slow other programs down, for example iTunes will hang sometimes while Aurora's especially busy.

You can totally alt-tab, just don't expect your other programs to run quickly either.  Unless you turn down Aurora's priority.

Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 01:49:53 PM »

Ok. So my questions are now:
- How long can "turns" take?
- What to do when they take long?
- Can you alt-tab when it is working?
Posted by: Erik L
« on: June 05, 2014, 01:38:38 PM »

I stopped the Aurora process and het a loading problem message. Maybe that's what was holding it up or did that happen because I quit?

If it was in the middle of writing to the database when you shut it down, that could be corrupted data.
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 01:19:05 PM »

I stopped the Aurora process and het a loading problem message. Maybe that's what was holding it up or did that happen because I quit?

EDIT: After the restart it did about 3 days and now it is stuck again...
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 01:17:51 PM »

are you saying trying to switch windows of aurora while it is trying to process turns?
also aurora is HDD R/W speed intensive aswell
You mean to say you shouldn't alt-tab while playing aurora?
And I am playing on an SSD so the bottleneck there should be minimal.
Posted by: mrDLSable
« on: June 05, 2014, 01:16:56 PM »

Aurora is single-threaded, so when it is calculating things for NPRs, Civs and yourself, it freezes all of the forms/windows for it. Until it is ready for user input again, it is non-responsive.
But it's been stuck for about an hour now...