Early Warships

[coco146 (OP)]

OK quick question regarding my jump ship, I have max squadron size 3, does that include th e jump ship itself?

[Hawkeye]

Correct. The jumpship can take two others along.

[coco146 (OP)]

Okay, then do I build enough ships for the entire fleet or do I jump them through two at a time?

[Erik L]

Okay, then do I build enough ships for the entire fleet or do I jump them through two at a time?

If you wish to do a combat transit, you need sufficient jump capacity for all of the ships. The order "Transit" will ferry the ships across to the max of the available capacity, then ferry the rest.

[coco146 (OP)]

Think might just stick to ferrying them for now.

[Charlie Beeler]

The only time you really need "squadron transit" is when the jump point is directly defended. 

[coco146 (OP)]

but doing a normal transit where the ships are ferried through wont mess up my task group right?

[Charlie Beeler]

but doing a normal transit where the ships are ferried through wont mess up my task group right?

Not sure what you mean by "mess up". 

A standard transit will have the TG showup on the JP. 

A squadron transit will have the TG showup at a random direction from the JP at roughly the distance jump engine is rated. 

With standard there is no limit to the TG's size, while squadron is limited to the JE rating.

The other difference has to do with "jump blindness".  Using standard transit the "blindness" effect can last up to 30 minutes, while squadron transit is only effected up to 30 seconds.  Jump Blindness means that active sensors are offline and nothing can be launched. 

[Charlie Beeler]

Well, I've got one now, just don't know how good it'll be.

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Kite class Escort Cruiser    10,000 tons     164 Crew     1441.5 BP      TCS 200  TH 630  EM 0
3150 km/s     Armour 7-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 20
Maint Life 5.95 Years     MSP 2360    AFR 200%    IFR 2.8%    1YR 114    5YR 1711    Max Repair 192 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Spare Berths 2   
Magazine 440   

126 EP Ion Drive, Heavy Military (5)    Power 126    Fuel Use 71.17%    Signature 126    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 900,000 Litres    Range 22.8 billion km   (83 days at full power)

Size 1 Missile Launcher (20)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC18-R1 (1)     Range 18.4m km    Resolution 1
SMM-2 "Mauler" (440)  Speed: 25,200 km/s   End: 1.6m    Range: 2.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 109/65/32

Active Search Sensor MR15-R1 (1)     GPS 192     Range 15.4m km    Resolution 1

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


There actually is a very serious problem with this ship, the sensor suite is way to myopic.  Most beginning players get tripped up here.  That resolution 1 setting means the detection range of a 1hs/50ton object (ship/station/missile/etc).  There is a sever range penalty to detect objects smaller that the resolution setting (sensor range * ((target hs / sensor resolution)^2).

Without EW range penalties your above MFC can only see a size 6 (or smaller) missile at roughly 662k km.  That means a sz6 missile traveling at 30k/kps is only about 22seconds from impact.  This means your launchers only get 1 shot at any inbound missiles. 

Your Active search sensor has a similar problem.  It will only detect a size 6 missile at roughly 1.7m km.

What all this means is that you can't use but a small fraction of the available range of your missile.

If I've reversed your sensor tech correctly your using AG Sensor strength 16 and EM Sensor strength 8, making your Active sensor 12hs and your MFC 4.75hs, or there abouts.  Frankly you need to prioritize research for the next 2 levels of both AG and EM sensor tech.  This would let you have a sz9 Active Sensor and sz3 MFC (both res 1) that can see sz6 missiles at roughly 3.8m km.  Against speed 30k/kps missiles you' d then have about salvo's from each launcher (assuming ROF 10).  (note MFC's are 1/3 the size of active sensors at the same resolution for the same range)

The single MFC for point defense is fine.  Until you advance the various supporting missile techs you should have the missile point defense set at 5v1.  this means your 10 launchers will engage a maximum of 2 missiles in the same salvo.

[coco146 (OP)]

I did notice that but I upped the range so I can now see them at about 2-2.5 million km