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Offline Garfunkel

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2020, 01:20:30 PM »
Yeah, I was going to go down that rabbit hole myself but since my main campaign is with 10 Earth powers plus a fluctuating number of alien powers, and with the limited support there currently is for complex OOBs, I decided not to go overboard. :-\

But one day I'll go down to fire teams and lance corporals in my ground OOB and up to Field Marshalls commanding Army Groups, and it shall be glorious!  8)
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2020, 02:30:20 PM »
But one day I'll go down to fire teams and lance corporals in my ground OOB and up to Field Marshalls commanding Army Groups, and it shall be glorious!  8)

I kinda wish we were allowed to customize officer rank ratios since at this level you are going to have problem with having enough of certain ranks.
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2020, 02:37:18 PM »
That is what sm is for, adding officers, you can just delete excess naval, admin, and scientists
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2020, 06:55:49 PM »
I kinda wish we were allowed to customize officer rank ratios since at this level you are going to have problem with having enough of certain ranks.

What do you mean you don't have 500 military academies?  :D
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2020, 07:22:48 PM »
I kinda wish we were allowed to customize officer rank ratios since at this level you are going to have problem with having enough of certain ranks.

What do you mean you don't have 500 military academies?  :D

You know if it weren't for the commandant system that would be a reasonable expectation.

Except the amount of time it takes the commander menu to open when you have a total 3000 officers across all branches
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2020, 07:57:26 AM »
Also the HQ is a static, because I lacked instant research points  ;D
A static HQ will cost slightly more (in research and cost) than an equivalent infantry HQ.
On a light vehicle it will cost about twice as much.
For small HQ's that's probably not a problem but if you want a 500,000 ton HQ as a container for your divisions that's the difference between an HQ and having access to heavy AA twice over.

Mechanically I would say that HQ's should always be built with avoid combat, but if you are RPing things you might not want that for front line HQ's.
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2020, 04:53:15 AM »
This is a light combattant. Imp Nuclear Technology, should be faster hopefully than most enemy ships of equivalent propulsion level, at worse as it is tasked to be with missile ships, they might have blown an engine or two before contact is made with the enemy.
Low range, guzzle fuel like there is no tomorrow, I know that and I'm ok with that.
Armor seems decent but necessary for the approach phase.
2 carronades, they can only fire alternatively given the reactor, I'm also ok with that.

What do you think? Is it bound to fail because Carronades are too niche? I don't have Spinal lasers, if that's the question!

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Zhukov class Gunboat      3 000 tons       83 Crew       318.4 BP       TCS 60    TH 224    EM 0
3734 km/s      Armour 5-18       Shields 0-0       HTK 21      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 12
Maint Life 3.28 Years     MSP 146    AFR 72%    IFR 1.0%    1YR 20    5YR 307    Max Repair 56.00 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required   

Improved Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP112.00 (2)    Power 224.0    Fuel Use 324.10%    Signature 112.00    Explosion 17%
Fuel Capacity 170 000 Litres    Range 3.1 billion km (9 days at full power)

20 cm C2 Plasma Carronade (2)    Range 40 000km     TS: 3 734 km/s     Power 10-2     RM 10 000 km    ROF 25       
Beam Fire Control R40-TS4000 (1)     Max Range: 40 000 km   TS: 4 000 km/s     75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Improved Pressurised Water Reactor R10 (1)     Total Power Output 10.2    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


PS: what is the meaning of "2" in 10-2 for the power usage of the carronade?
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2020, 06:37:42 AM »
~snip~

PS: what is the meaning of "2" in 10-2 for the power usage of the carronade?

 - I think that's your Capacitor tech... not 100% on that though, so don't quote me.
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2020, 07:14:20 AM »
yes it is, but how it is relevant here, as capacitor alters ROF in any case? Just for reference?
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2020, 07:16:53 AM »

2 carronades, they can only fire alternatively given the reactor, I'm also ok with that.



PS: what is the meaning of "2" in 10-2 for the power usage of the carronade?

As above, that is your capacitor, 10 is the total to power, hence it needs 25 seconds to recharge (2 power recharge each 5 seconds). Speaking of which, you could get away with a P4 reactor, anything more than that is wasted per 5 seconds. Maybe more armor or 2 P4 reactors for redundancy?
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2020, 08:34:32 AM »
P4? Power 4

I'm not sure I understand and I fear I'm discovering something major. Are you saying that my 10 power reactor only recharge 2 power per 5 sec increment ??
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2020, 08:43:59 AM »
P4? Power 4

I'm not sure I understand and I fear I'm discovering something major. Are you saying that my 10 power reactor only recharge 2 power per 5 sec increment ??

That is exactly what he is saying. The "10" part tells you how much power the each of those weapons need to fire. The "2" part is how much they draw apiece. So anything more than 4 Power output is effectively wasted. The "10" is useful to let you know which weapons have priority, as in C# weapons are charged in order of most power needed to fire to least power needed to fire.
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2020, 09:10:03 AM »
Every weapon that uses power has two values, 10-2, which show the amount of power the weapon needs to fire and the maximum amount of power it can draw from the reactors each 5 second tick.

Your carronades each need 10 power to fire, due to their tech level. Each carronade can draw up to 2 units of power power 5 second tick, due to their capacitor level. Your reactor creates 10 power per tick.

As it is right now, your weapons will draw a total of 4 power each Rich, leaving 6 to be wasted. Your weapons will be able to fire every 5 ticks which matches with the ROF 25 of the weapon which is it's Rate of Fire in seconds.

As dr125 pointed out, you could reduce the size of your reactor to output 4 energy and maintain the full fire rate for the weapons. This would increase the ship's speed due to a lower mass. Or, you could give it a second size 4 reactor for redundancy in case one gets knocked out.
 

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Re: VP+5 Basic designs [AAPA campaign)
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2020, 12:51:12 PM »
ok got it, the 2 is now very clear in the weapon specs. Thanks a lot!