Refuel/Resupply orders without joining fleet

[Kaiser]

So guys, I have 2 fuel harvester on Uranus, neither of them has a refuelling system component. 15km from them I have a tanker with a refuelling system which I wish to refill.

1) Which order should I use to refill the tanker from the harvester?

2) None of the order I tried so far seems working, however I managed to use my tanker to refill other ships around the space (none of them have a refuelling system). The order was always "ship X refil from tanker Y" never the contrary.

3) A strange behaviour I have seen is that when I give the tanker the order "move to the location X" (the harvetser in this case) the tanker gets close up to 15km from the harvester, but never exactly the same location.

[Lightning]

So guys, I have 2 fuel harvester on Uranus, neither of them has a refuelling system component. 15km from them I have a tanker with a refuelling system which I wish to refill.

1) Which order should I use to refill the tanker from the harvester?

2) None of the order I tried so far seems working, however I managed to use my tanker to refill other ships around the space (none of them have a refuelling system). The order was always "ship X refil from tanker Y" never the contrary.

3) A strange behaviour I have seen is that when I give the tanker the order "move to the location X" (the harvetser in this case) the tanker gets close up to 15km from the harvester, but never exactly the same location.

Per the changes on refueling, the harvester needs to have a refueling system to refuel from it. Even if the destination ship has one. The refueling system allows the ship to refuel other ships, not refuel *from* other ships.

[Lightning]

Every time I've tried refueling from a tanker like that, I've had to change the speed of the tanker fleet to 0 for the order to show up.

That is most likely because you do not have Underway Replenishment researched. If you try to use the command on station without engine it should work even without Underway Replenishment.

I do have it researched, though I did design & build the tankers prior to that.

The fact that tanker was build before the tech was researched should not matter, there is no component to install on the ship.

underway replenishment requires the ships to be in the same fleet according to the change list

[Kaiser]

So guys, I have 2 fuel harvester on Uranus, neither of them has a refuelling system component. 15km from them I have a tanker with a refuelling system which I wish to refill.

1) Which order should I use to refill the tanker from the harvester?

2) None of the order I tried so far seems working, however I managed to use my tanker to refill other ships around the space (none of them have a refuelling system). The order was always "ship X refil from tanker Y" never the contrary.

3) A strange behaviour I have seen is that when I give the tanker the order "move to the location X" (the harvetser in this case) the tanker gets close up to 15km from the harvester, but never exactly the same location.

Per the changes on refueling, the harvester needs to have a refueling system to refuel from it. Even if the destination ship has one. The refueling system allows the ship to refuel other ships, not refuel *from* other ships.

So, basically I have to refit my harvester adding a refuelling component, thank you.

[Father Tim]

So guys, I have 2 fuel harvester on Uranus, neither of them has a refuelling system component. 15km from them I have a tanker with a refuelling system which I wish to refill.

3) A strange behaviour I have seen is that when I give the tanker the order "move to the location X" (the harvetser in this case) the tanker gets close up to 15km from the harvester, but never exactly the same location.

3)  Your Tanker has the higher Inititative, so it moves to the harvester, then the harvester moves away to follow Uranus.


(Or possibly the other way around, and the problem is the 'chase curve' calculated by the tanker doesn't meet the harvester because the harvester's plotted course is speed 1 km/s but its actual movement is dictated by the orbit of Uranus at a speed of 7 km/s.)

[bean]

This is one of very few areas where I think there has been a major step backwards since VB6.  It's at the point where I usually just SM in more fuel if I have a ship run out close to its destination (usually a survey ship with a miscalibrated automatic refuel order) because of how much of a hassle it is.  The best way I've found is to move the tanker to the ship, then have the ship use a "refuel from stationary tankers" order, which is obviously a lot more work than doing it entirely on the tanker's side.  Even a "Refuel Stationary Ships" order would be tremendously helpful. 

[Kaiser]

So guys, I have 2 fuel harvester on Uranus, neither of them has a refuelling system component. 15km from them I have a tanker with a refuelling system which I wish to refill.

3) A strange behaviour I have seen is that when I give the tanker the order "move to the location X" (the harvetser in this case) the tanker gets close up to 15km from the harvester, but never exactly the same location.

3)  Your Tanker has the higher Inititative, so it moves to the harvester, then the harvester moves away to follow Uranus.


(Or possibly the other way around, and the problem is the 'chase curve' calculated by the tanker doesn't meet the harvester because the harvester's plotted course is speed 1 km/s but its actual movement is dictated by the orbit of Uranus at a speed of 7 km/s.)

smeg, you are f......g right! I did not consider that the tanker is not following the harvester and that latter is stick to Uranus. Thank you.

[Father Tim]

You're welcome.